The equation is 4*x^2-2*y^2==9. Using implicit differentiation, I can find that the second derivative of y with respect to x is -9/y^3, which requires a substitution in the final step.
I am trying to duplicate this answer using Matlab's symbolic toolbox. I did find some support for the first derivative here, and was successful finding the first derivative.
clear all
syms x y f
f=4*x^2-2*y^2-9
sol1=-diff(f,x)/diff(f,y)
But I am unable to continue onward to find the second derivative with the final simplification (replacing 4*x^2-2*y^2 with 9).
Can someone show me how to do this in Matlab?
To my knowledge there is no direct way to obtain an implicit second derivative in Matlab. And working with implicit functions in Matlab can be fairly tricky. As a start, your variable y is implicitly a function of x s you should define it as such:
clear all
syms y(x) % defines both x and y
f = 4*x^2-2*y^2-9
Here y(x) is now what is called an arbitrary or abstract symbolic function, i.e., one with no explicit formula. Then take the derivative of f with respect to x:
s1 = diff(f,x)
This returns a function in terms of the implicit derivative of y(x) with respect to x, diff(y(x), x) (in this case diff(y) is shorthand). You can solve this function for diff(y) algebraically with subs and solve:
syms dydx % arbitrary variable
s2 = subs(s1,diff(y),dydx)
s3 = solve(s2,dydx)
This yields the first implicit derivative. You can then take another derivative of this expression to obtain the second implicit derivative as a function of the first:
s4 = diff(s3,x)
Finally, substitute the expression for the first implicit derivative into this and simplify to obtain the final form:
s5 = simplify(subs(s4,diff(y),s3))
This yields (2*(y(x)^2 - 2*x^2))/y(x)^3. And then you can eliminate x using the original expression for f with further substitution and solving:
syms x2
f2 = subs(f,x^2,x2)
x2 = solve(f2,x2)
s6 = subs(s5,x^2,x2)
Finally, you can turn this back into an explicit algebraic expression with a final substitution, if desired:
s7 = subs(s6,y,'y')
This yields your solution of -9/y^3.
This whole process can be written more concisely (but very unclearly) as:
clear all
syms y(x) dydx x2
f = 4*x^2-2*y^2-9;
s1 = solve(subs(diff(f,x),diff(y),dydx),dydx)
s2 = simplify(subs(subs(subs(diff(s1,x),diff(y),s1),x^2,solve(subs(f,x^2,x2),x2)),y,'y'))
There are many other ways to achieve the same result. See also these two tutorials: [1], [2].
It's been almost four years since I asked this question, and got brilliant help from horchler, but I've discovered another method using the chain rule.
syms x y
f=4*x^2-2*y^2-9
dydx=-diff(f,x)/diff(f,y)
d2ydx2=diff(dydx,x)+diff(dydx,y)*dydx
d2ydx2=simplifyFraction(d2ydx2,'Expand',true)
s1=solve(f,x)
subs(d2ydx2,x,s1(2))
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I have data like this:
y = [0.001
0.0042222222
0.0074444444
0.0106666667
0.0138888889
0.0171111111
0.0203333333
0.0235555556
0.0267777778
0.03]
and
x = [3.52E-06
9.72E-05
0.0002822918
0.0004929136
0.0006759156
0.0008199029
0.0009092797
0.0009458332
0.0009749509
0.0009892005]
and I want y to be a function of x with y = a(0.01 − b*n^−cx).
What is the best and easiest computational approach to find the best combination of the coefficients a, b and c that fit to the data?
Can I use Octave?
Your function
y = a(0.01 − b*n−cx)
is in quite a specific form with 4 unknowns. In order to estimate your parameters from your list of observations I would recommend that you simplify it
y = β1 + β2β3x
This becomes our objective function and we can use ordinary least squares to solve for a good set of betas.
In default Matlab you could use fminsearch to find these β parameters (lets call it our parameter vector, β), and then you can use simple algebra to get back to your a, b, c and n (assuming you know either b or n upfront). In Octave I'm sure you can find an equivalent function, I would start by looking in here: http://octave.sourceforge.net/optim/index.html.
We're going to call fminsearch, but we need to somehow pass in your observations (i.e. x and y) and we will do that using anonymous functions, so like example 2 from the docs:
beta = fminsearch(#(x,y) objfun(x,y,beta), beta0) %// beta0 are your initial guesses for beta, e.g. [0,0,0] or [1,1,1]. You need to pick these to be somewhat close to the correct values.
And we define our objective function like this:
function sse = objfun(x, y, beta)
f = beta(1) + beta(2).^(beta(3).*x);
err = sum((y-f).^2); %// this is the sum of square errors, often called SSE and it is what we are trying to minimise!
end
So putting it all together:
y= [0.001; 0.0042222222; 0.0074444444; 0.0106666667; 0.0138888889; 0.0171111111; 0.0203333333; 0.0235555556; 0.0267777778; 0.03];
x= [3.52E-06; 9.72E-05; 0.0002822918; 0.0004929136; 0.0006759156; 0.0008199029; 0.0009092797; 0.0009458332; 0.0009749509; 0.0009892005];
beta0 = [0,0,0];
beta = fminsearch(#(x,y) objfun(x,y,beta), beta0)
Now it's your job to solve for a, b and c in terms of beta(1), beta(2) and beta(3) which you can do on paper.
I have an expression with three variables x,y and v. I want to first integrate over v, and so I use int function in MATLAB.
The command that I use is the following:
g =int((1-fxyz)*pv, v, y,+inf)%
PS I haven't given you what the function fxyv is but it is very complicated and so int is taking so long and I am afraid after waiting it might not solve it.
I know one option for me is to integrate numerically using for example integrate, however I want to note that the second part of this problem requires me to integrate exp[g(x,y)] over x and y from 0 to infinity and from x to infinity respectively. So I can't take numerical values of x and y when I want to integrate over v I think or maybe not ?
Thanks
Since the question does not contain sufficient detail to attempt analytic integration, this answer focuses on numeric integration.
It is possible to solve these equations numerically. However, because of complex dependencies between the three integrals, it is not possible to simply use integral3. Instead, one has to define functions that compute parts of the expressions using a simple integral, and are themselves fed into other calls of integral. Whether this approach leads to useful results in terms of computation time and precision cannot be answered generally, but depends on the concrete choice of the functions f and p. Fiddling around with precision parameters to the different calls of integral may be necessary.
I assume that the functions f(x, y, v) and p(v) are defined in the form of Matlab functions:
function val = f(x, y, v)
val = ...
end
function val = p(v)
val = ...
end
Because of the way they are used later, they have to accept multiple values for v in parallel (as an array) and return as many function values (again as an array, of the same size). x and y can be assumed to always be scalars. A simple example implementation would be val = ones(size(v)) in both cases.
First, let's define a Matlab function g that implements the first equation:
function val = g(x, y)
val = integral(#gIntegrand, y, inf);
function val = gIntegrand(v)
% output must be of the same dimensions as parameter v
val = (1 - f(x, y, v)) .* p(v);
end
end
The nested function gIntegrand defines the object of integration, the outer performs the numeric integration that gives the value of g(x, y). Integration is over v, parameters x and y are shared between the outer and the nested function. gIntegrand is written in such a way that it deals with multiple values of v in the form of arrays, provided f and p do so already.
Next, we define the integrand of the outer integral in the second equation. To do so, we need to compute the inner integral, and therefore also have a function for the integrand of the inner integral:
function val = TIntegrandOuter(x)
val = nan(size(x));
for i = 1 : numel(x)
val(i) = integral(#TIntegrandInner, x(i), inf);
end
function val = TIntegrandInner(y)
val = nan(size(y));
for j = 1 : numel(y)
val(j) = exp(g(x(i), y(j)));
end
end
end
Because both function are meant to be fed as an argument into integral, they need to be able to deal with multiple values. In this case, this is implemented via an explicit for loop. TIntegrandInner computes exp(g(x, y)) for multiple values of y, but the fixed value of x that is current in the loop in TIntegrandOuter. This value x(i) play both the role of a parameter into g(x, y) and of an integration limit. Variables x and i are shared between the outer and the nested function.
Almost there! We have the integrand, only the outermost integration needs to be performed:
T = integral(#TIntegrandOuter, 0, inf);
This is a very convoluted implementation, which is not very elegant, and probably not very efficient. Again, whether results of this approach prove to be useful needs to be tested in practice. However, I don't see any other way to implement these numeric integrations in Matlab in a better way in general. For specific choices of f(x, y, v) and p(v), there might be possible improvements.
The following is a MATLAB problem.
Suppose I define an function f(x,y).
I want to calculate the partial derivative of f with respect to y, evaluated at a specific value of y, e.g., y=6. Finally, I want to integrate this new function (which is only a function of x) over a range of x.
As an example, this is what I have tried
syms x y;
f = #(x, y) x.*y.^2;
Df = subs(diff(f,y),y,2);
Int = integral(Df , 0 , 1),
but I get the following error.
Error using integral (line 82)
First input argument must be a function
handle.
Can anyone help me in writing this code?
To solve the problem, matlabFunction was required. The solution looks like this:
syms x y
f = #(x, y) x.*y.^2;
Df = matlabFunction(subs(diff(f,y),y,2));
Int = integral(Df , 0 , 1);
Keeping it all symbolic, using sym/int:
syms x y;
f = #(x, y) x.*y.^2;
Df = diff(f,y);
s = int(Df,x,0,1)
which returns y. You can substitute 2 in for y here or earlier as you did in your question. Not that this will give you an exact answer in this case with no floating-point error, as opposed to integral which calculated the integral numerically.
When Googling for functions in Matlab, make sure to pay attention what toolbox they are in and what classes (datatypes) they support for their arguments. In some cases there are overloaded versions with the same name, but in others, you may need to look around for a different method (or devise your own).
The problem in the link:
can be integrated analytically and the answer is 4, however I'm interested in integrating it numerically using Matlab, because it's similar in form to a problem that I can't integrate analytically. The difficulty in the numerical integration arises because the function in the two inner integrals is a function of x,y and z and z can't be factored out.
by no means, this is elegant. hope someone can make better use of matlab functions than me. i have tried the brute force way just to practice numerical integration. i have tried to avoid the pole in the inner integral at z=0 by exploiting the fact that it is also being multiplied by z. i get 3.9993. someone must get better solution by using something better than trapezoidal rule
function []=sofn
clear all
global x y z xx yy zz dx dy
dx=0.05;
x=0:dx:1;
dy=0.002;
dz=0.002;
y=0:dy:1;
z=0:dz:2;
xx=length(x);
yy=length(y);
zz=length(z);
s1=0;
for i=1:zz-1
s1=s1+0.5*dz*(z(i+1)*exp(inte1(z(i+1)))+z(i)*exp(inte1(z(i))));
end
s1
end
function s2=inte1(localz)
global y yy dy
if localz==0
s2=0;
else
s2=0;
for j=1:yy-1
s2=s2+0.5*dy*(inte2(y(j),localz)+inte2(y(j+1),localz));
end
end
end
function s3=inte2(localy,localz)
global x xx dx
s3=0;
for k=1:xx-1
s3=s3+0.5*dx*(2/(localy+localz));
end
end
Well, this is strange, because on the poster's similar previous question I claimed this can't be done, and now after having looked at Guddu's answer I realize its not that complicated. What I wrote before, that a numerical integration results in a number but not a function, is true – but beside the point: One can just define a function that evaluates the integral for every given parameter, and this way effectively one does have a function as a result of a numerical integration.
Anyways, here it goes:
function q = outer
f = #(z) (z .* exp(inner(z)));
q = quad(f, eps, 2);
end
function qs = inner(zs)
% compute \int_0^1 1 / (y + z) dy for given z
qs = nan(size(zs));
for i = 1 : numel(zs)
z = zs(i);
f = #(y) (1 ./ (y + z));
qs(i) = quad(f, 0 , 1);
end
end
I applied the simplification suggested by myself in a comment, eliminating x. The function inner calculates the value of the inner integral over y as a function of z. Then the function outer computes the outer integral over z. I avoid the pole at z = 0 by letting the integration run from eps instead of 0. The result is
4.00000013663955
inner has to be implemented using a for loop because a function given to quad needs to be able to return its value simultaneously for several argument values.
We have an equation similar to the Fredholm integral equation of second kind.
To solve this equation we have been given an iterative solution that is guaranteed to converge for our specific equation. Now our only problem consists in implementing this iterative prodedure in MATLAB.
For now, the problematic part of our code looks like this:
function delta = delta(x,a,P,H,E,c,c0,w)
delt = #(x)delta_a(x,a,P,H,E,c0,w);
for i=1:500
delt = #(x)delt(x) - 1/E.*integral(#(xi)((c(1)-c(2)*delt(xi))*ms(xi,x,a,P,H,w)),0,a-0.001);
end
delta=delt;
end
delta_a is a function of x, and represent the initial value of the iteration. ms is a function of x and xi.
As you might see we want delt to depend on both x (before the integral) and xi (inside of the integral) in the iteration. Unfortunately this way of writing the code (with the function handle) does not give us a numerical value, as we wish. We can't either write delt as two different functions, one of x and one of xi, since xi is not defined (until integral defines it). So, how can we make sure that delt depends on xi inside of the integral, and still get a numerical value out of the iteration?
Do any of you have any suggestions to how we might solve this?
Using numerical integration
Explanation of the input parameters: x is a vector of numerical values, all the rest are constants. A problem with my code is that the input parameter x is not being used (I guess this means that x is being treated as a symbol).
It looks like you can do a nesting of anonymous functions in MATLAB:
f =
#(x)2*x
>> ff = #(x) f(f(x))
ff =
#(x)f(f(x))
>> ff(2)
ans =
8
>> f = ff;
>> f(2)
ans =
8
Also it is possible to rebind the pointers to the functions.
Thus, you can set up your iteration like
delta_old = #(x) delta_a(x)
for i=1:500
delta_new = #(x) delta_old(x) - integral(#(xi),delta_old(xi))
delta_old = delta_new
end
plus the inclusion of your parameters...
You may want to consider to solve a discretized version of your problem.
Let K be the matrix which discretizes your Fredholm kernel k(t,s), e.g.
K(i,j) = int_a^b K(x_i, s) l_j(s) ds
where l_j(s) is, for instance, the j-th lagrange interpolant associated to the interpolation nodes (x_i) = x_1,x_2,...,x_n.
Then, solving your Picard iterations is as simple as doing
phi_n+1 = f + K*phi_n
i.e.
for i = 1:N
phi = f + K*phi
end
where phi_n and f are the nodal values of phi and f on the (x_i).