I've cloned it but I didn't find any .exe file, Nor do i see it in programs list in Control Panel of windows. I'am a bit confused as to what cloning means. I know that there is direct download .exe file on vim.org website. Its for sure that I'am beginner for all these. Please help. Thanks for the help in advance.
reading the "installation" section found in the README.md of the vim repo, you can see the filenames containing the instructions that will help you with the installation, depending on your OS.
README_ami.txt Amiga
README_unix.txt Unix
README_dos.txt MS-DOS and MS-Windows
README_mac.txt Macintosh
README_haiku.txt Haiku
README_vms.txt VMS
So, for the full information I suggest you go to those files, or go to the vim website where there is also good information about the installation.
Anyway, I will briefly explain below the information that those files and the vim website say for most common operating systems
If you're on Unix:
git clone https://github.com/vim/vim.git
cd vim/src
make
If you're on Mac
The Macintosh binaries are not on the Vim ftp site. They are produced by a few Macintosh lovers. Often they lag behind a few versions.
MacVim has more a Mac look and feel, is developed actively and most people prefer this version. Most of MacVim was made by Björn Winckler.
MacVim can be downloaded here: link
Or if you prefer, here is the MacVim homepage.
If you're on Windows:
The next instructions were copied from here.
Option A: Using the self-installing .exe
Go to vim.org/download.php and click on self-installing executable (or just click here) and follow the prompts.
Watch out for:
When an existing installation is detected, you are offered to first remove
this. The uninstall program is then started while the install program waits
for it to complete. Sometimes the windows overlap each other, which can be
confusing. Be sure the complete the uninstalling before continuing the
installation. Watch the taskbar for uninstall windows.
When selecting a directory to install Vim, use the same place where other
versions are located. This makes it easier to find your _vimrc file. For
example "C:\Program Files\vim" or "D:\vim". A name ending in "vim" is
preferred.
After selecting the directory where to install Vim, clicking on "Next" will
start the installation.
Option B: Using .zip files
Go to the directory where you want to put the Vim files. Examples:
cd C:\
cd D:\editors
If you already have a "vim" directory, go to the directory in which it is
located. Check the $VIM setting to see where it points to:
set VIM
For example, if you have
C:\vim\vim82
do
cd C:\
Binary and runtime Vim archives are normally unpacked in the same location,
on top of each other.
Unpack the zip archives. This will create a new directory "vim\vim82",
in which all the distributed Vim files are placed. Since the directory
name includes the version number, it is unlikely that you overwrite
existing files.
Examples:
pkunzip -d gvim82.zip
unzip vim82w32.zip
You need to unpack the runtime archive and at least one of the binary
archives. When using more than one binary version, be careful not to
overwrite one version with the other, the names of the executables
"vim.exe" and "gvim.exe" are the same.
After you unpacked the files, you can still move the whole directory tree
to another location. That is where they will stay, the install program
won't move or copy the runtime files.
Change to the new directory:
cd vim\vim82
Run the "install.exe" program. It will ask you a number of questions about
how you would like to have your Vim setup. Among these are:
You can tell it to write a "_vimrc" file with your preferences in the
parent directory.
It can also install an "Edit with Vim" entry in the Windows Explorer
popup menu.
You can have it create batch files, so that you can run Vim from the
console or in a shell. You can select one of the directories in your
$PATH. If you skip this, you can add Vim to the search path manually:
The simplest is to add a line to your autoexec.bat. Examples:
set path=%path%;C:\vim\vim82
set path=%path%;D:\editors\vim\vim82
Create entries for Vim on the desktop and in the Start menu.
That's it!
Vim is open source software, and its source code, i.e. all the technical files that make up Vim is (nowadays) hosted at GitHub.
Cloning that repository means you'll download all of those files to your computer (and with Git as the underlying revision control system, you'll even get the full history of all changes ever done). As Vim supports a very big set of very diverse platforms (Windows, Linux, Mac, ...), the repository itself does not (and should not) contain pre-built binaries, nor a full installer that most users expect to run. So, unless you have the intention to actively contribute to Vim by submitting bug fixes or enhancements, you don't need to clone or do anything with GitHub. If you do want to get technical, src/INSTALLpc.txt contains the instructions for building Vim on Windows. This includes choosing a compiler, installing it and the required dependencies, configuring the build, building, and then finally copying the files to a permanent location on your PC, either manually or by building and then running an installer.
For plain passive consumption of Vim (which is rewarding in itself, but may even lead you to eventually also programming it), the Downloading Vim page on vim.org has all the information that you need, with links to the most popular installers right at the top.
a word on versions
For a casual user, using the latest stable version is recommended; this is 8.2 right now; gvim82.exe is a corresponding installer for Windows. This offers the best compromise between stability and latest features. In the case of Vim, expect a new release roughly every year.
You'll also find development builds (something like 8.2.0740); these usually function as well and have the very latest features under development, but often are less stable. I would use these only if you really need a leading-edge feature, or want to report a bug. You should then probably update very frequently, and from there it's only a small step to actually cloning the repository and building everything on your own!
I'm a beginner of emacs. when i try to config my emacs, i googled a lot of examples. most of them have a site-lisp directory.
My question is why not use my-lisp for self maded lisp files and use vendor-lisp for other people's site.
And what things should site-lisp direcotry contain.
my-lisp and vendor-lisp are perfectly fine directory names for organising your personal elisp configuration and libraries.
"site" means "this computer", and so the site-lisp directory is for elisp which should be available to all users of the computer.
Similarly to .emacs.d and site-lisp directory (follow for more details), I get the impression that you might be asking about having a site-lisp directory within your user-specific configuration, which would be contrary to this naming convention, and possibly a bit confusing.
If you take a look around, there's also python-site and ruby-site. They are used by other packages from the package management to install .el files in a directory where emacs finds them at load.
Is it possible to remove built-in Emacs packages like "tetris"? They can't be marked to be deleted in package list as of 24.1. It would be nice to have a minimal installation of Emacs - even though barely useful - by deleting some or all built-in packages. Is it possible to do somehow, and will this ability added in future?
Emacs should start and be useable even if the whole lisp directory is empty (note that we rarely/never test it, so I don't guarantee that it'll work, but at least in principle it should and if it doesn't you should report it with M-x report-emacs-bug). So feel free to remove any and all packages in there you don't find useful, in order to create a trimmed-down version of Emacs.
You could just remove the elc files of all of the packages you want.
For example, in the version of emacs located in the ubuntu repository the tetris package is located in:
/usr/share/emacs/23.3/lisp/play/tetris.elc
If you move or remove it, emacs will continue to work, but you won't be able to play tetris anymore.
You might want to inspect the package--builtins variable. That said - there is little sense in removing any packages installed via package.el since package.el extracts and loads automatically only a package's autoloads - therefore having many installed packages doesn't result in any significant overhead. I'm quite certain that removing built-in packages will never be a feature of package.el.
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Although several thousand Emacs Lisp libraries exist, GNU Emacs, until version 24.1 did not have an (internal) package manager.
I guess that most users would agree that it is currently rather inconvenient to find, install and especially keep up-to-date Emacs Lisp libraries.
Pages that make life a bit easier
For versions of Emacs older than 24.1:
Emacs Lisp List - Problem: I see dead people (links).
Emacswiki - Problem: May contain traces of nuts (malicious code).
Emacsmirror - The package repository I am working on. Problem: No package manager supports it natively yet.
Some package managers
It's not that nobody has tried yet. (Some of these did not exist when this question was asked.)
auto-install
borg.el - Assimilate Emacs packages using Git submodules.
el-get.el - Supports many sources.
elinstall.el
epackage aka DELPS - Debian packaging concepts applied to Emacs Lisp packages.
epkg.el - This is now just a tool for browsing the Emacsmirror.
install.el
install-elisp.el
jem-pkg.el
package.el - ELPA. Seems like it will be included in Emacs 24.
UPDATE -- package.el is included in GNU Emacs, starting with version 24.1
pases.el
pelm - Command line installer; using php.
plugin.el
straight.el - Recent and experimental, has not reached 1.0 release yet.
use-package.el
XEmacs package manager
package has been included in the Emacs trunk. epkg is not ready yet and also currently not available. At least install-elisp, plugin and use-package do not seem to be actively maintained anymore.
I have created a git repository containing all these package managers as submodules.
Some utilities that might be useful
Package managers could use these utilities and/or they could be used to maintain a mirror of packages.
date-calc.el - Date calculation and parsing routines.
ell.el - Browse the Emacs Lisp List.
elm.el, elx.el, xpkg.el - Used to maintain the Emacsmirror.
genauto.el - Helps generate autoloads for your elisp packages.
inversion.el - Require specific package versions.
loadhist.el, lib-requires.el, elisp-depend.el - Commands to list Emacs Lisp library dependencies.
project-root.el - Define a project root and take actions based upon it.
strptime.el - Partial implementation of POSIX date and time parsing.
wikirel.el - Visit relevant pages on the Emacs Wiki.
Discussions about the subject at hand
emacs-devel 20080801
comp.emacs 20021121
RationalElispPackaging
The question (finally)
So - I would like to know from you what you consider important/unimportant/supplementary etc. in a package manager for Emacs.
Some ideas
Many packages (the Emacsmirror provides that largest available collection of packages, but there is no explicit support in any package manager yet).
Only packages that have been tested.
Support for more than one package archive (so people can choose between many/tested packages).
Dependency calculated based on required features only.
Dependencies take particular versions into account.
Only use versions that have been released upstream.
Use versions from version control systems if available.
Packages are categorized.
Packages can be uninstalled and updated not only installed.
Support creating fork of upstream version of packages.
Support publishing these forks.
Support choosing a fork.
After installation packages are activated.
Generate autoload files.
Integration with Emacswiki (see wikirel.el).
Users can tag, comment etc. packages and share that information.
Only FSF-assigned/GPL/FOSS software or don't care about license.
Package manager should be integrated be distributed with Emacs.
Support for easily contacting author.
Lots of metadata.
Suggest alternatives before installing a particular package.
I am hoping for these kinds of answers
Pointers to more implementations, discussions etc.
Lengthy descriptions of a set of features that make up your ideal package manager.
Descriptions of one particular desired/undesired feature. Feel free to elaborate on my ideas from above.
Surprise me.
I'm still learning Emacs, so I haven't had a chance to look into package managers, but a great feature would be to inform the user that the package is available if they try to use it but it's not on their system. For example, I wanted to edit a PHP file on a server once, and I tried
M-x php-mode
and Emacs was all like
M-x php-mode [no match]
when it should have been like
php-mode available from ftp.gnu.org. install? (y/n)
and then it would have installed and loaded up php-mode for me. That would have made my day right there.
Automatic publishing from version control
I'd love to see a standard, central, and single Emacs package manager. Right now, I'd put my money on ELPA, but there is still a long way to go.
The biggest thing that would help an Emacs package manager would be to make it super trivial to publish packages. In my opinion, I'd like to see this happen in combination with a version control system like git on a central hosted platform like GitHub -- something that would make it easy for authors to publish their packages and would make it easy for others to contribute back.
Similar to how GitHub (used to) make it easy to publish RubyGems, I'd like to see something similar in an Emacs package manager. For example, tag your repository with "vX.Y.Z" and have your elisp goodness automatically available to all.
The added benefit of using a popular backend like GitHub is that you'd immediately get a lot of exposure which should help drive its success.
What I expect most is that everything useful is on it, and works well. This requires you (or a team of maintainers) to aggressively pursue packaging everything for it, and doing whatever that involves — emailing every author of a useful package, and so on.
For instance, the reason Debian (and its derivatives: Ubuntu etc.) is so good is that you can happily use your system without ever having to install something outside the repositories, and that everything on it is thoroughly tested. The actual features of the package manager are important, but secondary to the managed packages themselves.
Easy configuration synchronization: I, like many people, use Emacs on many different computers and servers, some of them my own and some not. It would be amazing if the package manager had some sort of file which I could transfer from one computer to another; then, on the latter computer, the package manager would bring my Emacs into the state I like it in -- all the packages installed and configurations set. Combined with the ability to be able to easily install either site-wide (if one has root permissions) or as a single user, I could synchronize all of Emacsen everywhere.
I'm nearly positive that the best solution involves submitting more packages to ELPA and adding multi-source support to package.el. The Emacs maintainers have said that they would consider including package.el in version 24 as long as it pointed to an FSF repository by default.
Of course, submission also needs to be an automated process too; the current method of mailing the ELPA maintainer only works on a small scale.
No matter how this is done, the most important thing in my opinion is that it should be trivial to submit packages to the repository. At the same time, we do not want those packages to be instantly available, to guard against malicious code(and due to licensing issues). Unless there is a "trust" system in place, based on crypto signatures.
Also useful:
"metapackages", to install several packages at once.
In the same way, we should be able to install a set of elisp files, for maintainability
"Broken" packages should not be allowed to disrupt Emacs startup. This is easy and I have it implemented in my own .emacs
Ability to install files other than scripts. This is often overlooked, but very useful. You'd be able to, for instance, ship images, for icons, toolbars, etc.
Versioning:package X requires package Y > 1.0
Testing: perform basic sanity checks, testing for conflicts (keybindings, function redefinitions, functions that are expected to be present but aren't, etc).
BUG TRACKING: I can't stress the importance of this enough. Having a centralized place to report package bugs (and being able to track them) is extremely important to assure the quality of the packages.
Some sort of compressed archive seems to be best to do some of the above.
So far, a much improved ELPA seems the way to go.
I once spent some time writing a small package manager for Emacs.
http://gmarceau.qc.ca/plugin.el
I wrote:
Plugin is my attempt at creating a
package manager for Emacs. Plugin
will automatically downloads Emacs
extensions, unpacks them in a
directory, adds that directory to the
load-path, generates auto-load
annotations, and modify your dot-emacs
file. The auto-load annotations are a
little-known feature of Emacs. Once
they are generated, Emacs extensions
load quickly and incrementally, which
is really nice if you have as many
extensions installed as I do.
You will need two library files to get it to run, loop-constructs.el and record.el
I think the hackers for the iPhone got quite close to what I want, as does Ubuntu's "apt".
I like to be able to:
add
remove (package only)
remove user settings
view documentation
upgrade ( after reading the change log)
add new archive ( aka add repository )
see dependencies
see version
search for name, keyword
browse by (date added, date modified, name)
save all installed packages & settings
load set of packages & settings
I would like a main set of things that all work nicely and are the recommended way of doing whatever. Then a global set where everything working gets in. Then the ability for anyone to host their own archive.
It would be nice if this was all tied into git/svn/whatever so that you could install old versions. Make your own patches by forking off etc etc etc....
Besides the mentioned above, i expect something like debian, and other repositories - set of the stable, experemental, untested packages. Ability to add my own repositories - i use lot of the packages directly from VCS, so it could be useful to create my own packages
I think that the package manager should take a lot of inspiration from Rubygems. I also think that it should have a site like Gemcutter.
A central repository could also be nice (like Emacsmirror). This however may not be necessary if a site like Gemcutter exists that collects all packages.
I think these things are important for this to work.
Central location of some kind that collects all packages
Easy to add packages
Easy to maintain packages
Easy to contribute to other packages
Easy to install, uninstall and update packages
Possibility to add package dependencies
Common structure for all packages
So a package manager like Rubygems with a site like Gemcutter and a central repository like Emacsmirror (preferably on Github because of it's social coding) would do Emacs really good.
All in all I think that much inspiration should be taken from Rails and how Rails handles Gems.
I don't know how fresh this question is...
but the model I would like to see is CPAN. I also don't know Rubygems but it sounds similar to CPAN.
CPAN is a perl archive + library management system. When I need to write a perl program that requires... FTP or SOAP or JSON or XML or ZIP, or...etc, I can run the CPAN package manager, select the requisite package for download, view and verify the dependencies, then install everything. CPAN is mirrored .."everywhere".
CPAN works wonderfully for my purposes, and something similar for emacs would be nice to have. It also supports building C/C++ code on demand.
That's what I would like to see in emacs.
Some further comment on requirements.
explicit download of packages. No auto install. No invisible downloads. I want to ask for new libraries or new function.
I should be able to list the name/version/timestamp of installed packages.
If my friend gives me his list, I should be able to diff his emacs state against mine.
check-for-updates function. What updates are available? What do they fix?
depedency checking, verification, and download. If I install csharp-mode and it requires v5.0.28 of cc-mode, then it should confirm with me, that I must also download cc-mode.
there should be some sort of community ranking of these packages, like ranking torrents on isohunt. I want to see if a package has 3 upvotes or 3000.
"transactional" behavior. If an install goes boom, it must unwind to a last-known-good state.
failsafes. If I've put custom mods in linum.el, it should refuse to install a new version over my changes, unless I explicitly allow it. It should warn me before even starting. Do this with checksums/md5's over the existing install.
have the option of running some packages from compressed archives, like zip files. So I never have any doubt that I have not updated any of the embbedded elisp.
ability to use mirrored hosts for package distribution.
all this function should be accessible through M-x library-manageemnt or something.
Finally, it would be nice to have a way to segregate or organize libraries of functions. Hierarchical namespaces. Emacs' flat namespace is very dated. This is sort of independent but complementary to the core function of package management. I'm not a lisp guru so I don't know how hard this would be; maybe there is already a way to do it.
Package managers don't offer anything I value w.r.t. single-file elisp packages with simple dependencies: adding and deleting from site-lisp has never caused problems. It's packages that depend on external programs (e.g., ispell), multi-file packages (e.g., auctex, org-mode) that can be tricky. Can't think of any single-file elisp package with nontrivial dependencies, offhand.
For these, short of a package manager, I'd like emacs' elisp-packages to acquire test suites which can be run en masse, and which provide useful information in the event of dependency failures.
I am using ubuntu 8.04 and windows xp. I mount the fat32 disk which contains eclipse workspace to ubuntu. but I find I could not use the workspace, maybe I have no right to use it.
the fat32 disk I mounted has the 755 right,I try to use chmod to change it to 777 but failed. I try to mount it to 777 mode, but I find there is nothing about mode in vfat option.
How should I do next ? how could I share the workspace? Help me. thanks.
Instead of trying to share the raw workspace data between two different systems, I suggest to do it like in typical big software development projects. Use a version control system to store your code and commit/update to and from that version control system instead of sharing files.
This may not be the answer you were originally interested in, but rest assured, you will notice many advantages of that version control system after some time, including:
Easily get back to the code version before todays "genius" changes which didn't really work at the end
There is a backup of your project in case your workstation dies
You may even access your project from a completely different machine/location.
If your project is going to be open source, you can even use public services like Sourceforge.net.
I believe that the fat32 doesn't support the same kind of permissions as the linux ones you are familiar with. Once you have sorted out the rw option in /etc/mtab then I think you will have a better time.
However, the step after that is to have two different installations of Eclipse working on the same workspace.
I haven't had a lot of success with this (though haven't tried you're exact scenario), but I would be careful to:
keep the Eclipse versions in synch
only use relative paths, and relative to the workspace. This is probably good practice any way, but is worth repeating.
If all goes well, then you should be sharing everything, including preferences across both installations.
There are two refinements I can think of, which may be useful to reason about, if not actually do:
you could probably share most of the installation of eclipse (the plugins and features directory, if not the config.ini and eclipse.ini files). If you can't put both executables in the same directory, consider the -install and -configuration runtime options.
if you can't do any of these things, then you may need to work on two parallel workspaces. You can keep them in synch with tools such as rsync or even a distributed source control like Mercurial.
I agree with bananeweizen.myopenid, and have the following tip to add:
When creating your build path entries, reference all outside resources (eg, jarfiles) using classpath variables. This will allow you to move the .classpath file between environments (or even check it into source control, if you're the sole developer) without running into problems with pathnames.
To reference a JARFile via variable, go into the "Libraries" tab of the Build Path, remove any existing reference to the library, and click "Add Variable...". You will need to define common variables, such as M2_REPO or LOCAL_LIBS, and you will need to make sure that those definitions are available in all your environments.
Perhaps the problem you're having is with capitalization. Be sure to create the workspace in Ubuntu first. This should rule out any filename capitalization issues.