Options for PayPal Payouts with Bank - paypal

I'm looking for a way to pay users to their PayPal account - ideally without manual intervention. I've looked at the MassPay & Payout APIs, but it seems that I need to hold the balance to be paid out in my PayPal account and there is no way to add funds to the PayPal account via the API.
I've also looked at the AdaptivePay API with the implicit payment option. However it fails to mention
1.) If I need to have the funds in the PayPal or if it will do an transfer from my primary banking source.
2.) What the fees for the transaction are? AFAIK it seems like payments can be made for free which would be strange considering the Payout API requires a fee.

Adaptive API with implicit payment will transfer the fund from the primary bank if balance cannot cover it, and implicit payment transaction fees is the same as normal transactions. MassPay & Payout APIs are usually used to send money to like hundreds of users while implicit payment can send money to 9 users at one time.

Related

Can I use the PayPal API to transfer money from one PayPal account to another without paying a fee?

I'd like to find a cheaper (free) service to use to transfer money between my websites customers and Stripe's fees a very high.
I can't seem to get any clear answer from the PayPal website for developers or by talking with a customer service reps on the phone.
In my website, I want to transfer money (via API) from my customers account (PayPal) to my business account (PayPal), then at a later time, transfer money from my business account to another customer account (PayPal).
Can this be done NO transaction fee?
If no, what are the transaction fees for this, I'm a little confused by the fee site.
Is this is the correct page? - https://developer.paypal.com/docs/payouts/reference/fees/
Or do I look under the merchant fees and which link? - https://www.paypal.com/us/webapps/mpp/merchant-fees#paypal-payouts
I also see adaptive payments, but it says on the site that it isn't available for "new integrations". Does this mean I can start using it when I go live with my site?
https://developer.paypal.com/docs/archive/adaptive-payments/
API...without paying a fee
No, the usual processing fees apply to all API transactions.
The only PayPal transfers without a fee are in certain countries that have payments to "friends & family", which are not for business or commercial purposes and can be initiated only in paypal.com and sourced from the PayPal balance or local bank (sending money from a card always has a fee).
Regarding fee types, merchant fees apply to receiving payments to your account and payouts fees apply to sending money from your account (if you have the payouts service)

Paypal adaptive payments - audit trail

We're planning a web app that allows users to pay our clients directly through Paypal so there will be many different users and each will be paying a specific client through the website and there will be multiple clients.
These payments may be one-off payments but a few may be recurring.
We won't be charging a transaction fee for this so we basically want the whole payment amount to be deposited in the client's Paypal account (so they pay their own Paypal fees). I've looked at chained payments to be able to take a payment for a client but I'm just wondering what the actual flow of money is in a chained payment.
When a chained payment is made does Paypal deposit the payment go into our Paypal account first and then be paid into the client's account or does the client portion (in this case 100%) go directly into the client's account?
I'm asking as we're not sure how it would affect us in terms of accounting in our business if all the payment money was actually passing through our Paypal account (even if only briefly).
Or is a chained payment not the ideal solution for this?
Thanks,
Steve
If you are not taking a cut of the money, then I believe either Simple or Parallel payments would be a better solution. If you are going to be processing payments for a single buyer to a single merchant, then you can just use Simple Payments. If you are going to be processing payments for a single buyer to multiple merchants then you'd want to use Parallel Payments. More information on each of those APIs can be found here.

Funding business paypal account from bank via api

Yes i know this question looks similar to Add funds to PayPal from Bank Account , but I have a legitimate circumstance why that answer is not acceptable.
I have many recipients that I need to automatically pay out each day, and need my paypal account to have suitable funds (while only making ONE call to my bank account). My bank account has transaction limits and I therefore can't afford to make 10+ withdrawals a day.
I plan on using Mass Payments api, does anyone know if this makes one lump withdrawal for the total amount of all the payments combined that are wrapped up in a mass payment?
Alternatively, does anyone know of an api way of funding a paypal account from a bank account?
Thanks
Unfortunately, there isn't any way to fund your PayPal account from your bank through the API. MassPay won't automatically do it either. You would need to have the funds already available in PayPal for MassPay to work.

PayPal PreApproved Payments

I am using PayPal PreApproved payments for my crowd funding website, where project backers are only charged if the project is successfully backed.
I am worried that high rate of payments will fail when the PayPal API tries to collect the funds when a project is successful:
a backer might not have any funds in their PayPal account
a backer might close their account once the project is successful (to intentionally stop payment)
a backer might remove/cancel their preapproved payment
etc...
There are a number of ways that the payment could fail which would mean that the project owner would not get their funds.
Can anyone suggest a way of tightening or securing payments. Please note, that PayPal will only allow you to use PreApproved payments for crowdfunding. Please also note that project owners need to be able to receive the funds from my site. Sometimes, these funds can be as small as $10 or up to $10,000 so we need to use PayPal to pay them as there is not other method of getting the funds to the project owner
I've implemented Paypal Adaptive payments and used them for payments at http://www.wethetrees.com and we had the exact problems you are describing. The capture rate is almost random, we were down to 35% with one campaign and had to manually send all backers invoices.
When capturing we had backers with closed/unauthorized accounts, insufficient funds, unavailable payment methods etc. We switched to just doing direct capture for a while, which is great since we get 100% of all pledges, but Paypal closed our account without notice when one of our campaigns mentioned the word "Cuba".
The solution in the end was to scrap Paypal so now we're using Wepay and Dwolla, and we're considering Bitpay (Bitcoin) as well. Seems to like Paypal wants to kill crowdfunding or doesn't understand it. Anything less than a 90% capture rate is totally unacceptable and will cause projects to fail.
Preapproval isn't the only thing they'll allow you to use. That's just one part of the Adaptive Payments API, but you could go with a delayed chained payment, too.
This way your account can be treated sort of like an Escrow. You can use the Pay API to create payments in the system that are split between receivers accordingly. Only the primary receiver would get paid at first, though, and then you can call ExecutePayment to submit the secondary payments from the primary account within 90 days.
This way the primary account holds all of the funds so they're available to pay out when the goal is reached. If the goal is not reached the payments could be refunded.

Withdraw money feature for paypal

Basically I have a script where user should have Withdraw button on his account so he can automatically withdraw money from my paypal balance
What API should I use in this case and is this available at all for paypal?
You may be interested in the Mass Pay API. You can send them in batches, say daily, weekly, or monthly.
See here for an explination directly from paypal:
https://cms.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/?cmd=_render-content&content_ID=developer/howto_api_masspay
The MassPay API allows you to send payments to up to 250 recipients with a single API call. The payment amount for each recipient is specified individually, but all payments in a MassPay API request must have the same currency type. You can choose to specify recipients by email address or PayPal customer account number.
And here for PHP examples (if you're using PHP):
https://www.x.com/paypal-apis-masspay-php-5.3/soap
There are additional examples and a large amount of documentation on the first PayPal.com link, regardless of programming language used.
Please keep in mind Mass Pay has it's own fee schedule.
There is also Adaptive payments, which may be more up your alley, as it's designed for more fine-grained control and has a larger API available. Information can be obtained here:
https://www.x.com/content/introducing-adaptive-payments
However, the Adaptive payments will require approval of each Payment by you (the sender) via the PayPal website. If you want 100% automation, the Mass Pay API is the way to go.
Please realize a mistake here could cost you infinate amounts of money, so tread extremely carefully.
If you're attempting to withdraw money from your PayPal account and move it to your bank account that's not something you can do via the API, unfortunately. You have to do that manually through PayPal, or you can call them and request that they enable AutoSweep for you, which will automatically move the balance in PayPal to your bank at the end of each day.
Ya there is preapproval api in AdaptivePayment. You can approve the api caller for the amount he want to withdraw from your account on your behalf.
You can refer api here : https://www.x.com/developers/paypal/documentation-tools/api/preapproval-api-operation