I've started my degree project, a mobile application suitable for iPhone, Android and (in the near future) Symbian. The server architecture is the following:
web site (for "standard" users);
web service (for mobile connections), based on TomCat and Axis2;
mySQL DB to storage users data.
Surfing across the web, I've read a lot of discussion about the interaction between the iPhone and Web Services, and I've to say that I've not a clear idea of what I can do and what not.
Let's start from the protocol used to retrieve data from the DB: the Android-side application uses SOAP protocol, can I do the same with iPhone? Are there some limitations or problems?
I have also read about the using of REST instead of SOAP, could it be possible with the server architecture described above? Which are the main advantages/disadvantages?
Sorry if these questions sound "n00b", but it's my first real experience with iPhone and the lot of informations found on the web messed up my mind and I'm scared to be confused. Forgive me for any error.
SOAP is simply too heavy for mobile communications. Why do all the work to wrap requests in an additional XML layer you'll have to parse? You send more data than you need to, and impose greater CPU burden on client and server.
Use REST. If you are doing a cross-platform project JSON makes a great payload container, otherwise plists work well for sending data from the server.
You can definitely do SOAP on the iPhone. Here is a nice tutorial on the subject. After all, SOAP is a HTTP based protocol and you have all the libraries you need to do HTTP on the iPhone.
Having said that, RESTful APIs are simpler than SOAP, so you might want to consider them. They're also HTTP based so you won't have any problems on doing that on iPhone. On the server side, if you use Java, you will have to use JAX-RS to implement that part.
Hope it helps.
Google Buffers
If your looking for a language and platform agnostic solution have a look at Google Buffers. You can easily serialise objects for transmission over the wire.
This question should get you started in Objective-C.
JSON
I have also used JSON within iPhone Apps with great success. Again, relatively language and platform agnostic but much simpler than Google Buffers.
SOAP with Fast Infoset is suited for small devices:
JAX-WS 2.0 and its reference implementation support both Fast Infoset and MTOM/XOP. This article includes information about Web Service Performance for Fast Infoset vs. MTOM/XOP:
http://www.devx.com/xml/Article/35385/1954
Fast Infoset is optimized for small
devices that have bandwidth
constraints, and is supported by many
vendors such as Microsoft .NET and
.NET CF, Sun GlassFish, BEA WebLogic,
IBM SDK for Java 6.0 and others.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fast_Infoset
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In my iphone application I am calling (by SOAP post method) a web service which is written in .net and hosted on a server, and its all working fine. But my doubt is, can we write a web service in objective c? And host it on a server? so that we should be able to access it from any of the platforms like .net, php and objectiveC.
I read a fantastic tutorial regarding this question some time ago here.
To be honest, it can be quite difficult to really use this in a productive environment. If you want to get all the features and tools Apple gives to you (what seems to be the intention of your question), you'll have to use a Mac in order to run your service afterwards.
In my opionion using PHP for example (if you need a db also backed up by MySQL) is much easier. Almost all hosters support it and you won't have to worry about setting up a bunch of macs and connecting them via solid and stable cables to the internet (and with that: guarantee availability).
Yes. A web service is just some application that can provide a service over the web. As you can create an application in Objective C, it can be a web service the same as made in any other language.
You can make it run on any server where you have an objective C compiler, however, the framework you use may restrict your choices to the server (ie, you can write objective C on windows, but you wouldn't be able to use the NS framework)
Web services are not limited to a programming language, however you do need to find if there is any framework using objective-c can run on specific server. For example, iiS allows you to use Asp.net which could be implemented using C# or VB.Net.
From the clients who will consume web services, they don't have to be a specific type of device. I think that's the point of web services. The messages travel in between is formatted. For example, a SOAP message is using xml, and that would ensure the message travel on HTTP. Therefore no matter you use iPhone or Android or Blackberry, you should have no problem to make web service calls.
So in general, I think you have to see what kind of web services you want to create, and then see if Apple(I assume) can provide you with a good framework to do it. In terms of client side, as long as your web services are using XML or JSON, it should be well supported.
Hope it helps.
I am in the process of scoping the development of an iPhone app for a client. Among other things, the app will allow users to browse through and place orders on specific (tangible) products.
The client has a website that currently does a similar thing and due to their limited budget and the fact that the website runs on a third-party proprietary platform which they have no control over, we are investigating possible alternatives to building a web service.
On the website, user registration and authentication, as well as order placing is done through POST requests via secure HTTP. The response is always a formatted HTML page which will contain strings indicating whether the request was successful or not, and if there was an error, what the error is etc.
So provided I can replicate the POST requests on the phone, and parse the HTML responses to read the results of each request, do you think this is an acceptable alternative to building a web service to handle this?
Apart from the possibility of pages changing (which we can manage) and the fact that I will probably have to download and parse a relatively large HTML response, are there any other drawbacks to this solution and is there anything else that I might be missing?
Many thanks in advance for your thoughts.
Cheers,
Rog
You could create an intermediary server that will communicate with the client server, and on it expose some REST web services with json (small overhead and easy to handle) responses that will be consumed by the iPhone app.
So, you're going to parse HTML and formulate POSTs off a third-party server, and pray that they don't even so much as rename a form field.
Your question is in two parts:
Do I think that a miracle is an acceptable solution? I don't.
Do I think that aside from the fact a miracle is required, are there any other drawbacks? None that I can think of.
You didn't ask, but this is a terrible course of action. Two suggestions.
I spy an assumption that the providers of the third-party platform aren't interested in enabling third-party applications by providing an API. They have a very good business reason for this, which is that it promotes platform lock-in. Reach out to their support department and have a talk with them.
You have to sell the client on building an intermediary web service. To at least try to mitigate the damage that changes on this third-party platform can do to your app, I recommend that you build and operate a proxy that receives requests from your applications, and proxies them over to the third-party platform. You should build into this client-server protocol a means for returning "we are in maintenance mode, go away" messages to apps, for that inevitable day when the third-party server changes something that breaks your app (they swapped the billing and shipping address pages, for instance) and you have to rush through an update through Apple to deal with it.
The proxy could be written in something more flexible and easy to bash stuff out in, such as PHP, Python, Perl, or Ruby. It could be hosted at Amazon in a micro instance.
p.s. This question is inappropriately tagged objective C.
HTML is the worst because of parsing (1-2secs per page), memory, and changes, but you already know that. Check in advance that ALL the data you need is exposed on the HTML.
If you use an intermediary server you are moving work elsewhere and you have another server to maintain. I would only do that if memory is an issue. Check How To Choose The Best XML Parser for Your iPhone Project for memory/performance/xpath support. libxml2 is a good option, but it depends on your needs. And maybe you'll want to check ASIHTTPRequest features before using the SDK.
I think utilising the web language of JSON would contribute to the diminishing of the parsing time. By building a REST service that, when sent a GET request, returns the correct information for easy sorting, you could then display the output a lot faster than that of parsing straight HTML.
I prefer JSON over XML, but everyone has their personal preference. You should look at a few very good libraries that are built specifically for parsing purposes of both XML and JSON.
For XML I recommend using the inbuilt libxml parser. Albeit, this can sometimes deem very difficult to use. A simple Google search will bring up a heap of results that relate specifically to what parser should be used depending on what task is to be completed.
As for a JSON parser, I recommend SBJSON. I am currently using it one of the biggest projects I have undertaken and it is definitely working perfectly for my use.
If you need a good way to connect to a RESTful web service, you should try LRResty.
Don't go for a parsing solution on the iPhone for 4 reasons:
Server can change their design and break your application (AppStore submition is long) + They can also detect that the request are sent from an application based on user agent which you have to update the application to change it.
Some of the requests might be made thru Javascript so you not only have to parse (X)HTML but also Javascript request (which can be in the form of XMLHttpRequest, but don't have to)
Long term evolution of the mobile market : maybe your client want (or will want) an application for android, Blackberry, Bada OS (Samsung), Symbian (Nokia/ OVIStore), Java Mobile or Windows Phone 7?
Of course network traffic, Memory and CPU needed to parse HTML (look the time it takes to the browser to do it?)
Regarding the traffic, if the application will not have a huge traffic you can home-host your proxy. Or you can find some provider to host it for you. I guess you won't need more than a couple of Megabytes of storage but maybe traffic. For less than 100€/year you can find some with unlimited traffic (like OVH Pro plan or Infomaniak). But if you want to go Java have a look at Google App Engine : you pay only if your traffic is important and if your application generate many CPU Cycles. If not : you don't have to pay. And it's hosted on Google server : reliable.
If the client is open, you could consider the paypal API.
We have a web-based BI reporting product. We have exposed certain webservices which mainly return html content and do authentication.
We are in a initial process of developing an iPhone App, which will interact with these services and get data on iPhone.
There are couple of things we need to make sure before we start with the actual development process...
1) Should we use SOAP or REST (Will have to write the server part in Java) for the communication between iPhone and our web-application?
2) If we use SOAP, Can you suggest something, which will effectively create web services stubs in Objective-C.
3) In either case (SOAP or REST), what security mechanism is suggested by Apple?
We want to know your thoughts on the best and effective way communication could be done between iPhone app and backend servers (mostly written in Java)
Thanks in advance.
If it is an option, I'd use REST
Never did it, but may this will help: http://abhicodehelp.blogspot.com/2010/12/handling-soap-with-iphone.html
I'd do any HTTP-Communication using ASIHttpRequest. It is SSL-capable
In my apps I use simple URL requests returning XML / Cocoa-touch plists over https. I guess that's called "REST" -- it's simple and quick to implement. There are long flame-fests over SOAP vs. REST -- I just use this technique and get my apps done :)
I do not have much experience coding systems dealing with web-services. Please help me in solving following confusion.
One of my clients want me to build an iPhone App that had native UI controls but deals extensively with Web Services. Right from authenticating the user into a network to loading a list of users or anything related in the app will need to talk to a web service.
They have web services deployed on .NET on the server side and already have required data in SOAP web service. By doing some basic research on the web it seems that dealing with SOAP from an iPhone app could be messy and affect performance.
The client is ready to make the data available in from of JSON or plain XML data. I am not sure which one would be a better option? The data could range from few tens to few hundreds of rows only.
Can someone please point me how can I do a comparative study in short period of time (3-4 days) even if it takes for me to learn about the SOAP, XML, JSON and REST web services. Is this even possible or should I just go with some expert advice? - Waiting for expert advice :)
Thanks
XML and JSON are data interchange formats. JSON is generally considered easier to work with, although a good library should make both palatable.
REST is an architectural style; it is the architectural style that HTTP is designed to support.
SOAP is a protocol for implementing web services, and it does not follow the REST architectural style; it's more of an Remote Procedure Call style.
I dislike SOAP because it forces you to rely on tools to manage many of its facets. If your tools happen to work differently than the tools used by the other end, then it becomes extremely painful.
I recommend reading RESTful Web Services for a general overview of REST, and why it's "better" than SOAP.
I don't have any good resources for SOAP, or anything iPhone specific.
RESTFul webservices can return responses in XML or in JSon, the option of using such service is better than soap for iphone because of the overhead involved with soap as you mentioned. Basically when u get responses in xml or json its just some text that you need to parse. I would recommend going with Json as there are json parser libraries for iphone out there already and its very simple to use...Here is a tutorial for using the json parser and parsing your responses, Json tutorial...hope it helps
We have an iPhone application created by an external consultancy that we're planning to add card payment facilities to in a subsequent release.
We plan to host a service ourselves in order to process the payment stuff, with SSL encryption. We have in-house expertese for all of this apart from the (contracted out) iPhone bit.
Are there any specific gotchas that we should be aware of that concern designing web services for iPhones?
We'll be writing the web service in C# 3.5.
JSON data format is better to be converted into NSArray or NSDictionary objects. It's easier and faster to be parsed.
So, specifically for the iPhone, it's a lot better to consume JSON data. Unless if there's some technical complexity that JSON is unable to handle.
Check YAJL:
http://github.com/lloyd/yajl
There are Objective-C wrapper/implementations by gabriel in github and by MGTwitterEngine.
TouchJSON is another code that's simpler than yajl. You can convert JSON string into NSDictionary or NSArray object in 2 lines of code. But, it maybe slower.
I'm not sure there are really any special considerations. The iPhone should be able to communicate with most types of webservice.
I worked on an iPhone app that communicated to a RESTful webservice written in Java.
I imagine it's pretty straightforward across the board - there are plenty of libraries for parsing/generating XML or JSON formatted messages, the iPhone can handle HTTP authentication, HTTPS, caching, etc.
It's just down to your iPhone developer to get it right :)
For SOAP based web services I strongly suggest that you try gSOAP. This library does not support Objective-C, however it supports C and C++ and is certainly the most complete open source project to access SOAP based web service; it also outperforms all of the other libraries.
For Objective-C you may want to try wsdl2objc, but I am not sure if it provides support for SSL/TLS (gSOAP does).
Finally, REST based web services are easily handled using ASIHTTPRequest.