If one kafka consumer application is reading message from kafka, another was not able to read and vice-versa.
We are running two independent applications, one will process message and another will read and put into a database.
Message which is been processing in first application is not available in the second application
Without seeing the code I can only guess ... :-)
I think that you have a topic with only one partition and both consumer applications are in the same consumer group. In this case only one consumer gets messages from the only one partition in the topic.
If you want both applications receiving messages from same topic, you need to put them into different consumer groups (group.id parameter for the consumer properties).
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I have a use case where I want to consume from a kafka topic and depending on some logic if I am not able to process the message right now, I want to enqueue the message back to the same topic from where it had been read
Something like this
Topic1 ---> Consumer ---> Can't process now
^
|Re-enqueues________|
Is it possible ?
Yes, this is possible.
However, be aware that depending on your retention settings the re-ingested message might exist in the topic multiple times. Also, the consumer will consume all messages as long as it is running which could lead to the case that it has consumed all valid messages but keeps on re-ingesting the other messages over and over again.
The typical pattern to deal with messages that should be re-ingested into your pipeline is to send them to a dedicated Kafka topic. Once your consumer is fixed to be able to process those messages you can then have your consumer read that dedicated topic just once.
=== Assume everything from consumer point of view ===
I was reading couple of Kafka articles and I saw that the number of partitions is coupled to number of micro-service instances.... Ex: If I say 1topic 1partition for my serviceA.. Producer pushes message to topicT1, partitionP1, and from consumerSide(ServiceA1) I can read from t1,p1. If I spin new pod(ServiceA2) to have highThroughput then second instance will never receive any message because Kafka/ZooKeeper assigns id to each Consumer and partition1 is already taken by serviceA1. So serviceA2++ stays idle... To avoid such a hassle Kafka recommends to add more partition, so that number of consumers can be increased/decreased based on need.
I was also able to test through commandLine and service2 never consumed any message. If I shut service1 then service2 was able to pick new message... So if I spin more pod then FailSafe/Availability increases but throughput is same always...
Is my assumption is correct. Am I missing anything. Now I feel like any standard messaging will have the same problem...How to extend message-oriented systems itself.
Every topic has a partition, by default it comes with only one partition if you don't define the partition count value. In your case, you have a consumer group that consists of two consumers. Every consumer read the log from the partition. In your case, first consumer read the log from the first partition(we have the only partition), and for second consumer there will be no partition to the consumer the data so it become idle. Once first consumer gets down then only the second consumer starts reading the data from the first partition from the last committed offset.
Please check below blogs and videos. It explains the topic, consumer, and consumer group in kafka.
https://www.javatpoint.com/apache-kafka-consumer-and-consumer-groups
http://cloudurable.com/blog/kafka-architecture-consumers/index.html
https://docs.confluent.io/platform/current/clients/consumer.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAdG16KaHLs
I hope this will give you idea about the consumer and consumer group.
A broad solution to this is to decouple consumption of a message (i.e. receiving a message from Kafka and perhaps deserializing it and validating that it conforms to the schema) and processing it (interpreting the message). If the consumption is simple enough, being limited to no more instances consuming than there are partitions need not constrain.
One way to accomplish this is to have a Kafka consumption service which sends an HTTP request (perhaps through a load balancer or whatever) to a processing service which has arbitrarily many members.
Note that depending on what you're using Kafka for, there may be a requirement that certain messages always be in the same partition as one another in order to ensure that they get handled in a deterministic order (since ordering across partitions is not guaranteed). A typical example of this would be if the messages are change events for a particular record. If you're accomplishing this via some hash of the message key (or a portion of the key if using a custom partitioner), then simply changing the number of partitions might not be viable (you would need to introduce some sort of migration or have the producers know which records have to be routed to the old partitions and only route to the new partitions if the record has never been seen before).
We just started replacing messaging with Kafka.
In a traditional MQ there will be a cluster and 1orMQ will be there inside.
So the MQ cluster/co-ordinator service will deliver the message to clients.
Now there can be 10 services/clients which can consume message from single MQ.
So if there are 10 messages in MQ then each service/consumer/client can read/process 1 message
Now this case is not possible in Kafka which I understood now as per design
To achieve similar functionality in Kafka I have add equal or more number of partition as client/consumer/pods.
As Kafka has a topic based pub-sub architecture how can I handle One-to-One and Group Messaging part of web application using Kafka?
I am using SpringBoot+Angular stack and Docker Kafka server.
I'll write another answer here.
Based on my experience with the chatting service. You only need one topic for all the messages. Using a well designed Message body.
public class Message {
private String from; // user id
private String to; // user id or group id
}
Then you can create like 100 partitions for this topic and create two consumers to consume them (50 partitions for one consumer in the beginning).
Then if your system reaches the bottleneck, you can easier scale X more consumers to handle the load.
How to do distribute the messages in the consumer. I used to send the messages to the Mobile app, so all the app has a long-existing connection to the server, and the server sends the messages to the app by that channel. For group chat, I create a Redis cache to store all the active users in the group, so I can easier get the users who belong to this group, send them the messages.
And another thing, Kafka stateless, means Kafka doesn't de-coupled from the business logic, only acts as a message system, transfers the messages. If you connect your business logic to Kafka, like create a topic "One-to-One" and delete some after they finished, Kafka will be very messy.
By One-to-One, I suppose you mean one producer and one consumer i.e. using at as a queue.
This is certainly possible with Kafka. You can have one consumer subscribe to a topic and and restrict others by not giving them authorization . See Authorization in Kafka
Note that once a message is consumed, it is not deleted, rather it is committed so that the same consumer will not consume it again.
By Group Messaging, I suppose you mean one producer > multiple consumers or
multiple-producer > multiple-consumers
This is also possible, a producer can produce messages to a topic and multiple consumers can consume them.
If all the consumers have the same group id, then each consumer in the group gets only a subset of messages.
If they have different group ids then each consumer will get all messages.
Multiple producers also can produce to the same topic.
A consumer can also subscribe to multiple topics.
Ok, It's a very complicated question, I try to type some simple basic information.
Kafka topics are divided into a number of partitions. Partitions allow you to parallelize a topic by splitting the data in a particular topic across multiple brokers — each partition can be placed on a separate machine to allow for multiple consumers to read from a topic in parallel.
So if you are using partitions, means you have multiple consumers to consume some in parallel.
consumer groups for a given topic — each consumer within the group reads from a unique partition and the group as a whole consumes all messages from the entire topic.
Basically, you can have only one group, then the message will not be processed twice in the same consumer group, and this is how Kafka delivers exactly once.
If you need two consumer groups, you need to think about why you need two? Are the consumers in two groups handling the different logic?
There is more, please check the official document, or you can answer a smaller question.
What is Consumer Group in kafka? Please explain with a use case.
I'll try to explain it by describing the problem it solves.
So lets say you have a topic of messages that you want to consume, so you write a consumer. Each time you consume a message the offset will get updated so that your application knows that it's consumed and that it can consume the next one.
You realize that your consumer application can't handle all the incoming messages so you need to scale it out. Those two instances of your application don't want to consume messages that the other instance has consumed so they kinda want to share offsets, so they need to be in the same consumer group.
If you are writing a totally new application which also consumes from that same topic but needs to do so independently, it needs to be in its own consumer group so that it has it's own offsets
Is it possible to have multiple copies of an application listen to the same Kafka group/topic so that only one is reading it at a time, but the other ones will start working if the main one crashes/stops reading?
I need to make an application highly available but can't tolerate doubling the traffic to the data store on the other end of the application by having multiple copies actively running.
FYI - Technically I'm using MapR streams but it adheres to the Kafka API and functionality, in case anyone knows a MapR stream-specific feature that helps the situation.
It is possible. If multi consumers are in same consumer group, when the group subscribes a topic, kafka will do a partition assignment work for your consumers: one partition could only be consumed by only one consumer in a same group.
So you could set your topic to have only one partition, then only one consumer to consume message, others will be idle. Once the consumer is shutdown, it will trigger the group rebalance operation : kafka will do the partition assignment again. And Then in your case , a new consumer will go ahead this work. It will process message from the last committed offset which commited by old consumer.
And if your case supports parallel processing, you could make many process(app) doing same work and set the topic to multi partitions. They will be assigned to consume different partitions and process different messages. So it will speed up your process and also can tolerant the fail over. As above said, if some consumers is failed, kafka will take care it for you, it will assign their paritition to other working consumer. So everything will be ok.