I just read that C99 has double_t which should be at least as wide as double. Does this imply that it gives more precision digits after the decimal place? More than the usual 15 digits for double?.
Secondly, how to use it: Is only including
#include <float.h>
enough? I read that one has to set the FLT_EVAL_METHOD to 2 for long double. How to do this? As I work with numerical methods, I would like maximum precision without using an arbitrary precision library.
Thanks a lot...
No. double_t is at least as wide as double; i.e., it might be the same as double. Footnote 190 in the C99 standard makes the intent clear:
The types float_t and double_t are
intended to be the implementation’s
most efficient types at least as wide
as float and double, respectively.
As Michael Burr noted, you can't set FLT_EVAL_METHOD.
If you want the widest floating-point type on any system available using only C99, use long double. Just be aware that on some platforms it will be the same as double (and could even be the same as float).
Also, if you "work with numerical methods", you should be aware that for many (most even) numerical methods, the approximation error of the method is vastly larger than the rounding error of double precision, so there's often no benefit to using wider types. Exceptions exist, of course. What type of numerical methods are you working on, specifically?
Edit: seriously, either (a) just use long double and call it a day or (b) take a few weeks to learn about how floating-point is actually implemented on the platforms that you're targeting, and what the actual accuracy requirements are for the algorithms that you're implementing.
Note that you don't get to set FLT_EVAL_METHOD - it is set by the compiler's headers to let you determine how the library does certain things with floating point.
If your code is very sensitive to exactly how floating point operations are performed, you can use the value of that macro to conditionally compile code to handle those differences that might be important to you.
So for example, in general you know that double_t will be at least a double in all cases. If you want your code to do something different if double_t is a long double then your code can test if FLT_EVAL_METHOD == 2 and act accordingly.
Note that if FLT_EVAL_METHOD is something other than 0, 1, or 2 you'll need to look at the compiler's documentation to know exactly what type double_t is.
double_t may be defined by typedef double double_t; — of course, if you plan to rely on implementation specifics, you need to look at your own implementation.
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Learning about the difference between Floats and Doubles in Swift. I can't think of any reasons to use Float. I know there are, and I know I am just not experienced enough to understand them.
So my question is why would you use float in Swift?
why would you use float in Swift
Left to your own devices, you likely never would. But there are situations where you have to. For example, the value of a UISlider is a Float. So when you retrieve that number, you are working with a Float. It’s not up to you.
And so with all the other numerical types. Swift includes a numerical type corresponding to every numerical type that you might possibly encounter as you interface with Cocoa and the outside world.
Float is a typealias for Float32. Float32 and Float16 are incredibly useful for GPU programming with Metal. They both will feel as archaic someday on the GPU as they do on the CPU, but that day is years off.
https://developer.apple.com/metal/
Double
Represents a 64-bit floating-point number.
Has a precision of at least 15 decimal digits.
Float
Float represents a 32-bit floating-point number.
precision of Float can be as little as 6 decimal digits.
The appropriate floating-point type to use depends on the nature and range of values you need to work with in your code. In situations where either type would be appropriate, Double is preferred.
I am used to programming in Java, where the BigDecimal type is the best for storing financial values, since there are manners to specify rounding rules over the calculations.
In the latest swift version (2.1 at the time this post is written), which native type better supports correct calculations and rounding for financial values? Is there any equivalent to java's BigDecimal? Or anything similar?
You can use NSDecimal or NSDecimalNumber for arbitrary precision numbers.
See more on NSDecimalNumbers's reference page.
If you are concerned about storing for example $1.23 in a float or double, and the potential inaccuracies you will get from floating point precision errors, that is if you actually want to stick to integer amounts of cents or pence (or whatever else). Then use an integer to store your value and use the pence/cent as your unit instead of pounds/dollars. You will then be 100% accurate when dealing in integer amounts of pence/cents, and it's easier than using a class like NSDecimalNumber. The display of that value is then purely a presentation issue.
If however you need to deal with fractions of a pence/cent, then NSDecimalNumber is probably what you want.
I recommend looking into how classes like this actually work, and how floating point numbers work too, because having an understanding of this will help you to see why precision errors arise and just what the precision limits are of a class like NSDecimalNumber, why it's better for storing decimal numbers, why floats are good at storing numbers like 17/262144 (i.e. where the denominator is a power of two) but can't store 1/100, etc.
I need to use big number for precision in my application, float or double are not enough.
I also have int and float numbers, and I have to do operations with all of them.
I think that NSDecimalNumber is good for the precision I need, but I would like to do operations with other kind of numbers and it is complex formula. So I doesn't look appropriate to use this class in order to do complex formulas (too complicated to use the functions decimalWith... or decimalBy...) when you have lots of things.
Does anyone know what to use in order to manipulate big numbers easily, and do operations on them with different types (float, decimal, int)?
Thank you.
NSDecimalNumbers are simply wrappers around NSDecimal structs, which have a bunch of useful functions for manipulation without requiring the allocation of new objects.
I've used them a bit, and have come up with some other useful additions to those built-in: https://github.com/davedelong/DDMathParser/blob/master/DDMathParser/_DDDecimalFunctions.m
I would recommend using NSDecimals unless you can come up with a compelling reason not to.
Thanks guys!
I finally used the double type that is enough for me. I was confused because I was using NSLog with %f to print my number and it wasn't what I wanted. I used %e instead to check the number in scientific notation was the right one, and it is. So I just do all my calculations using double number and it is working.
I'm very new to Ada and was trying to see if it offers double precision type. I see that we have float and
Put( Integer'Image( Float'digits ) );
on my machine gives a value of 6, which is not enough for numerical computations.
Does Ada has double and long double types as in C?
Thanks a lot...
It is a wee bit more complicated than that.
The only predefined floating-point type that compilers have to support is Float. Compilers may optionally support Short_Float and Long_Float. You should be able to look in appendex F of your compiler documentation to see what it supports.
In practice, your compiler almost certianly defines Float as a 32-bit IEEE float, and Long_Float as a 64-bit. Note that C pretty much works this way too with its float and double. C doesn't actually define the size of those.
If you absolutely must have a certian precision (eg: you are sharing the data with something external that must use IEEE 64-bit), then you should probably define your own float type with exactly that precision. That would ensure your code is either portable to any platform or compiler you move it to, or that it will produce a compiler error so you can fix the issue.
You can create any size Float you like. For a long it would be:
type My_Long_Float is digits 11;
Wiki Books is a good reference for things like this.
I tried to assign a very small number to a double value, like so:
double verySmall = 0.000000001;
9 fractional digits. For some reason, when I multiplicate this value by 10, I get something like 0.000000007. I slighly remember there were problems writing big numbers like this in plain text into source code. Do I have to wrap it in some function or a directive in order to feed it correctly to the compiler? Or is it fine to type in such small numbers in text?
The problem is with floating point arithmetic not with writing literals in source code. It is not designed to be exact. The best way around is to not use the built in double - use integers only (if possible) with power of 10 coefficients, sum everything up and display the final useful figure after rounding.
Standard floating point numbers are not stored in a perfect format, they're stored in a format that's fairly compact and fairly easy to perform math on. They are imprecise at surprisingly small precision levels. But fast. More here.
If you're dealing with very small numbers, you'll want to see if Objective-C or Cocoa provides something analagous to the java.math.BigDecimal class in Java. This is precisely for dealing with numbers where precision is more important than speed. If there isn't one, you may need to port it (the source to BigDecimal is available and fairly straightforward).
EDIT: iKenndac points out the NSDecimalNumber class, which is the analogue for java.math.BigDecimal. No port required.
As usual, you need to read stuff like this in order to learn more about how floating-point numbers work on computers. You cannot expect to be able to store any random fraction with perfect results, just as you can't expect to store any random integer. There are bits at the bottom, and their numbers are limited.