I have a simple TCP socket client and server application. They are communicating using IP = localhost and port = 33367.
I'm using SocketSniff to examine my packets going through localhost. While sniffing the client app, I noticed that every time I'm sending a packet to the server in the same process, the "local port" is changing, while remote port is always 33367.
So, is it possible for the client apps to send their data through a fixed port (if so, how in C#?) or do they have to get assigned a different port each time?
You can bind the socket before calling connect.
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I have set up a client and a server using sockets in python where my client sends data to the server, servers performs an operation, then returns some data to the client. Originally both the client and server were to have the same port number (9999). My issue currently is that I have to change the port of the server to 19999, and when I try to run, it does not work. The client is able to send data if its port is also changed to 19999, but it does not work if client is 9999 and server is 19999, which is what I need. New to networking systems so would appreciate any useful links to information or advice.
pic of client (left) and server (right)
Normally, clients will use an ephemeral port for its local port, and connect to the server port. Your client code is attempting to connect to port 9999, which is not the server port, which explains why it is not working. You need to connect to port 19999, since that is the port the server is listening on.
Using an unbound socket causes the client to choose an ephemeral port for its local address when making a connection. If you want the client to bind to a specific port, use bind before you call connect.
# bind locally to 9999
local_addr = (host, 9999)
s.bind(local_addr)
# connect to 19999
remote_addr = (host, 19999)
s.connect(remote_addr)
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The post here In UNIX forum describes
The server will keep on listeninig on a port number.
The server will accept a clients connect() request using accept(). As soon as the server accepts the client request, the kernel allocates a random port number for the server for further send() and receive(), since the same port number on the server can't be used for sending as well as listening, and the previous port is still listening for new connections
QUESTION
I have a server application S which is constantly listening on port 18333 (this is actually bitcoind testnet). When another client node C connects with it on say 53446 (random port). According to the above post, S will be able to send/receive data of 'C' only from port 53446.
But when I run a bitcoind testnet. This perfectly communicates with other node with only one socket connection in port 18333 without need for another for sending/receiving. Below is snippet and I even verified this
bitcoin-cli -testnet -rpcport=16591 -datadir=/home/user/mytest/1/
{
"id": 1,
"addr": "178.32.61.149:18333"
}
Can anyone help me understand what is the right working in TCP socket connection?
A TCP connection is identified by a socket pair and this is uniquely identified by 4 parameters :
source ip
source port
dest ip
dest port
For every connection that is established to a server the socket is basically cloned and the same port is being used. So for every connection you have a socket using the same server port. So you have n+1 socket using the same port when there are n connections.
The TCP kernel is able to make distinction between all these sockets and connections because the socket is either in the listening state, or it belongs to the socket pair where all 4 parameters are considered.
Your second bullet is therefore wrong because the same port is being used as i explained above.
The server will accept a clients connect() request using accept(). As
soon as the server accepts the client request, the kernel allocates a
random port number for the server for further send() and receive().
On normal TCP traffic this is not the case. If a webserver is listening on port 80, all packets sent back to the client wil be over server port 80 (this can be verified with WireShark for example) - but there will be a different socket for each connection (srcIP:port - dstIP:port). That information is sent in the headers of the network packets - IP and protocol code (TCP, UDP or other) in the IP header, port numbers as part of the TCP or UDP header).
But changing ports can happen when communicating over ftp, where there can be a control port (ususally 21) and a negotiated data port.
Usually a web server is listening to any incoming connection through port 80. So, my question is that shouldn't it be that in general concept of socket programming is that port 80 is for listen for incoming connection. But then after the server accepted the connection, it will use another port e.g port 12345 to communicate with the client. But, when I look into the wireshark, the server is always using port 80 during the communication. I am confused here.
So what if https://www.facebook.com:443, it has hundreds of thousands of connection to the it at a second. Is it possible for a single port to handle such a large amount of traffic?
A particular socket is uniquely identified by a 5-tuple (i.e. a list of 5 particular properties.) Those properties are:
Source IP Address
Destination IP Address
Source Port Number
Destination Port Number
Transport Protocol (usually TCP or UDP)
These parameters must be unique for sockets that are open at the same time. Where you're probably getting confused here is what happens on the client side vs. what happens on the server side in TCP. Regardless of the application protocol in question (HTTP, FTP, SMTP, whatever,) TCP behaves the same way.
When you open a socket on the client side, it will select a random high-number port for the new outgoing connection. This is required, otherwise you would be unable to open two separate sockets on the same computer to the same server. Since it's entirely reasonable to want to do that (and it's very common in the case of web servers, such as having stackoverflow.com open in two separate tabs) and the 5-tuple for each socket must be unique, a random high-number port is used as the source port. However, each of those sockets will connect to port 80 at stackoverflow.com's webserver.
On the server side of things, stackoverflow.com can already distinguish between those two different sockets from your client, again, because they already have different client-side port numbers. When it sees an incoming request packet from your browser, it knows which of the sockets it has open with you to respond to because of the different source port number. Similarly, when it wants to send a response packet to you, it can send it to the correct endpoint on your side by setting the destination port number to the client-side port number it got the request from.
The bottom line is that it's unnecessary for each client connection to have a separate port number on the server's side because the server can already uniquely identify each client connection by its client IP address and client-side port number. This is the way TCP (and UDP) sockets work regardless of application-layer protocol.
shouldn't it be that in general concept of socket programming is that port 80 is for listen for incoming connection. But then after the server accepted the connection, it will use another port e.g port 12345 to communicate with the client.
No.
But, when I look into the wireshark, the server is always using port 80 during the communication.
Yes.
I am confused here.
Only because your 'general concept' isn't correct. An accepted socket uses the same local port as the listening socket.
So what if https://www.facebook.com:443, it has hundreds of thousands of connection to the it at a second. Is it possible for a single port to handle such a large amount of traffic?
A port is only a number. It isn't a physical thing. It isn't handling anything. TCP is identifying connections based on the tuple {source IP, source port, target IP, target port}. There's no problem as long as the entire tuple is unique.
Ports are a virtual concept, not a hardware ressource, it's no harder to handle 10 000 connection on 1 port than 1 connection each on 10 000 port (it's probably much faster even)
Not all servers are web servers listening on port 80, nor do all servers maintain lasting connections. Web servers in particular are stateless.
Your suggestion to open a new port for further communication is exactly what happens when using the FTP protocol, but as you have seen this is not necessary.
Ports are not a physical concept, they exist in a standardised form to allow multiple servers to be reachable on the same host without specialised multiplexing software. Such software does still exist, but for entirely different reasons (see: sshttp). What you see as a response from the server on port 80, the server sees as a reply to you on a not-so-random port the OS assigned your connection.
When a server listening socket accepts a TCP request in the first time ,the function such as Socket java.net.ServerSocket.accept() will return a new communication socket whoes port number is the same as the port from java.net.ServerSocket.ServerSocket(int port).
Here are the screen shots.
If a client listens on a socket, at http://socketplaceonnet.com for example, how does it know that there is new content? I assume the server cannot send data directly to the client, as the client could be behind a router, with no port forwarding so a direct connection is not possible. The client could be a mobile phone which changes it's IP address. I understand that for the client to be a listener, the server doesn't need to know the client's IP.
Thank you
A client socket does not listen for incoming connections, it initiates an outgoing connection to the server. The server socket listens for incoming connections.
A server creates a socket, binds the socket to an IP address and port number (for TCP and UDP), and then listens for incoming connections. When a client connects to the server, a new socket is created for communication with the client (TCP only). A polling mechanism is used to determine if any activity has occurred on any of the open sockets.
A client creates a socket and connects to a remote IP address and port number (for TCP and UDP). A polling mechanism can be used (select(), poll(), epoll(), etc) to monitor the socket for information from the server without blocking the thread.
In the case that the client is behind a router which provides NAT (network address translation), the router re-writes the address of the client to match the router's public IP address. When the server responds, the router changes its public IP address back into the client's IP address. The router keeps a table of the active connections that it is translating so that it can map the server's responses to the correct client.
The TCP Iterative server accepts a client's connection, then processes it, completes all requests from the client,
and disconnects. The TCP iteration server can only process one client's request at a time. Only when all the
requests of the client are satisfied, the server can continue the subsequent requests. If one client occupies the
server, other clients can't work, so TCP servers seldom use the iterated server model.
After many hours, I have discovered that the given udp server needs the following steps for a successful communication:
1- Send "Start Message" on a given port
2- Wait to receive from server on any port
3- Then the port dedicated to you to send further data to the server equals the port you have received on it + 1
So I am asking if this kind is a known protocol/handshaking, or it is only special to this server??
PS: All above communication were in udp sockets in C#
PS: Related to a previous question: About C# UDP Sockets
Thanks
There's no special "handshake" for UDP -- each UDP service, if it needs one, specifies its own. Usually, though, a server doesn't expect the client to be able to listen on all of its ports simultaneously. If you mean that the client expects a message from any port on the server, to the port the client sent the start message from, then that makes a lot more sense -- and is very close to how TFTP works. (The only difference i'm seeing so far, is that TFTP doesn't do the "+ 1".)
The server is, effectively, listening on a 'well known port' and then switching subsequent communications to a dedicated port per client. Requiring the client to send to the port + 1 is a little strange
Client 192.168.0.1 - port 12121 ------------------------> Server 192.168.0.2 - port 5050
Client 192.168.0.1 - port 12121 <------------------------ Server 192.168.0.2 - port 23232
Client 192.168.0.1 - port 12121 ------------------------> Server 192.168.0.2 - port 23232 + 1
<------------------------ Server 192.168.0.2 - port 23232
------------------------> Server 192.168.0.2 - port 23232 + 1
The server probably does this so that it doesn't have to demultiplex the inbound client data based on the client's address/port. Doing it this way is a little more efficient (generally) and also has some advantages, depending on the design of the server, as on the server there's a 'dedicated' socket for you which means that if they're doing overlapped I/O then the socket stays the same for the whole period of communications with you which can make it easier and more efficient to associate data with the socket (this way they can probably avoid any lookups or locking to process each datagram). Anyway, enough of that (see here, if you want to know why I do it that way).
From your point of view as a client (and I'm assuming async sockets here) you need to first Bind() your local socket (just use INADDR_ANY and 0 to allow the OS to pick the port for you) then issue a RecvFrom() on the socket (so there's no race between you sending data to the server on this socket and it sending you data back before you issue a recv). Then issue a SendTo() to the 'well known port' of the server. The server will then send you back some data and your RecvFrom() will return you the data and the address that the server sent to you from. You can then take that address, add one to the port, store that address and from then on issue SendTo()s to that new sending address whilst continuing to issue RecvFrom()s for reading the server's data; or you could do something clever with Connect() to bind the remote end of the socket to the server's 'send to address' and simply use Write() and RecvFrom() from then on.