We are using JBoss 4.2 GA, and need use a newest version in some new project.
I heard that JBoss 5.0 encounter such bugs... is this correct?
If not, which exact version of 5.0 to use?? and what about 6.0??
Thanks.
JBoss AS 5.1 is perfectly fine. Every app server has bugs, they're big, complex applications in themselves, but 5.1 is solid.
JBoss AS 6 hasn't been released yet, it's still in beta.
Jboss Application Server 7 is released, and up to a beta version of 7.1.0. You can download a copy here, and find the Getting Started Guides here.
As with any major revision of an application server, there are significant changes that might impact upon your business and will need to be considered in the context of your use case. Being an open source project, the early praise and early bugs are in the public arena, so it is easy to research for yourself.
Working on a documentation project involving AS7 I have seen some of the great work that the team has undertaken, and I couldn't imagine going back to a previous version now I've enjoyed the fast boot-up times, the ease of application deployment, custom configuration and the powerful Management CLI.
These kinds of improvements and features, not just constrained to JBoss Application Server or JBoss Enterprize Application Platform, speak volumes about the speed, stability and usability that will be increasing exponentially in this field for all competitors over the coming years. I'd urge you to check out the current generation of application servers if your experience is largely with JBoss AS 4.2.
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JBoss Application Platform has 2 distributions, a community and an enterprise release, community releases are like Beta releases of enterprise releases, JBoss 7.0 is then actually EAP 6 beta 1, 7.0.1 is beta 2, 7.1.0 is beta 3 and 7.1.1 is rc 1.
What happens with JBoss AS 7.1.2 and 7.1.3? this is a very informative link: http://henk53.wordpress.com/2013/01/09/the-curious-case-of-jboss-as-7-1-2-and-7-1-3/
So my question is: Can I use JBoss EAP 6 without a support license?
Downloads are available from access.redhat.com/downloads, from which you have to click on "Evaluations and Demos", and then on "JBoss Enterprise Application Platform Evaluation".
I have read that JBoss EAP is still open source and you can use it freely, but only if you compile it from source, which is not an easy task nor they want it to be.
So if I use in production the version I have downloaded from "Evaluations and Demos", is this illegal?
TLDR; yes, you can use without a support subscription, but no, if you just download the latest EAP binary, you're not allowed to use it in production.
Three cases here to consider how you can run JBoss EAP without a support subscription, two of which also allow production use:
1. Development use
You can use any JBoss EAP binary version for development purposes without a paid subscription. You won't get patches or support that way, and you can't run it in production. From "Downloads for Development Use":
To download JBoss EAP you must have an account. You also need to
accept the terms and conditions of the JBoss Developer Program which
provides $0 subscriptions for development use only.
2. EAP 6.x alpha versions
All alpha versions, such as JBoss EAP 6.1 Alpha, are free to use in any way or form, also in production. From this message:
The 6.1 Alpha binary is made available for free (both for development
and production use) to the entire community.
And this thread:
This development restriction, however, does not apply to EAP alpha
releases. EAP alpha releases may be ran in production if you so
desire. As to their quality, 6.1.0.Alpha is of equivalent quality to a
community final release. However, the Alpha is where the extensive
testing and hardening begins, so we recommend GA or later for
production if you are interested in using EAP.
This is also confirmed by entry in JBoss FAQ, saying
Q: If EAP 6.1.0.Alpha is the same as community 7.2.0.Final, why is it
called Alpha? A: EAP has a much more conservative and rigid release
hardening process, including extensive quality testing and partner
certification. Historically every EAP release starts from our most
recent community final, and then releases in stages as this hardening
work is performed. The first EAP stage Alpha is of equivalent, or
better, quality to a community Final release.
Q. Are there any restrictions on how I can use EAP 6.1.0 Alpha? A. No
– it has the same license and terms as AS releases however as it's an
Alpha release we don't recommend using it in production.
And these two redhat knowledgebase articles confirming that EAP 6.3.Alpha is also available for all to run in production (only visible for paid subscribers):
"Red Hat JBoss EAP 6.3 Alpha Availability"
"Using JBoss EAP alpha version in production without support subscription"
Edit: and now John Doyle, Senior Manager responsible for Red Hat JBoss EAP 6, confirmed that
The earlier statements about EAP 6.1 Alpha apply to all EAP 6 Alpha
releases. They can be run in production.
3. Self-compiled versions
EAPs are also available as source distributions, and if you compile them yourself, removing any Red Hat trademarks, it should be legal to run them in production. Of course, you are completely on your own on supporting them. To make compiling easier, there is a script on this github account, and using that script building your own EAP is as easy as
git clone git://github.com/hasalex/eap-build.git
cd eap-build
./build-eap.sh
See the project readme for details. There's also extended discussion on one of its issues about the legal status of the build, which refers to statement by Jason Greene, WildFly project lead, saying one of the ways to legally use the product is
Self build and support EAP - You get some of the benefits of the enterprise releases (e.g. patches to older major versions and so on),
but you have to invest time and energy to build and maintain/verify
your app server distribution bits.
I think the answer is: sort of. You can obtain the binary version of the latest JBoss EAP 6.1.0.Alpha if you agree to a $0 developer license and agree to use it only for development purposes. You do not get patches or support, however.
Also, it's open sourced under the LGPL in which case you don't have to agree to anything beyond the LGPL. But then the trick is getting the source. And you won't be getting the patched source. An important consideration here is that the binary package is configured carefully (e.g. with respect to security defaults) whereas you're on your own if you compile it from available source.
Bottom line: buy a license if you are using it for any important commercial purpose so as not to be at some arbitrary fixed point in the source's evolution.
Red Hatter here. If you use JBOSS binaries, they are Red Hat Intellectual Property. You have to have a Red Hat subscription to use the software which may be $0 cost (developer use only) or more depending on what are your needs and/or subscription compliance (non-developer use like non-production or production).
Please see http://www.jboss.org/terms-and-conditions/ for the details.
Answer to original question "Can I use JBoss EAP 6 without a support license?":
According to official "Subscription Guide for Red Hat JBoss Middleware" dated Sept. 2015 (https://www.redhat.com/en/resources/subscription-guide-red-hat-jboss-middleware) you are allowed to use JBoss EAP 6 without support license only in following cases:
a) Environments only used by one person like a developer, testcase developer, architect
b) Developer desktops/ laptops or
c) Single-user development instances on a server (physical or virtual)
So you have to pay subscription for Test/QA and Production environments.
PS: price for support licence for "EAP Platform" is mentioned in comparison calculator - https://www.redhat.com/en/eap-calculator
PS2: There is a project with scripts custom building of JBoss EAP - https://github.com/hasalex/eap-build
I have a Java web app (WAR) that requires an older (1.5.11) version of the JRE, but am on Linux and spent a good deal of time setting up my environment for 1.6.34.
The web app needs to be hosted locally on JBoss (4.0.4 GA), which I have no experience with. I'm wondering if it is possible to download the 1.5.11 version of the JDK and configure things so that my JBoss instance is the only thing on my system that is using it. This way I don't need to worry about blowing out any of my other configs for 1.6.34.
If it is possible, what are the general steps and what are the JBoss configs I need to make? Thanks in advance.
Of course this is possible. You can install as many java versions as you like and make sure path/JAVA_HOME is set up correctly for each process you want to launch.
in JBOSS_HOME/bin/run.conf you can specify your 1.5 JAVA_HOME.
But if you are talking about serious business, you should get somebody (like your software supplier) to upgrade. 1.5.11 is superold and unsupported. and JBoss 4.0.4 is equally old and even less supported.
I'm currently testing Memcached in a Windows machine and we are planning to use it in production while Microsoft Velocity is still in CTP. It is running well so I believe that Memcached for Windows will do well when our site is already in production. I'm reading some blogs pertaining to this issue and some of them just mentioned that it must not yet be used in production.
If there are issues, please tell why? And please, if you have any links about this matter, just post it here. Thanks.
There is no official release of memcached on Windows. We're working on it right now, but unless you're pulling from a dev branch or you've downloaded a pre-release, you've definitely got an unsupported version with a large number of bugs and missing features from the last couple of years.
I've been using memcached in production for several years now (since early 2008). We're currently using a 12-instance cluster and it absolutely hums. I would recommend memcached any day of the week.
Hello all,
Can anyone tell me which IDE I can use to do development towards WAS 7.0?
Please help me out with the answer very soon. I have checked Netbeans 6.5 beta and it does not have the support for it. Also on the MyEclipse Blue Edition page it says Compatible with WebSphere 5.x, 6.0, 6.1, 7, but in http://www.myeclipseide.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&p=98487 I see "WebSphere Application Server V7.0 is not supported by MyEclipse at the moment. Thats the reasons you guys are running into issues."
Anyone please help me out with this issue ASAP.
IBM Rational Application Developer 7.5
If you want proper support for WAS, you should be using the Rational toolset. RAD/RSA and their brethren are optimized for Websphere (as you'd expect given they're both from IBM).
You can do it with baseline Eclipse (I'd use the "real" Eclipse rather than myeclipse) but the easiest set up will be with Rational. You may not want to spend the money however.
It's well worth the cost, since it comes bundled with WAS test environments and can deploy automatically to other WAS instances (for example, system test environments).
RAD 7.5 supports WAS 7 so I'd go for that one. RAD 7 only supports up to WAS 6.1.
See Compare Eclipse Packages for a nice chart
As far as i know the EAP editions of JBoss Application Server (AS) are just a bunch of community edition JBoss projects with some sugar.
So, what is the community edition of the JBoss Application Server that JBoss EAP 4.3.0 corresponds to?
This response is really late but I came across the unanswered question in a Google search and I wanted to make sure there's a correct response. I work for JBoss support so you can consider this a qualified answer.
JBoss EAP is the only commercially supported version of JBoss. It contains JBoss AS and JBoss Seam. EAP diverged (in terms of the svn branch it's built off) from JBoss AS around version 4.2.1 (not exactly, but close enough). EAP has a 5-year lifetime and is tested and certified rigorously. EAP has paid commercial support and patches (called CPs or cumulative patches) that are designed to maintain ABI/API stability over time while allowing for security issues and bugs to be fixed. It is actually against policy to introduce a feature in a CP, but it happens on occasion.
If you're familiar with how Red Hat Enterprise Linux differs from Fedora, you can consider the difference to be quite similar. The JBoss project/product split is much newer, though, so the differences are smaller. Here's the official page describing what I've said.
http://www.jboss.com/products/community-enterprise
Cheers,
Chris
According to JBoss Enterprise Application Platform Component Details, JBoss EAP 4.3 is based on:
JBoss Application Server 4.2.1 with various updates, component upgrades, and bug fixes
The primary difference between EAP and the community release is that EAP is the officially supported configuration of the community edition, with fixed versions of the various components. RedHat was finding it too difficult to support the different component versions used by man+dog, and nailed it down to one set.
As for versioning, the EAP version numbers roughly track the community releases, but with differences:
EAP 4.2 is based on JBossAS 4.2
EAP 4.3 is also based on JBossAS 4.2.1, but with JBossMQ replaced by JBossMessaging, and Java6 support
EAP 5.0 is based on JBossAS 5.1
EAP 5.1 also seems to be based on JBossAS 5.1, with some cumulative patches
Edit:
EAP 6.x is based on JBoss Application Server 7.x
I've been digging into JBoss version information to try and find an answer to a more specific question i'm dealing with, and i thought i'd share my observations. You can get a picture of the names and dates of releases from JBoss's JIRA bug tracker: you can check out the info for the Community and Enterprise editions.
I was interested in the 4.2 branch rather than 4.3. If you hunt back a few years, you'll find that the Community release 4.2.0.GA came out on the 14th of May 2007, and was followed six weeks later by the Enterprise release 4.2.0.GA on the 3rd of July 2007. After that, the numbering diverged: the Community edition shipped point upgrades - 4.2.1.GA, 4.2.2.GA and 4.2.3.GA - every few months after that. The Enterprise edition instead shipped a series of 'cumulated patch' releases based on 4.2.0, starting with 4.2.0.GA_CP01 and hitting 4.2.0.GA_CP06 a few months ago. How do these releases relate to each other? I'm still not sure about this, but i think the theory is that the Enterprise edition doesn't gain any new features (within that branch), only bugfixes, but that those bugfixes are applied to both the Enterprise and Community editions. In fact, i suspect that in the case of my bug10, the fix was developed against the Community edition, and then crossported to the Enterprise edition, although i'm far from sure about that.
Turning back to your actual question, things are less clear. The Enterprise 4.3.0.GA came out on the 7th of January 2008, after the Community 4.2.2.GA, but before 4.2.3.GA. There is no Community 4.3.0, nor is there an Enterprise 4.2.x for any x > 0. Chris says that the Enterprise and Community versions "diverged", and i assume that what he means by that is that the Enterprise version is no longer based on just bugfixing a Community version, but rather is now an entirely separate development stream - presumably taking code drops from the Community edition where that's appropriate.
So, the answer to your question is some combination of: 4.2.2.GA (but only distantly), 4.2.0.GA (plus years of separate development), and mu.
While JBoss AS / Wildfly is really the basis for JBoss EAP, it's definitely not just "some sugar" what is added.
EAP is what went through an extensive testing and many many bug and security issues are fixed.
More, EAP is usually also faster after going though a period of performance tests, soak testing, and code analysis.
Also, EAP artefacts (jars) are all built by Red Hat, i.e. Red Hat is responsible for whatever is in them - i.e. you don't get whatever anyone puts in the central repo or whichever other repo you may have configured in your settings.xml (in case you build your own AS). Many of these third-party libraries are changed - CVE's fixed, performance issues addressed etc.
And lastly, EAP is way better in terms of features. For example, last 7.x release of JBoss AS is 7.1.1, year-and-something old, while EAP 6.1 is about a month old, and is way better in regards of manageability, stability, configurability etc. There is a several hundreds of commits difference between those two.
So, stating that "JBoss EAP X is based on JBoss AS Y" may be true, but at the same time misleading.
Check the EAP 6.1.