Isn't the password hashing type stored with the hash?
Otherwise how would the system verify the password without knowing the hash type?
Yes, the system must recognize the hash type.
Either there is only one hash type (and the code working with the hashes implicitly assumes the hash type), or else there is a mix of hash types (and the hash type may still be stored in the code, or else stored with the hash in some way).
But the system doesn't need to expose this information to the user. In the case of Facebook, their password storage approach is public enough that Alec Muffett gave a public recorded talk about it. Many other systems do not disclose their password hashing methodology.
Sometimes, the hashing methodology can be deduced, most famously in the case of descrypt (which truncates at eight characters) and bcrypt (which truncates at 72 characters). In both cases, a password longer than the truncation length, but not an exact match, can be used to infer the password hash being used.
Is it possible to reverse a SHA-1?
I'm thinking about using a SHA-1 to create a simple lightweight system to authenticate a small embedded system that communicates over an unencrypted connection.
Let's say that I create a sha1 like this with input from a "secret key" and spice it with a timestamp so that the SHA-1 will change all the time.
sha1("My Secret Key"+"a timestamp")
Then I include this SHA-1 in the communication and the server, which can do the same calculation. And hopefully, nobody would be able to figure out the "secret key".
But is this really true?
If you know that this is how I did it, you would know that I did put a timestamp in there and you would see the SHA-1.
Can you then use those two and figure out the "secret key"?
secret_key = bruteforce_sha1(sha1, timestamp)
Note1:
I guess you could brute force in some way, but how much work would that actually be?
Note2:
I don't plan to encrypt any data, I just would like to know who sent it.
No, you cannot reverse SHA-1, that is exactly why it is called a Secure Hash Algorithm.
What you should definitely be doing though, is include the message that is being transmitted into the hash calculation. Otherwise a man-in-the-middle could intercept the message, and use the signature (which only contains the sender's key and the timestamp) to attach it to a fake message (where it would still be valid).
And you should probably be using SHA-256 for new systems now.
sha("My Secret Key"+"a timestamp" + the whole message to be signed)
You also need to additionally transmit the timestamp in the clear, because otherwise you have no way to verify the digest (other than trying a lot of plausible timestamps).
If a brute force attack is feasible depends on the length of your secret key.
The security of your whole system would rely on this shared secret (because both sender and receiver need to know, but no one else). An attacker would try to go after the key (either but brute-force guessing or by trying to get it from your device) rather than trying to break SHA-1.
SHA-1 is a hash function that was designed to make it impractically difficult to reverse the operation. Such hash functions are often called one-way functions or cryptographic hash functions for this reason.
However, SHA-1's collision resistance was theoretically broken in 2005. This allows finding two different input that has the same hash value faster than the generic birthday attack that has 280 cost with 50% probability. In 2017, the collision attack become practicable as known as shattered.
As of 2015, NIST dropped SHA-1 for signatures. You should consider using something stronger like SHA-256 for new applications.
Jon Callas on SHA-1:
It's time to walk, but not run, to the fire exits. You don't see smoke, but the fire alarms have gone off.
The question is actually how to authenticate over an insecure session.
The standard why to do this is to use a message digest, e.g. HMAC.
You send the message plaintext as well as an accompanying hash of that message where your secret has been mixed in.
So instead of your:
sha1("My Secret Key"+"a timestamp")
You have:
msg,hmac("My Secret Key",sha(msg+msg_sequence_id))
The message sequence id is a simple counter to keep track by both parties to the number of messages they have exchanged in this 'session' - this prevents an attacker from simply replaying previous-seen messages.
This the industry standard and secure way of authenticating messages, whether they are encrypted or not.
(this is why you can't brute the hash:)
A hash is a one-way function, meaning that many inputs all produce the same output.
As you know the secret, and you can make a sensible guess as to the range of the timestamp, then you could iterate over all those timestamps, compute the hash and compare it.
Of course two or more timestamps within the range you examine might 'collide' i.e. although the timestamps are different, they generate the same hash.
So there is, fundamentally, no way to reverse the hash with any certainty.
In mathematical terms, only bijective functions have an inverse function. But hash functions are not injective as there are multiple input values that result in the same output value (collision).
So, no, hash functions can not be reversed. But you can look for such collisions.
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As you want to authenticate the communication between your systems, I would suggest to use HMAC. This construct to calculate message authenticate codes can use different hash functions. You can use SHA-1, SHA-256 or whatever hash function you want.
And to authenticate the response to a specific request, I would send a nonce along with the request that needs to be used as salt to authenticate the response.
It is not entirely true that you cannot reverse SHA-1 encrypted string.
You cannot directly reverse one, but it can be done with rainbow tables.
Wikipedia:
A rainbow table is a precomputed table for reversing cryptographic hash functions, usually for cracking password hashes. Tables are usually used in recovering a plaintext password up to a certain length consisting of a limited set of characters.
Essentially, SHA-1 is only as safe as the strength of the password used. If users have long passwords with obscure combinations of characters, it is very unlikely that existing rainbow tables will have a key for the encrypted string.
You can test your encrypted SHA-1 strings here:
http://sha1.gromweb.com/
There are other rainbow tables on the internet that you can use so Google reverse SHA1.
Note that the best attacks against MD5 and SHA-1 have been about finding any two arbitrary messages m1 and m2 where h(m1) = h(m2) or finding m2 such that h(m1) = h(m2) and m1 != m2. Finding m1, given h(m1) is still computationally infeasible.
Also, you are using a MAC (message authentication code), so an attacker can't forget a message without knowing secret with one caveat - the general MAC construction that you used is susceptible to length extension attack - an attacker can in some circumstances forge a message m2|m3, h(secret, m2|m3) given m2, h(secret, m2). This is not an issue with just timestamp but it is an issue when you compute MAC over messages of arbitrary length. You could append the secret to timestamp instead of pre-pending but in general you are better off using HMAC with SHA1 digest (HMAC is just construction and can use MD5 or SHA as digest algorithms).
Finally, you are signing just the timestamp and the not the full request. An active attacker can easily attack the system especially if you have no replay protection (although even with replay protection, this flaw exists). For example, I can capture timestamp, HMAC(timestamp with secret) from one message and then use it in my own message and the server will accept it.
Best to send message, HMAC(message) with sufficiently long secret. The server can be assured of the integrity of the message and authenticity of the client.
You can depending on your threat scenario either add replay protection or note that it is not necessary since a message when replayed in entirety does not cause any problems.
Hashes are dependent on the input, and for the same input will give the same output.
So, in addition to the other answers, please keep the following in mind:
If you start the hash with the password, it is possible to pre-compute rainbow tables, and quickly add plausible timestamp values, which is much harder if you start with the timestamp.
So, rather than use
sha1("My Secret Key"+"a timestamp")
go for
sha1("a timestamp"+"My Secret Key")
I believe the accepted answer is technically right but wrong as it applies to the use case: to create & transmit tamper evident data over public/non-trusted mediums.
Because although it is technically highly-difficult to brute-force or reverse a SHA hash, when you are sending plain text "data & a hash of the data + secret" over the internet, as noted above, it is possible to intelligently get the secret after capturing enough samples of your data. Think about it - your data may be changing, but the secret key remains the same. So every time you send a new data blob out, it's a new sample to run basic cracking algorithms on. With 2 or more samples that contain different data & a hash of the data+secret, you can verify that the secret you determine is correct and not a false positive.
This scenario is similar to how Wifi crackers can crack wifi passwords after they capture enough data packets. After you gather enough data it's trivial to generate the secret key, even though you aren't technically reversing SHA1 or even SHA256. The ONLY way to ensure that your data has not been tampered with, or to verify who you are talking to on the other end, is to encrypt the entire data blob using GPG or the like (public & private keys). Hashing is, by nature, ALWAYS insecure when the data you are hashing is visible.
Practically speaking it really depends on the application and purpose of why you are hashing in the first place. If the level of security required is trivial or say you are inside of a 100% completely trusted network, then perhaps hashing would be a viable option. Hope no one on the network, or any intruder, is interested in your data. Otherwise, as far as I can determine at this time, the only other reliably viable option is key-based encryption. You can either encrypt the entire data blob or just sign it.
Note: This was one of the ways the British were able to crack the Enigma code during WW2, leading to favor the Allies.
Any thoughts on this?
SHA1 was designed to prevent recovery of the original text from the hash. However, SHA1 databases exists, that allow to lookup the common passwords by their SHA hash.
Is it possible to reverse a SHA-1?
SHA-1 was meant to be a collision-resistant hash, whose purpose is to make it hard to find distinct messages that have the same hash. It is also designed to have preimage-resistant, that is it should be hard to find a message having a prescribed hash, and second-preimage-resistant, so that it is hard to find a second message having the same hash as a prescribed message.
SHA-1's collision resistance is broken practically in 2017 by Google's team and NIST already removed the SHA-1 for signature purposes in 2015.
SHA-1 pre-image resistance, on the other hand, still exists. One should be careful about the pre-image resistance, if the input space is short, then finding the pre-image is easy. So, your secret should be at least 128-bit.
SHA-1("My Secret Key"+"a timestamp")
This is the pre-fix secret construction has an attack case known as the length extension attack on the Merkle-Damgard based hash function like SHA-1. Applied to the Flicker. One should not use this with SHA-1 or SHA-2. One can use
HMAC-SHA-256 (HMAC doesn't require the collision resistance of the hash function therefore SHA-1 and MD5 are still fine for HMAC, however, forgot about them) to achieve a better security system. HMAC has a cost of double call of the hash function. That is a weakness for time demanded systems. A note; HMAC is a beast in cryptography.
KMAC is the pre-fix secret construction from SHA-3, since SHA-3 has resistance to length extension attack, this is secure.
Use BLAKE2 with pre-fix construction and this is also secure since it has also resistance to length extension attacks. BLAKE is a really fast hash function, and now it has a parallel version BLAKE3, too (need some time for security analysis). Wireguard uses BLAKE2 as MAC.
Then I include this SHA-1 in the communication and the server, which can do the same calculation. And hopefully, nobody would be able to figure out the "secret key".
But is this really true?
If you know that this is how I did it, you would know that I did put a timestamp in there and you would see the SHA-1. Can you then use those two and figure out the "secret key"?
secret_key = bruteforce_sha1(sha1, timestamp)
You did not define the size of your secret. If your attacker knows the timestamp, then they try to look for it by searching. If we consider the collective power of the Bitcoin miners, as of 2022, they reach around ~293 double SHA-256 in a year. Therefore, you must adjust your security according to your risk. As of 2022, NIST's minimum security is 112-bit. One should consider the above 128-bit for the secret size.
Note1: I guess you could brute force in some way, but how much work would that actually be?
Given the answer above. As a special case, against the possible implementation of Grover's algorithm ( a Quantum algorithm for finding pre-images), one should use hash functions larger than 256 output size.
Note2: I don't plan to encrypt any data, I just would like to know who sent it.
This is not the way. Your construction can only work if the secret is mutually shared like a DHKE. That is the secret only known to party the sender and you. Instead of managing this, a better way is to use digital signatures to solve this issue. Besides, one will get non-repudiation, too.
Any hashing algorithm is reversible, if applied to strings of max length L. The only matter is the value of L. To assess it exactly, you could run the state of art dehashing utility, hashcat. It is optimized to get best performance of your hardware.
That's why you need long passwords, like 12 characters. Here they say for length 8 the password is dehashed (using brute force) in 24 hours (1 GPU involved). For each extra character multiply it by alphabet length (say 50). So for 9 characters you have 50 days, for 10 you have 6 years, and so on. It's definitely inaccurate, but can give us an idea, what the numbers could be.
I would like to hash user password with Argon2id, then use this hash as ECDSA private key. I made some tests with Python and passlib.hash and found following parameters:
memory: 32 MB
iterations: 100
hash length: 32 bytes (the same as ECDSA private key length)
parallelism: 1 (I want to make it slow on purpose and the algorithm will be run on variety of devices)
With these parameters it takes about 1 second to hash the password on my computer, which is acceptable.
The question is: how to assess if these parameters are secure enough? Please note that public keys are public, so we don't have a typical situation here like with passwords when attacker has limited capabilities to check if hash is correct, unless the database is compromised. Here, with known public key attacker can easily check (offline) if generated private key (thus Argon2 result) matches to known public key without a need to gain access to protected database.
My calculations:
Let's say passwords have 12 characters including lowercase, uppercase letters and numbers (26+26+10) so at best (with naïve assumption that passwords are generated randomly) there are about (62^12 or 2^71.45) 3,226,266,762,397,899,821,056 combinations. Attacker will need to try half of tries to crack the password, which gives us 1,613,133,381,198,949,910,528 tries. It is 51,152,123,959,885 years per single core. We can use thousands of cores at the same time but it will still need too much time to crack it. Obviously this time in reality will be much shorter because attackers will rather use dictionary attacks.
Using a private key (ECDSA or not) derived from a user-provided password completely defeats the whole security and purpose of private/public keys. User passwords typically have very little entropy (50 bits or less), way less than even your basic RSA 2048. Hashing the password with Argon2 (or any other method) makes absolutely no difference, as hashes provides no extra entropy, it's merely a "one-way" encoding.
I'm trying to store user passwords in my DB using Argon2 algorithm.
This is what I obtain by using it:
$echo -n "password" | argon2 "smallsalt" -id -t 4 -m 18 -p 4
Type: Argon2id
Iterations: 4
Memory: 262144 KiB
Parallelism: 4
Hash: cb4447d91dd62b085a555e13ebcc6f04f4c666388606b2c401ddf803055f54ac
Encoded: $argon2id$v=19$m=262144,t=4,p=4$c21hbGxzYWx0$y0RH2R3WKwhaVV4T68xvBPTGZjiGBrLEAd34AwVfVKw
1.486 seconds
Verification ok
In this case, what should I store in the DB?
The "encoded" value as shown above?
The "hash" value as shown above?
Neither, but another solution?
Please, could you help me? I'm a newbie with this and I'm a little bit lost.
I'm a bit late to the party, but I disagree with the previous answers.
You should store the field: Encoded
The $argon2id$.... value.
(At least if you are using normal Argon2 libraries having the verify() function.
It does not look like the man-page for argon2 command does this, however.
Only if you are stuck with the command line, you should consider storing each field individually.)
The $argon2id$ encoded hash
The argon2 encoded hash follows the same as its older cousin bcrypt's syntax.
The encoded hash includes all you ever need to verify the hash when the user logs in.
It is most likely more future proof. When a newer and better argon2 comes along: You can upgrade your one column hashed passwords. Just like you could detect bcrypt's $2a$-hashes, and re-hash them as $argon2id$-hashes, next time the user logs in. (If you were moving from bcrypt to agron2.)
TL;DR
Store the $-encoded value encoded_hash in your database.
Use argon2.verify(password, encoded_hash) to verify that the password is correct.
Don't bother about all the values inside the hash. Let the library do that for you. :)
Neither. Save following as a single value:
algorithm ID (e.g. argon2id)
salt
number of iterations (4)
memory usage factor (18)
parallelism (4)
The output of the field "encoded" is misleading because you cannot use it as is for password check (i.e. for hash generation), e.g. m=262144 where as for password check you need the original factor m=18.
Are you going to launch an OS process each time you check password? I would discourage you from doing this. I'd suggest you use a library (C++, Java, ...). They produce a string that contains all these data concatenated and separated with "$".
I'd put the type, iterations, memory, parallelism, hash, salt and corresponding user id into separate columns and leave the encoded bit out, because it's just all the attributes joined together. If they're in separate columns then you can reference the attributes more easily than having to split and index the encoded string.
The other option is to just store the encoded string in 1 column, but as I said its more tedious to look at certain attributes, as you'd have to split the encoded string and then index it.
I had the same question and read this post while gathering some information. Now after some days and thoughts about all this, I'll personally take a different route than the accepted answer and therefore slightly disagree with it. I thought I would share my perspective so that it might help others as well.
I suppose it will depend on everyone's context. I don't think there is a one size fits all answer here. I'm sure there are situations where it is perfectly valid and even better/simpler to store the encoded string ($argon2...).
However, I would argue that depending on the context, storing the encoded string doesn't seem to be the right approach.
First of all, it makes the hashing method very obvious. It is probably not that important but for some reasons it makes me a bit more comfortable not having it ^^. But, more importantly, it means that implementation details are stored in your persistence layer (db or else). At the time of writing, argon2id is the recommended hashing mechanism by OWASP but these things can change (eventually do change...). Some day, it might be considered unsecure, or another function will be considered more secure.
As a result, I would suggest this more function "agnostic" starting point:
The hash (for argon2 -> the hex string)
The salt
The last_modified date
A string with hashing parameters (for argon2, you could put the parameters here in the form of your choosing)
The last_modified allows to know if the hash needs updating or not and the parameters allows to support the verification and update of "old" hashes.
Of course this means that you have to work a bit more in the code and can't simply use every libraries shortcuts straight away. But, I would say that this increased complexity offer more flexibility in other circumstances (like moving away from a given hashing function). As always there are no free lunch.
That's why I suppose it depends on your context and why personally I wouldn't go with the accepted answer in my situation.
PS: I'm no cryptography expert nor some devsecop guru. So feel free to contradict, enrich, agree or disagree. I just like to keep my implementation details contained ;)
When I instantiate AesManaged in C#, it already has the .Key property set. Is it safe to use it? I.e. is it cryptographically strong and random enough for each new instantiation of AesManaged (and every time I call .GenerateKey() on an existing instance)?
All examples I've seen, first generate a random password and then use a key derivation function like Rfc2898DeriveBytes or PasswordDeriveBytes to generate the Key (e.g. How to use 'System.Security.Cryptography.AesManaged' to encrypt a byte[]?). This requires additional information - like salt value, number of password iterations, what hash algorithm to use.
I understand I need all that if I want my users to come up with passwords. I then need to produce random cryptographically strong Keys from them. But if everything is generated by the computer, do I need to programmatically generate random passwords and then Keys from them, or can I just use whatever AesManaged.Key contains?
Yes, you can use the default Key and IV values if you like. You can also explicitly regenerate a new random one with:
SymmetricAlgorithm.GenerateKey() or SymmetricAlgorithm.CreateEncryptor(null, null)
It depends on what you are protecting and how many owners of information you need to support. If speed / volume doesn't matter, then you are still better adopting PBKDF2 by using Rfc2898DeriveBytes for the iterations.
Regardless, you don't want to share the key across multiple users / tenants / security "realms", however, but sure you can use the default key for a single application. If you do, combine the salt with it.
The reasons we use user defined passwords and salts are to avoid attacks that exploit common/weak passwords or shared passwords between users and to ensure as application owners don't know their keys.
The reasons we use PBKDF2 (derivation with many iterations) is to slow down the attacker. Penalty we pay 1 time per user is paid many times by an attacker.
If your needs are just to have a random key for a single application or system, then the default is usable, assuming, of course, it provides the strength you need.