I have backend that recieves, stores and serves 10-20 MB json files. Which service should I use for superfast put and get (I cannot break the file in smaller chunks)? I dont have to run queries on these files just get them, store them and supply them instantly. The service should scale to tens of thousands of files easily. Ideally I should be able to put the file in 1-2 seconds and retrieve it in the same time.
I feel s3 is the best option and elastic search the second best option. Dyanmodb doesnt allow such object size. What should I use? Also, is there any other service? Mongodb is a possible solution but i dont see that on AWS, so something quick to setup would be great.
Thanks
I don't think you should go for Dynamo or ES for this kind of operation.
After all, what you want is to store and serve it, not going into the file's content which both Dynamo and ES would waste time to do.
My suggestion is to use AWS Lambda + S3 to optimize for cost
S3 does have some small downtime after putting till the file is available though ( It get bigger, minutes even, when you have millions of object in a bucket )
If downtime is important for your operation and total throughput at any given moment is not too huge, You can create a server ( preferably EC2) that serves as a temporary file stash. It will
Receive your file
Try to upload it to S3
If the file is requested before it's available on S3, serve the file on disk
If the file is successfully uploaded to S3, serve the S3 url, delete the file on disk
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i hope this is the right place to ask this. So what i want to do is perform a sequence search against a large database and create an API for this. I expect that this service will be accessed VERY rarely, as such I though about gcloud run, because this only bills me for each use case (and i dont use a lot). I already have a docker container configured that does what i expect it to, however I have an issue with the data thats required. I need a Database thats roughly 100 GB large. Is there a way to access this in glcoud run?
What would be the optimal way for me to get there? I think downlading 100GB of data every time a request is made is a waste. Maybe I could fetch a zip file from a storage bucket and inflate it in the run instance? But I am not sure if there is even that much space available.
Thank you
I believe the simpler way to do this is to rip the weight of the Cloud Run shoulders.
I'm assuming it is some sort of structured data (json, csv, etc) - if it really is it is simpler to import this data into BigQuery and make your Cloud Run service to query against BQ.
This way your API will answer way faster, you will save costs from running Cloud Run with very large instances to load into memory part of those 100gigs as also you will separate your architecture in layers (ie. an application layer and a data layer).
I know how to do it, but I wonder if it's effective. As I know MongoDB has very efficient clusters and I can flexibly control the collections and the servers they reside on. The only problem is the size of the files and the speed of accessing them through MongoDB.
Should I explore something like Apache Hadoop or if I intelligently cluster MongoDB, will I get similar access speed results?
GridFS is provided for convenience, it is not designed to be the ultimate binary blob storage platform.
MongoDB imposes a limit of 16 MB on each document it stores. This is unlike, for example, many relational databases which permit much larger values to be stored.
Since many applications deal with large binary blobs, MongoDB's solution to this problem is GridFS, which roughly works like this:
For each blob to be inserted, a metadata document is inserted into the metadata collection.
Then, the actual blob is split into 16 MB chunks and uploaded as a sequence of documents into the blob collection.
MongoDB drivers provide helpers for writing and reading the blobs and the metadata.
Thus, on first glance, the problem is solved - the application can store arbitrarily large blobs in a straightforward manner. However, digging deeper, GridFS has the following issues/limitations:
On the server side, documents storing blob chunks aren't stored separately from other documents. As such they compete for cache space with the actual documents. A database which has both content documents and blobs is likely to perform worse than a database that has only content documents.
At the same time, since the blob chunks are stored in the same way as content documents, storing them is generally expensive. For example, S3 is much cheaper than EBS storage, and GridFS would put all data on EBS.
To my knowledge there is no support for parallel writes or parallel reads of the blobs (writing/reading several chunks of the same blob at a time). This can in principle be implemented, either in MongoDB drivers or in an application, but as far as I know this isn't provided out of the box by any driver. This limits I/O performance when the blobs are large.
Similarly, if a read or write fails, the entire blob must be re-read or re-written as opposed to just the missing fragment.
Despite these issues, GridFS may be a fine solution for many use cases:
If the overall data size isn't very large, the negative cache effects are limited.
If most of the blobs fit in a single document, their storage should be quite efficient.
The blobs are backed up and otherwise transfered together with the content documents in the database, improving data consistency and reducing the risk of data loss/inconsistencies.
The good practice is to upload image somewhere (your server or cloud), and then only store image url in MongoDB.
Anyway, I did a little investigating. The short conclusion is: if you need to store user avatars you can use MongoDB, but only if it's a single avatar (You can't store many blobs inside MongoDB) and if you need to store videos or just many and heavy files, then you need something like CephFS.
Why do I think so? The thing is, when I was testing with MongoDB and media files on a slow instance, files weighing up to 10mb(Usually about 1 megabyte) were coming back at up to 3000 milliseconds. That's an unacceptably long time. When there were a lot of files (100+), it could turn into a pain. A real pain.
Ceph is designed just for storing files. To store petabytes of information. That's what's needed.
How do you implement this in a real project? If you use the OOP implementation of MongoDB(Mongoose), you can just add methods to the database objects that access Ceph and do what you need. You can make methods "load file", "delete file", "count quantity" and so on, and then just use it all together as usual. Don't forget to maintain Ceph, add servers as needed, and everything will work perfectly. The files themselves should be accessed only through your web server, not directly, i.e. the web server should throw a request to Ceph when the user needs to give the file and return the response from Ceph to the user.
I hope I helped more than just myself. I'll go add Ceph to my tags. Good luck!
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I'm currently building a system (with GCP) for storing large set of text files of different sizes (1kb~100mb) about different subjects. One fileset could be more than 10GB.
For example:
dataset_about_some_subject/
- file1.txt
- file2.txt
...
dataset_about_another_subject/
- file1.txt
- file2.txt
...
The files are for NLP, and after pre-processing, as pre-processed data are saved separately, will not be accessed frequently. So saving all files in MongoDB seems unnecessary.
I'm considering
saving all files into some cloud storage,
save file information like name and path to MongoDB as JSON.
The above folders turn to:
{
name: dataset_about_some_subject,
path: path_to_cloud_storage,
files: [
{
name: file1.txt
...
},
...
]
}
When any fileset is needed, search its name in MongoDB and read the files from cloud storage.
Is this a valid way? Will there be any I/O speed problem?
Or is there any better solution for this?
And I've read about Hadoop. Maybe this is a better solution?
Or maybe not. My data is not that big.
As far as I remember, MongoDB has a maximum object size of 16 MB, which is below the maximum size of the files (100 MB). This means that, unless one splits, storing the original files in plaintext JSON strings would not work.
The approach you describe, however, is sensible. Storing the files on cloud storage such as S3 or Azure, is common, not very expensive, and does not require a lot of maintenance comparing to having your own HDFS cluster. I/O would be best by performing the computations on the machines of the same provider, and making sure the machines are in the same region as the data.
Note that document stores, in general, are very good at handling large collections of small documents. Retrieving file metadata in the collection would thus be most efficient if you store the metadata of each file in a separate object (rather than in an array of objects in the same document), and have a corresponding index for fast lookup.
Finally, there is another aspect to consider, namely, whether your NLP scenario will process the files by scanning them (reading them all entirely) or whether you need random access or lookup (for example, a certain word). In the first case, which is throughput-driven, cloud storage is a very good option. In the latter case, which is latency-driven, there are document stores like Elasticsearch that offer good fulltext search functionality and can index text out of the box.
I recommend you to store large file using storage service provide by below. It also support Multi-regional access through CDN to ensure the speed of file access.
AWS S3: https://aws.amazon.com/tw/s3/
Azure Blob: https://azure.microsoft.com/zh-tw/pricing/details/storage/blobs/
GCP Cloud Storage: https://cloud.google.com/storage
You can rest assured that for the metadata storage you propose in mongodb, speed will not be a problem.
However, for storing the files themselves, you have various options to consider:
Cloud storage: fast setup, low initial cost, medium cost over time (compare vendor prices), datatransfer over public network for every access (might be a performance problem)
Mongodb-Gridfs: already in place, operation cost varies, data transfer is just as fast as from mongo itself
Hadoop cluster: high initial hardware and setup cost, lower cost over time. Data transfer in local network (provided you build it on-premise.) Specialized administration skills needed. Possibility to use the cluster for parrallel calculations (i.e. this is not only storage, this is also computing power.) (As a rule of thumb: if you are not going to store more than 500 TB, this is not worthwile.)
If you are not sure about the amount of data you cover, and just want to get started, I recommend starting out with gridfs, but encapsulate in a way that you can easily exchange the storage.
I have another answer: as you say, 10GB is really not big at all. You may want to also consider the option of storing it on your local computer (or locally on one single machine in the cloud), simply on your regular file system, and executing in parallel on your cores (Hadoop, Spark will do this too).
One way of doing it is to save the metadata as a single large text file (or JSON Lines, Parquet, CSV...), the metadata for each file on a separate line, then have Hadoop or Spark parallelize over this metadata file, and thus process the actual files in parallel.
Depending on your use case, this might turn out to be faster than on a cluster, or not exceedingly slower, especially if your execution is CPU-heavy. A cluster has clear benefits when the problem is that you cannot read from the disk fast enough, and for workloads executed occasionally, this is a problem that one starts having from the TB range.
I recommend this excellent paper by Frank McSherry:
https://www.usenix.org/system/files/conference/hotos15/hotos15-paper-mcsherry.pdf
I am trying to do analytics on emails for some users. To achieve this, I am trying to store the emails on Cloud Storage so I can run Hadoop jobs on them. (Earlier I tried App Engine DataStore but it was having a hard time scaling over that many user's data: hitting various resource limits etc.)
Is it better to store 1 email/file in Cloud Storage or all of a user's emails in one large file? In many examples about cloud storage, I see folks operating on large files, but it seems more logical to keep 1 file/email.
From a GCS scaling perspective there's no advantage to storing everything in one object vs many objects. However, listing the objects in a bucket is an eventually consistent operation. So, if your computation would proceed by first uploading (say) 1 million objects to a bucket, and then immediately starting a computation that lists the objects in the bucket and computing over their content, it's possible the listing would be incomplete. You could address that problem by maintaining a manifest of objects you upload and passing the manifest to the computation instead of having the computation list the objects in the bucket. Alternatively, if you load all the emails into a single file and upload it, you wouldn't need to perform a bucket listing operation.
If you plan to upload the data once and then run a variety of analytics computations (or rev a single computation and run it a number of times), uploading a large number of objects and depending on listing the bucket from your analytics computation would not be a problem, since the eventual consistency problem really only impacts you in the case where you list the bucket shortly after uploading.
As part of my work we get approx 25TB worth log files annually, currently it been saved over an NFS based filesystem. Some are archived as in zipped/tar.gz while others reside in pure text format.
I am looking for alternatives of using an NFS based system. I looked at MongoDB, CouchDB. The fact that they are document oriented database seems to make it the right fit. However the log files content needs to be changed to JSON to be store into the DB. Something I am not willing to do. I need to retain the log files content as is.
As for usage we intend to put a small REST API and allow people to get file listing, latest files, and ability to get the file.
The proposed solutions/ideas need to be some form of distributed database or filesystem at application level where one can store log files and can scale horizontally effectively by adding more machines.
Ankur
Since you dont want queriying features, You can use apache hadoop.
I belive HDFS and HBase will be nice fit for this.
You can see lot of huge storage stories inside Hadoop powered by page
Take a look at Vertica, a columnar database supporting parallel processing and fast queries. Comcast used it to analyze about 15GB/day of SNMP data, running at an average rate of 46,000 samples per second, using five quad core HP Proliant servers. I heard some Comcast operations folks rave about Vertica a few weeks ago; they still really like it. It has some nice data compression techniques and "k-safety redundancy", so they could dispense with a SAN.
Update: One of the main advantages of a scalable analytics database approach is that you can do some pretty sophisticated, quasi-real time querying of the log. This might be really valuable for your ops team.
Have you tried looking at gluster? It is scalable, provides replication and many other features. It also gives you standard file operations so no need to implement another API layer.
http://www.gluster.org/
I would strongly disrecommend using a key/value or document based store for this data (mongo, cassandra, etc.). Use a file system. This is because the files are so large, and the access pattern is going to be linear scan. One thing problem that you will run into is retention. Most of the "NoSQL" storage systems use logical delete, which means that you have to compact your database to remove deleted rows. You'll also have a problem if your individual log records are small and you have to index each one of them - your index will be very large.
Put your data in HDFS with 2-3 way replication in 64 MB chunks in the same format that it's in now.
If you are to choose a document database:
On CouchDB you can use the _attachement API to attach the file as is to a document, the document itself could contain only metadata (like timestamp, locality and etc) for indexing. Then you will have a REST API for the documents and the attachments.
A similar approach is possible with Mongo's GridFs, but you would build the API yourself.
Also HDFS is a very nice choice.