How does google deal with www.google.com/ncr? - redirect

I tried to find out this, and got that http://www.google.com/ncr uses 302(or 301) redirections(not sure if it really is).
and i also got that, the server side redirections(301 and 302) will not change the original referer, i.e. if i visit http://www.google.com/ncr directly, then the request goes to google.com, but nothing in the header can show that i come from http://www.google.com/ncr.
so i wonder how google do this.

People do this very often with servlets. The servlet would detect a certain pattern and issue a redirect to a conglomerated url. A redirect is directed at the browser. It's like the browser has activated/clicked on a new link.
It is like you entered google.com/abc on the url bar and then entered google.com on the address bar after that. Due to privacy issues, the browser does not let the server know what previous URL it has visited.
Of course, if you are on the same session, going to the same site, google would have both server side and client side cookies tracking you that you just came from another google url. If were a web service provider, I Would certainly exploit knowing your browsing history.
So that, due to your browsing history www.whatever. com would redirect to different pages for different users or sessions.
Addendum:
"Due to privacy issues, the browser does not let the server know what previous URL it has visited." is not quite correct.
The more complete spec is
Clients SHOULD NOT include a Referer header field in a (non-secure) HTTP request if the referring page was transferred with a secure protocol.
http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2616/rfc2616-sec15.html
Another reason why google forcing us to use https benefits us.
Redirect flow of non-secure http
Let's say we have
URL A has a link goto B with leads to URL B.
URL B is a redirect to URL C
The server of URL C will see the referer as URL A, not URL B. That is, the browsers will set the referer to URL A.
Redirect with cookies
I believe you should be able to include a setcookie header on a 30x redirect. I have not tried it so I do not know which browser will ignore or honour it.
BTW
I have great doubts that my answer is satisfactory for your question. I personally feel it is incomplete and I hope some one comes up with a better answer and you should choose that as the answer. In fact, I think you should unchoose this as the answer so that your question gets back into the pool of unanswered questions. Sorry.

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Coldfusion - Redirect website if it hits /folder/index.cfm?

Very new to Coldfusion, but not to web development so hopefully this is an easy question.
We recently changed a link on our website that took us to /folder/index.cfm. I want to make sure that when someone types www.ourwebsite.com/folder that it doesn't take them to /folder/index.cfm and instead to redirect them to another website.
Any pointers?
There are at least three ways it to do this.
Don't even bother with ColdFusion. Have your web server do the redirect. You are going to need to know if it Apache or IIS or whatever. You can then search for how that web server does it.
This might help you with some of that: Custom 404 error page not working on IIS 8.5
You can make a file at /folder/index.cfm and have a file that has
OR with cfscript
<cfscript>
location("newpage.cfm", false, 301)
</cfscript>
Note the addtoken and statuscode are optional. Add token helps because almost no CF website uses this kind of token. The status code helps because tells the browser that this is a permanent move.
You could intercept the request in application.cfc . In fact, in some systems all requested are checked for validity in application.cfc. You might still need a blank page at the target, but at least some ColdFusion is processed
Of all the options, 1 is my favorite, because there really isn't a lot that can be done with requests to missing pages. And the list of potential missing pages is unlimited.

How to check my page is from 302 redirect?

I found that anybody show their page to user, then 302 redirect to my site,
I want stop it.
I thought there would be referer in request header, but didn't!
I tested this in chrome72.0.3626.121 and ie11, and use fiddler to catch Request,
there have no referer header in all request.
And my server side code can't see referer too.
How can I stop 302 redirect to my site??
It's possible these days for sites to disable adding a referrer when a user follows a link. This is a privacy feature.
The result of sites using this feature is that you can't tell if:
A) A user opened your site directly from the addressbar
B) A user came to your site from somewhere else.
If you could tell the difference, it means the privacy feature is not working. Your only option is to block anyone with no referrer header, but then you might block a lot of other users as well.
There is one other common reason for this though, if you are running an insecure (http) site and you are being linked from secure (https://) site. It might be possible to get the referrer back in this case by upgrading your site to https.

302 redirect, get "redirected from" URL

Is there any way to identify the url which redirected to another one?
To be clear, let's say we have example-domain.com which redirects (302) to exampledomain.com.
I thought that maybe the http_referer server variable would contain the redirecting url but thats not the case. Is that possible at all?
Wouldn't let me comment or upvote as I'm too new. Wondering if you're still having this problem - as I am too.
If you have control over both domain names, I would suggest you 302 to the URL exampledomain.com?refUrl=example-domain.com and pull the data from the querystring.
If you DON'T have control over both domain names, you are in same situation as me and my non-intentional duplicate question (3rd party is 302 redirect to my website, how to stop?)
In my case from testing, the http_referrer returns the site 'before' the site doing the 302. IE "Google (Click) Example-Domain (302) ExampleDomain"... the http referrer returns Google.

How to do popup on new site for 301 redirected users?

I have just migrated a site to a new domain (with new design) and am redirecting from the old site to the new with .htaccess and redirect 301. Since the new site is quite different, I'm concerned that users might be disoriented. Is there a way to have a popup on the new site that users get only if they have been redirected from the old site? Have been searching on this but keywords seem to lead only to stuff on popup redirects to another site.
I can think of several ways to do it:
Redirect in the 301 to another page (www.blah.com/tour instead of www.blah.com) and there i would put the logic to show the popup
Redirect in the 301 to another page and there set a cookie and redirect to the original page. Then, add logic to the original page to show the popup if the cookie is present (and delete the cookie)
Check the referrer in the new site and if it matches the old one, show the popup
Your problem boils down to detecting a request that has come via a 301 redirect - popups and usability are a separate (simpler?!) issue.
Unfortunately, detecting a 301 redirect is one of those inexact things that requires a mixture of techniques to get near to 100%. I say near, but never quite there - a bit like browser detection.
One option is to append a querystring (GET) parameter to the redirected URL, e.g.
www.example.com/LandingPage.html?isRedirected=true
You could also set the same info in a cookie (but won't work if cookies are disabled or cleared).
Another option is checking the Referrer header - but again, these may differ based on browser implementation and can be faked, although if someone's faking a redirect I don't think you need to worry about guiding them through your new design!

How does MS-Word open a hyperlink?

I have an MS-Word document with a hyperlink. The hyperlink points at an authentication redirector on my server. When I control-click on the hyperlink, my server logs report that it
does a fetch with IE, then
fetches the redirect url with IE, then
launches the "default browser", which is Firefox in my case, and re-fetches the second (redirect) URL.
What gives? Is this by design?
I noticed this because my auth system is currently dependent on cookies set by the redirector. I have some ideas about using url-based auth for this bit, but I need to know what is motivating Word's behavior first.
I have some guesses but I'm looking for something authoritative (or at least a better-informed guess).
Unfortunately, yes. And they try to blame it on "a limitation of the single sign-on system used by the web server"...
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/899927
Actually, this is a "feature". If the hyperlink is to a Word document, word will attempt to download the document and open it. (You must be thinking it's IE because of the user-agent, but the request is coming from WinInet in the the Word process.)
The mess comes about when the server doesn't respond with a page, but rather responds with a redirect and cookies. Word follows the redirect to see if it's going to get a Word document, and it eventally ends up with an HTML page. It then decides that Firefox should display it, so it launches Firefox with the final redirected URL, (but without any of the cookies that the server sent).
Firefox may end up needing those cookies, if this is an SSO sign-on.
Late addition:
Noticed the same problem. Here with MVC 4 it caused the loss of querystring information.
Word launches the browser only after it receives a Http 200 status.
So I avoided this by checking in the controller whether the request comes from IE7 (representing likely only to be MS Word) and returning a 200 manually.
Then the 'real' browser will re-send the http request and all's well ends well, since from there the request is processed normally and all information is retained in the session with the 'real' browser.
Bit of a workaround, but hey, it works. And it's only for a small amount of requests (in our case).