I have an app that needs to upload a least 5 photos to a server using API call available with the server. For that I am planning to use threads which will take care of photo upload and the main process can go on with the navigation of views etc. What I cant decide is whether it is OK to spawn five separate threads in iphone or use a single thread that will do the upload. In the later cases obviously it will become quite slow.
Basically an HTTP POST request will be made to the server with the NSMutableURLRequest object using NSCOnnection.
More threads mean more complexity and sync issues, but I can try to write code as neat as possible if it means better performance than a single thread which is simple but is a real stopper if performance is considered.
Anybody with any experience in this kinda app. ??
I would suggest using one extra thread and queuing the uploads, one after the other. You'll end up clogging the network interfaces if you try 5 uploads concurrently. Remember that the iPhone will often be on a 3G or even EDGE connection, not always WiFi, so photo uploads can be really slow, and even slower if there are 5 at once.
You could probably benefit from using NSOperation and NSOperationQueue to nicely handle the ugly threading for you. Wrap up an upload process into an NSOperation, and then queue 5 of them for each image. Should work quite nicely.
Jasarien thanks for the bit on NSOperation and NSOperationQueue. It did simplyify in great measure. But right now I hve run into a major issue.
I spawn an extra thread from the main thread. This thread queues up each of the picture upload operation. So this thread queues up 5 picture opload operations in a queue. This is absolutely fine when working with Mac PC. Now when I push the app to the device, only one pic upload is successful and the rest fails. Most of the cases of failure are due to server time out error. So basically I am wondering, whether NSOperationQueue ensure only one operation at a time or not ? I mean if the first pic upload is in progress and say the next operation is already added in the queue. Would it create an extra thread for the second operation too while the first one is running ? I think as the name suggests, it must wait in the queue until the previous one is done. Not sure how to go abt doing it. I am uploading pic which are taken with iphone camera.
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In my app created NSOperationQueue of NSOperation to download multiple images in background.I wanted to know what will happen if network connection is lost while downloading data.Whether all those are operations which are still in queue are marked as finished and removed from queue or will remain in queue and again start downloading process when network is established again or something else?
Can anyone explain how NSOperationQueue works in such scenario?
Thanks in advance!
The current NSOperation will continue with whatever logic is left when it receives the failure signal, and then terminate as normal, causing the NSOperationQueue to begin running the next NSOperation. If the internet still isn't back, it'll fail as well, and will just keep moving through the queue whether the network re-connects or not, failing all the connections unless the network reconnects.
There's probably quite a few different ways to handle this, because there's a lot to consider. For instance, you could put some logic in your code to mark an NSOperation as unsuccessful if it fails due to a network drop-out, and re-add failed NSOperations back into the queue. However, what if the network stays down for ages? Would your implementation be okay to keep trying to download images forever, or should you only let it re-try a particular file download a few times before giving up until the next time that feature is used?
You could also use a series of network reachability checks, such as before an NSOperation is added to the queue, before the NSOperation itself launches the NSURLConnection, etc. Should it fail you could have the NSOperation wait around until the network is re-connected and continue. (It's not ideal to do that, but because you're running it on a background thread it won't freeze the app's interface for the user at least).
If you wanted to, you could even implement the functionality you asked about in your question. That is, upon a network drop-out, cancelling all remaining operations in the NSOperationQueue, informing the user they'll have to re-try when the net comes back on. Then the next time the feature is called, re-add all those remaining NSOperations.
I have a complex sync job that does several asyncronous calls for content over HTTP. Each time this content is received, it asks for the next bit and so on. These are all daisey-chained in a big over-all sync job with data on the server.
There are probably 12 steps in this job chain. It seems to get stuck after around the 5th async request, the request never comes back and it hangs for ever waiting for it. I think it may have to do with too many threads being spawned because if I fire off the one it hangs at at the beginning it returns fine.
In the way I imagine it in my head, the main thread asks for async content a. When it comes back in its own asynchronous time it spawns a new thread which then asks for aync content b. When it comes back in its own sweet time it spawns a new thread which then asks for content c. Isn't a new thread being created everytime an async request returns a result?
Am I daisy-chaining these requests right? I was quite good at threads in Java development but I'm a bit confused on how they work in Obj-C. Do I need to use a Thread pool of say 3 threads and reuse these?
Sorry for the high-level question but I'm sure some experts can help clear the cloud of mystery around this.
NSOperationQueues are built on top of Grand Central Dispatch. If you need precise control over order of operations and the ability to dispatch synchronous requests you might want to use GCD directly. Using either, you don't really need to worry about thread creation/management. You simply queue your operations as needed by your app.
The Apple docs are fine on this IMHO but you can find a number of tutorials out there.
[EDIT: added link to Apple docs]
http://developer.apple.com/library/ios/#documentation/General/Conceptual/ConcurrencyProgrammingGuide/Introduction/Introduction.html
I am new to objective-c/cocoa programming. I am making an application which is to constantly sync with a server and keep its view updated.
Now in a nutshell, heres what I thought of: Initiate an NSTimer to trigger every second or two, contact the server, if there is a change, update the view. Is this a good way of doing it?
I have read elsewhere that you can have a thread running in the background which monitors the changes and updates the view. I never worked with threads before and I know they can be quite troublesome and you need a good amount of experience with memory management to get most out of them.
I have one month to get this application done. What do you guys recommend? Just use an NSTimer and do it the way I though of...or learn multithreading and get it done that way (but keep in mind my time frame).
Thanks!
I think using separate thread in this case would be too much. You need to use threads when there is some task that runs for considerable amount of time and can freeze your app for some time.
In your case do this:
Create timer and call some method (say update) every N seconds.
in update send asynchronous request to server and check for any changes.
download data using NSURLConnection delegate and parse. Note: if there is probability that you can receive a huge amount of data from server and its processing can take much time (for example parsing of 2Mb of XML data) then you do need to perform that is a separate thread.
update all listeners (appropriate view controllers for example) with processed data.
continue polling using timer.
Think about requirements. The most relevant questions, IMO, are :
does your application have to get new data while running in background?
does your application need to be responsive, that is, not sluggish when it's fetching new data?
I guess the answer to the first question is probably no. If you are updating a view depending on the data, it's only required to fetch the data when the view is visible. You cannot guarantee always fetching data in background anyway, because iOS can always just kill your application. Anyway, in your application's perspective, multithreading is not relevant to this question. Because either you are updating only in foreground or also in background, your application need no more than one thread.
Multithreading is relevant rather to the second question. If your application has to remain responsive while fetching data, then you will have to run your fetching code on a detached thread. What's more important here is, the update on the user interface (like views) must happen on the main thread again.
Learning multithreading in general is something indeed, but iOS SDK provides a lot of help. Learning how to use operation queue (I guess that's the easiest to learn, but not necessarily the easiest to use) wouldn't take many days. In a month period, you can definitely finish the job.
Again, however, think clearly why you would need multithreading.
i am getting confused what is the difference between Synchronous NSUrlConnection and ASynchronous NSUrlConnection?is there Synchronous or ASynchronous? if we use detachNewThreadSelector in connectionDidFinishLoading method,is it
ASynchronous NSUrlConnection? which is the best way?any tutorial ...
Synchronous means that you trigger your NSURLConnection request and wait for it to be done.
Asynchronous means that you can trigger the request and do other stuff while NSURLConnection downloads data.
Which is "best"?
Synchronous is very straightforward: you set it up, fire it, and wait for the data to come back. But your application sits there and does nothing until all the data is downloaded, some error occurs, or the request times out. If you're dealing with anything more than a small amount of data, your user will sit there waiting, which will not make for a good user experience.
Asynchronous requires just a little more work, but your user can do other stuff while the request does its thing, which is usually preferable. You set up some delegate methods that let you keep track of data as it comes in, which is useful for tracking download progress. This approach is probably better for most usage cases.
You can do both synchronous and asynchronous requests with NSURLConnection. Apple's documentation provides a clear explanation of the two approaches and delegate methods required for the latter approach.
It seems that you're conflating synchronous/asynchronous connections and threading. In my app I used asynchronous connections as an alternative to threading.
Let's say you want to download a big file without causing the UI to freeze. You have two basic options:
Asynchronous connection. You start with + connectionWithRequest:delegate: (or one of the other non-autorelease options) and it downloads bits of the file, calling your delegate when interesting thing happen. The runloop is still going, so your UI stays responsive. Of course you have to be careful that your delegate don't go out of scope.
Synchronous. You start the connection with + sendSynchronousRequest:returningResponse:error: but the code waits until the download is complete. You'll really need to spawn a new thread (or one of the higher level threading operations that Cocoa supports) or the UI will block.
Which option is "best" or the least painful will depend on the architecture of your application and what you're trying to achieve. If you need to create a thread for a long running process anyway, you might go with the second option. In general I would say the first option is easiest.
It's all pretty well documented on Apple's Developer site.
Something which hasn't been mentioned in the other responses is the size of the request. If you're downloading a large file, for example, then using an asynchronous connection is better. Your delegate will receive blocks of data as they arrive. In comparison, the synchronous method will wait for all the data before making it available to you. The delegate can start processing the response sooner (better user experience), or save save it to a file instead of memory (better resource usage). You also have the option to stop the response without waiting for all the data.
Basically, the asynchronous method gives you more control over the connection but at the cost of complexity. The synchronous method is much simpler, but shouldn't be used on the main UI thread because it blocks.
In response to the other answers regarding the file size: I think file size doesn't matter. If the server responds really slowly and you're loading data synchronous your UI still freezes, even if you're loading a small amount of data, like 3k.
So I'd go for the asynchronous option in every situation, cause you never know what you're going to get with regards to file size, server responsiveness or network speeds.
I have some slow internet task to save and load file, I'd like to do those slow tasks in some background thread. I am wondering whether that's doable, and if it is, any sample code?
Then after it is finished, I'd like it to notice back to the main thread, so that I could update the UI.
Take a look at NSURLConnection. It will load an NSURL (using NSURLRequest) in the background, and send delegate methods regarding its status.
Ultimately the device you are running your code on has a single processor and cannot possibly load large quantities (gigabytes) of data. The best route, by is likely that suggested by Ben (NSURLConnection asynchronously) which gives you the added advantage of being able to cleanly cancel and handle error messages. While it isn't technically threaded in the way you probably think you want it to be, it is well integrated with the event loop and is non-blocking. If that is still not enough, I would suggest looking at NSOperation and NSOperationQueue. You can fire off an NSOperation sub-class object and perform the download there (I would still advise doing it asynchronously there so as to enable canceling, pausing, etc).
Log in to the iPhone Developer Center and search for Introduction to Threading Programming. Or, maybe you can log in and use this link:
http://developer.apple.com/iphone/library/documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/Multithreading/Introduction/chapter_1_section_1.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/10000057i-CH1-SW1
If you do decide you need a background thread even after using asynchronous HTTP calls to gather the data, don't forget to wrap the background thread code in a new NSAutoReelasePool and then release it at the end.