Well thats all there is to it...is this possible? I understand that officially it's not supported but has anyone figured it out? I have some work to do where XP would be the preferred platform. I would expect that users of the actual device are not required to use Windows 7 so it stands to reason that this can be done. Any poitners in the right direction would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
brian
I work for a large mobile silicon vendor with many, many developers working on WP7. Our corporate standard is Windows XP, and I can promise you that a bunch of very bright people have spent a lot of time trying to get this to work.
Bottom line is that we've never succeeded reliably enough to make it usable as a working environment, so our IT department has rolled out Virtualized Windows 7 images to run on XP desktops.
If it's an option for you, Vista is alleged to work - I've never checked as we did not roll out Vista corporately.
Sorry not to have a more helpful answer.
P.S. Wanted to add that the final devices most likely will not support XP. At least today, the connectivity apps and the like require Vista or Windows 7, and I very much doubt that this will change.
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Are there any alternate ways to develop Metro/Windows 8 style apps without obtaining a Windows 8 developer license?
Our department wants to explore the development of corporate, strictly in house, applications for our upcoming Windows 8 deployment next year.
There is no ability to fetch a license offline (see http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/apps/hh974578.aspx and http://connect.microsoft.com/VisualStudio/feedback/details/762946/cannot-request-offline-developer-license-for-visual-studio-2012-windows-store-app).
Without an internet connection you can’t obtain the Windows 8 developer license from VS2012, and I can’t find any work around.
Does anybody have a work around to enable development of Windows 8 apps without requiring an internet connection?
It was quite frustrating for me that I will never be able to create win8 apps since my developer machine will always be off-line. So I have created a petition to Microsoft to provide a means to obtain a license off-line.
If you are reading this and also want to see a means of obtaining a Windows 8 developer license off-line, please drop your vote here:
http://visualstudio.uservoice.com/forums/121579-visual-studio/suggestions/3313641-provide-a-way-to-obtain-a-windows-8-developer-lice
There is a hot fix available for this.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2871280
Actually, you are required to renew this developer's licence every month, so it's not really a one time thing.
While you need an internet connection to initially obtain a licence, once you have done this, you can develop applications entirely offline. This is not an unusual model! Quite a lot of applications require a one-time registration initially.
I have developed an app on monotouch-5.2.5 evaluation version.
Now i want to deploy on Apple Store and to do it i have bought a full monotouch version (5.2.10) and i have installed all certificate and provisioning profile.
When try to build my app i have the following problem:
mtouch exited with code 99
i have this configuration:
monodevelop 2.8.6.5
mac os x version 10.6.7 (is an HACKINTOSH)
Do could it be a incompatibity problem beetween HACKINTOSH and MonoTouch?
...This it'll seem strange because i've develop on it without problems.
The Xamarin.Mac / Xamarin.Ios licencing does some kind of hash of the Mac hardware to give your machine a unique ID. This locks the MonoTouch licence to your machine.
I know previously when people have changed hard drives etc. it has broken the key, this is because they use the Hard drives serial number as part of the hash. They may also use hardware MAC addresses and other IDs.
I imagine something they use in a Genuine Mac is not available in your Hackintosh.
Xamarin states on their website they do not support Hackintosh. They claim it is too hard to ensure their compiler works properly in such a system, but they do not stop there. They also make it impossible to install a key on a Hackintosh or on a Mac running in a VM!
I can understand they wont provide support for issues happening in such an environment, but to force developers to buy a Mac is a bad move. Especially considering a lot of their customers choose Monotouch exactly because they are comfortable with Windows/.net already and are not eager to migrate 100% to Mac OS, it is pretty obvious many prefer to work in a VM or use their existing PC hardware.
I used the trial version in a VM without any issues whatsoever, so whatever technical issues they might be worried about seems irrelevent. So I think this is more a political issue than a technical one.
I can only hope they will change their policy, or that someone gets annoyed enough to crack their compiler so that we can all use it the way we prefer.
I have a Hackintosh, I just encountered the same problem, and I also can not login app store, because ethernet card not built-in, I modified the DSDT to complete built-in, it is OK.
It is obvious that you need to contact Xamarin Support because they know better whether this is the exact problem or not. but....
A Statement in Xamarin Page demonstrated that it is impossible to use MonoDevelop/MonoTouch on Hackintosh.
I have some misunderstands that I need to know:
1. What do you mean building? (Bundle/Deploy to device/Build on Simulator)
2. Did you tried deploying to device?
I googled this issue and there are many that had this error code, but their problem was MonoTouch Activation, I think you can reactivate MonoTouch to make sure. (if you want to build on device)
But I do not attribute this error code to Hackintosh, because one of my friends-who is working with Unity (Mono) on Hackintosh, can easily build on device.
Regards,
Peyman Mortazavi
I cant seem to find any answer to this, other than a series of forum posts asking the same question going unanswered.
Does AIR 2.0 run on XP embedded?
YES it works!
Received the box today, installed air runtime, installed app no issues. I guess it must be well set up image.
Yes and No. Some people have done it. Others say no. I think you will have to try it yourself. If stability is important maybe you should get different hardware or move away from an AIR based application.
I have a bat file that I am using to try and register Mobilink with the Mobile Device Center on Vista. (I am using version 11 of Mobilink)
Script:
mlasinst -k ./ -v ./
I have copied mlasinst as well as mlasdev.dll and mlasdesk.dll to the same folder and am running the above command to get the sychronization process to run.(I have tested the above script on Windows XP and it works). When I try to copy the same files to a Windows Vista machine, I run the script and restart the computer. I then follow the directions from Sybase's website namely I
"From the Windows Mobile Device Center window, click Mobile Device Settings and then click Change Content Settings.
Select MobiLink Clients and click Save to activate the provider.
To see a list of registered applications, click Change Content Settings, click MobiLink Clients, and then click Sync Settings. "
Everything works on Vista except for when I click on "Sync Settings" when I click on it I get an error saying that there are no settings to administer.
My question is how do you get Mobilink to work with Vista and its Mobile Device Center? I have read all of the documentation I can find but to no avail.
Juen 23rd Comment
For those following at home, as a result of this post, our QA Department was able to reproduce this problem with the Windows Mobile Device Center on Vista when using a Windows Mobile 6 device, and we're looking into it. Everything seems to work fine with a Windows Mobile 5 device, which we used for our initial testing.
June 19th Comment
I really wanted to leave a comment, since this isn't really an answer, but my repuation wasn't high enough to do so. Oh well, I'll post a poor answer and watch my reputation go down. It's the price I'm willing to pay. :)
Our QA group tests mlasinst with Windows Mobile Device Center, but you're obviously doing something different, or more likely your machine setup is slightly different. To get to the bottom of this, we'd likely need to look into what registry settings are changed as a result of mlasinst running, but before I spend too much time figuring out what's going on here (including figuring out what the proper questions to ask are), I should point out that I would recommend synchronizing using TCPIP or HTTP instead of using ActiveSync, if only to simplify the instalation process and to cut out an additional layer or communication between the ML Client and Server. I also see from a post that you made at news://forums.sybase.com/sybase.public.sqlanywhere.mobilink that you've been playing with synchronization using the .NET version of the dbmlsync API and synchronizing using TCPIP. I did respond to your posting on the newsgroup to explain what I believe is happening in your application.
Are you still interested in figuring out the issues with ActiveSync and WMDC, or are you happy with the solution you've implemented using the dbmlsync API and using TCPIP?
My question is in regards to developing code for the iPhone / iTouch.
What with Apple's transition to the Intel platform for their chip, it is obviously now possible to run their OS on a PC.
So, with that, and my inherently cheap nature, I was wondering if it was possible to bypass the purchase of a refurbished Mac by running the iPhone SDK on a Hackintosh?
As I am more of a hobbyist then a serious developer at present, I'd basically like to get my feet wet before fully committing to this endeavor. In the long term I know that it would be better to purchase a Mac...
Yes, it's totally possible. I developed my first app on a Dell running the iATKOS OSX patch.
Whether it's worth it or not really comes down to how difficult it is to get a hackintosh install (Kalyway / iATKOS) running on your PC. With some PCs it's trivial and everything works. For others it's a nightmare and your networking/audio/graphics will never work completely. If you need to run a patched kernel (e.g. you don't have an Intel Core 2 Duo chipset) things become really awkward.
Your best bet is to take a note of the hardware in your PC and do some research on the various OSX86 forums.
Assuming you get everything working the only future concern is software updates. iPhone SDKs generally require the very latest OSX update (e.g. 10.5.6), but installing updates on hackintoshes with patched kernels is a nightmare.
If you enjoy tinkering with this type of thing and are comfortable partitioning your HDD and playing with boot flags then I'd say go for it. If not, consider picking up a used Mac-Mini on eBay/craigslist or something. If you find out that iPhone development really isn't for you then you can resell it lose practically nothing.
Yes, you can, but save yourself some time and pain.
Pick up a Mac mini or an iMac.
It's possible. But you are restricted to the choice of hardware for the hackintosh. Even if you get it right, no one can guarantee everything will work (sound, lan, etc.). If you can run the OS, you can run xcode with the SDK. But I don't think you'll be 100% satisfied with the end result.
As I see it if you want to run os x it's better to invest in a mac mini than in hardware for a hackintosh. Asuming you'll be buying all the components for the hackintosh.
I was in this dilemma recently, and decided to go with a real Mac rather than a Hackintosh after hearing the stories of my friend (who is doing it specifically for iPhone development). He was able to get iPhone development working, but his hackintosh is always having one issue or another; the most recent one was a constant boot cycling, wherein the machine would immediately reboot after loading the OS.
Look on the bright side: Apple products are popular and easy to sell. If you get one and sell it before the next generation comes out you can get most of your money back - money that would have been spent anyways on a new hard drive (to quarantine your hackintosh, heh) or OSX (assuming you meant to get the software in at least a remotely legal fashion).
Yes, you can. I have. But is it worth it?
If you are doing it for fun it's worth it.
If you are doing it for a real, useable Mac it's not worth it.
Now you will have a billion guys come down on me for saying that because some guys have built some truly impressive rigs but they are missing the point of a Mac. Macs just work well and are a pleasure to use while PC's just get stuff done and you probably secretly hate it.
I did it just for fun but I ended up spending more on a Hackintosh than I would have if I just bought a Mac Mini. Of course my computer is 4x as fast but it's just not the same as a real Mac. On Mac's everything just works... it's really nice. But on my Hackintosh nothing works without direct intervention on my part... not very nice.
I always planned on using that computer for windows development anyway so it wasn't a waste but otherwise it would have been a HUGE waste.
You can do it. I have 3 hackintoshes that we develop on, but at the end of the day you will need a real mac to be an apple developer.
One problem I see with the Hackintosh approach is that if you get it working now, you are not guaranteed to have the same machine working when an update to Mac OS comes out in the future, and this could be especially important if the iPhone SDK and/or developer tools that you want to use are hosted only on the next generation of the system software.
In the long run, I think it'll be better to go with a cheap (and even a used) Mac of some kind, like a mini or a MacBook.
You can do it, I started learning iPhone/Objective-C/Cocoa development using a virtual machine and an image of OSX (it was a pain to setup though and I think I could only use OSX 10.5.2)
It's just not worth the hassle, in the end I just stumped up £365 or so for a second-hand 2007 model MacBook off eBay and it's been smooth sailing ever since.
On a $10 P4 2.4GHz, 1GB RAM, hackintosh works fine and xcode/iphone sdk works as well. Its a little slow, but stable, and a very viable option for someone looking to just test the water of iphone development, without committing the cash.
Yes you. right now I am learning iphone app development in a Hackintosh (iATKOS S3 version2).
See http://wiki.osx86project.org/ and http://insanelymac.com/ for any problem with installing hackintosh
Hackintoshes are a great value. You can spend anywhere from $400 to $4000 and get an extremely capable machine.
You want to go with a Gigabyte brand Z87 motherboard, Intel Core i CPUs, Nvidia graphics, and SSDs. Avoid budget hardware, it usually isn't compatible. Or you could go the Intel NUC route and get a NUC, a small PCIe SSD (32GB or 64GB should do the trick), and some laptop ram.
Do your research and you're good.
Current version of Visual Studio (2019) and Xamarin Forms will enable to develop IPhone apps by utilizing Xamarin Hot-Restart (Preview) feature without requiring a Mac.
In my case, I have an IPhone and would like to develop an IPhone app however I was being forced (until this day) to buy a Mac (or at least chosing the Hackintosh way) develop an IPhone App. Now I can write and debug my app directly on my IPhone (which is fair!).
Details here:
https://nicksnettravels.builttoroam.com/ios-dev-no-mac
If you have so little belief in yourself that you feel the need to save a couple of hundred dollars by hacking a pseudo-Mac together just don't bother trying in the first place.
Furthermore you will pretty certainly fail (or spend so much time trying to succeed you'll have wasted vastly more time getting things to work than you saved on cost). The two clinchers are
You have to run code on a iPhone or touch, because the emulator is not perfect and will mislead you without you even being aware of it - I have code that runs on the emulator but not as expected on hardware
Apple's key signing is hard enough to get working with the real thing, it took me a couple of hours and I'm not alone - there's a great many posts out there on development forums from people having difficulties managing it. Getting it working on a Hacked machine - well you may be lucky, but are you prepared to gamble?