or when index larger then RAM?
Yes it can work. To what level it will perform is more of an "It Depends"
The key thing is to ensure your working set can fit in RAM. So if you have 16GB of RAM and 20GB database (inc. indexes) for example, if you need to only access half of all the data as the other half is older/never actually queried then you'll be fine as only half of your database needs to be in RAM (10GB).
Working set is key here. For example, if you have a logging application outputting to MongoDB, it may be that your working set is the amount of data (and indexes) from the past 3 months and that all data before that you don't access.
When your working set exceeds the amount of RAM, then it will carry on working but with noticeably degraded performance as things will then be constantly having to go to disk which is far less performant. If you're in this situation of exceeding RAM constraints on a machine, then this is where sharding comes into play - so you can balance the data out over a number of machines therefore increasing the amount of data that can be kept in RAM.
Nicely explained here: http://blog.boxedice.com/2010/12/13/mongodb-monitoring-keep-in-it-ram/
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Say I have a single collection in mongodb with only one index, and I require the index for the entire life cycle of the application using that mongo collection.
I would like to know about the behaviour of mongodb.
In this case once the index is loaded into memory, will mongodb keep it in the ram?
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The first thing MongoDB will knock out of RAM will be the LRU (least recently used) piece of data. So if you only have one index, chances are it will continue to be used pretty regularly and it should stay in memory.
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Unfortunately you cannot currently pin a collection or index in memory. MongoDB uses memory mapped files to load collections and indexes into memory. As your activities touch various pieces of your database thru queries, updates, insertions and deletions, that data will get loaded into memory. This is referred to as the working set. If the total memory required to load the working set is less than available memory, no problem.
If not, MongoDB is going to use an LRU algorithm to pick what to unload from memory. This is why it's so important to understand the concept of the working set and how it relates to your available memory.
This writeup from the documentation should be helpful:
How do I calculate how much RAM I need for my application?
The amount of RAM you need depends on several factors, including but
not limited to:
The relationship between database storage and working set.
The operating system’s cache strategy for LRU (Least Recently Used)
The impact of journaling
The number or rate of page faults and other MMS gauges to detect when you need more RAM
Each database connection thread will need up to 1 MB of RAM. MongoDB
defers to the operating system when loading data into memory from
disk. It simply memory maps all its data files and relies on the
operating system to cache data. The OS typically evicts the
least-recently-used data from RAM when it runs low on memory. For
example if clients access indexes more frequently than documents, then
indexes will more likely stay in RAM, but it depends on your
particular usage.
To calculate how much RAM you need, you must calculate your working
set size, or the portion of your data that clients use most often.
This depends on your access patterns, what indexes you have, and the
size of your documents. Because MongoDB uses a thread per connection
model, each database connection also will need up to 1MB of RAM,
whether active or idle.
If page faults are infrequent, your working set fits in RAM. If fault
rates rise higher than that, you risk performance degradation. This is
less critical with SSD drives than with spinning disks.
http://docs.mongodb.org/manual/faq/diagnostics/
You can use the serverStatus command to get an estimate of your current working set:
db.runCommand( { serverStatus: 1, workingSet: 1 } )
At the moment we run a MongoDB Replicaset containing 2 Servers + 1 Arbiter.
And we store about 150 GB of data in the databases on the replicaset.
Right now we are thinking about when to start with sharding. Because we are wondering if there is a point where you can't start sharding anymore.
It is obvious that we would have to start sharding before we run out of hard disk space, our cpu is overloaded or the overall performance goes down because of too little RAM.
Somebody also told me that there is a limit of 256 GB data size after which you can't start sharding anymore. Also I read the official documentation http://docs.mongodb.org/manual/sharding/ and "MongoDB the definitive guide", I could not proove that.
From your experience is there a limit where you should have started with sharding ?
I would start sharding when you hit about 60-70% resource utilisation. This could be both hard disk space and RAM. The 256 GB limit is indeed there, it's documented at http://docs.mongodb.org/manual/reference/limits/#Sharding%20Existing%20Collection%20Data%20Size
I have found the limit to be based on reads/writes; afterall sharding is about increasing capacity, mainly writes, while replica sets being more concerned with reads. However, using separate servers (nodes) for ranges of data (shard key) can help reads too so it does have a knock on effect for both.
For example you could be only using 40% of your current servers memory with your current working set but due to the amount of writes being sent to that single server you could actually be seeing speed problems due to IO. At this time you would take sharding into account.
So really I would personally say, and this question is heavily opinion based, that you should shard when you feel as though you need more capacity for operations than is cost effective for a single replica set.
I have known of single replica setups that can take what, normally, an entire cluster would but it depends on how big your budget is. As a computer gets bigger it gets more expensive.
I have a sharded cluster in 3 systems.
While inserting I get the error message:
cant map file memory-mongo requires 64 bit build for larger datasets
I know that 32 bit machine have a limit size of 2 gb.
I have two questions to ask.
The 2 gb limit is for 1 system, so the total data will be, 6gb as my sharding is done in 3 systems. So it would be only 2 gb or 6 gb?
While sharding is done properly, all the data are stored in single system in spite of distributing data in all the three sharded system?
Does Sharding play any role in increasing the datasize limit?
Does chunk size play any vital role in performance?
I would not recommend you do anything with 32bit MongoDB beyond running it on a development machine where you perhaps cannot run 64bit. Once you hit the limit the file becomes unuseable.
The documentation states "Use 64 bit for production. This is important as if you hit the mmap size limit (exact limit varies but less than 2GB) you will be unable to write to the database (analogous to a disk full condition)."
Sharding is all about scaling out your data set across multiple nodes so in answer to your question, yes you have increased the possible size of your data set. Remember though that namespaces and indexes also take up space.
You haven't specified where your mongos resides??? Where are you seeing the error from - a mongod or the mongos? I suspect that it's the mongod. I believe that you need to look at pre-splitting the chunks - http://docs.mongodb.org/manual/administration/sharding/#splitting-chunks.
which would seem to indicate that all your data is going to the one mongod.
If you have a mongos, what does sh.status() return? Are chunks spread across all mongod's?
For testing, I'd recommend a chunk size of 1mb. In production, it's best to stick with the default of 64mb unless you've some really important reason why you don't want the default and you really know what you are doing. If you have too small of a chunk size, then you will be performing splits far too often.
I'm using MongoDB on a 32 bit production system, which sucks but it's out of my control right now. The challenge is to keep the memory usage under ~2.5GB since going over this will cause 32 bit systems to crash.
According to the mongoDB team, the best way to track the memory usage is to use your operating system's process tracking system (i.e. ps or htop on Unix systems; Process Explorer on Windows.) for virtual memory size.
The DB mainly consists of one table which is continually cycling data, i.e. receiving data at regular intervals from sensors, and every day a cron job wipes all data from before the last 3 days. Over a period of time, the memory usage slowly increases. I took some notes over time using db.serverStats(), db.lectura.totalSize() and ps, shown in the chart below. Note that the size of the table in question has reduced in the last month but the memory usage increased nonetheless.
Now, there is some scope for adjustment in how many days of data I store. Today I deleted basically half of the data, and then restarted mongodb, and yet the mem virtual / mem mapped and most importantly memory usage according to ps have hardly changed! Why do these not reduce when I wipe data (and restart)? I read some other questions where people said that mongo isn't really using all the memory that it might appear to be using, and that you can't clear the cache or limit memory use. But then how can I ensure I stay under the 2.5GB limit?
Unless there is a way to stem this dataset-size-irrespective gradual increase in memory usage, it seems to me that the 32-bit version of Mongo is unuseable. Note: I don't mind losing a bit of performance if it solves the problem.
To answer regarding why the mapped and virtual memory usage does not decrease with the deletes, the mapped number is actually what you get when you mmap() the entire set of data files. This does not shrink when you delete records, because although the space is freed up inside the data files, they are not themselves reduced in size - the files are just more empty afterwards.
Virtual will include journal files, and connections, and other non-data related memory usage also, but the same principle applies there. This, and more, is described here:
http://www.mongodb.org/display/DOCS/Checking+Server+Memory+Usage
So, the 2GB storage size limitation on 32-bit will actually apply to the data files whether or not there is data in them. To reclaim deleted space, you will have to run a repair. This is a blocking operation and will require the database to be offline/unavailable while it was run. It will also need up to 2x the original size in terms of free disk space to be able to run the repair, since it essentially represents writing out the files again from scratch.
This limitation, and the problems it causes, is why the 32-bit version should not be run in production, it is just not suitable. I would recommend getting onto a 64-bit version as soon as possible.
By the way, neither of these figures (mapped or virtual) actually represents your resident memory usage, which is what you really want to look at. The best way to do this over time is via MMS, which is the free monitoring service provided by 10gen - it will graph virtual, mapped and resident memory for you over time as well as plenty of other stats.
If you want an immediate view, run mongostat and check out the corresponding memory columns (res, mapped, virtual).
In general, when using 64-bit builds with essentially unlimited storage, the data will usually greatly exceed the available memory. Therefore, mongod will use all of the available memory it can in terms of resident memory (which is why you should always have swap configured to the OOM Killer does not come into play).
Once that is used, the OS does not stop allocating memory, it will just have the oldest items paged out to make room for the new data (LRU). In other words, the recycling of memory will be done for you, and the resident memory level will remain fairly constant.
Your options for stretching 32-bit are limited, but you can try some things. The thing that you run out of is address space, and the increases in the sizes of additional database files mean that you would like to avoid crossing over the boundary from "n" files to "n+1". It may be worth structuring your data into more or fewer databases so that you can get the maximum amount of actual data into memory and as little as possible "dead space".
For example, if your database named "mydatabase" consists of the files mydatabase.ns (the namespace file) at 16 MB, mydatabase.0 at 64 MB, mydatabase.1 at 128 MB and mydatabase.2 at 256 MB, then the next file created for this database will be mydatabase.3 at 512 MB. If instead of adding to mydatabase you instead created an additional database "mynewdatabase" it would start life with mynewdatabase.ns at 16 MB and mynewdatabase.0 at 64 MB ... quite a bit smaller than the 512 MB that adding to the original database would be. In fact, you could create 4 new databases for less space than would be consumed by adding a new file to the original database, and because the files are smaller they would be easier to fit into contiguous blocks of memory.
It is a well-known message that 32-bit should not be used for production.
Use 64-bit systems.
Point.
I am considering developing an application with a Cassandra backend. I am hoping that I will be able to run each cassandra node on commodity hardware with the following specs:
Quad Core 2GHz i7 CPU
2x 750GB disk drives
16 GB installed RAM
Now, I have been reading online that the available disk-space for Cassandra should be double the amount that is stored on the disks, which would mean that each node (set up in a RAID-1 configuration) would be able to store 375 GB of data, which is acceptable.
My question is this if 16GB RAM is enough to efficiently serve 375 GB of data per node. The data in the application developed will also be fairly time-dependant, such that recent data will be the data most read from the database. In fact, most of the data will be deleted after about 6 months.
Also, would I assign Cassandra a Heap (-Xmx) close to 16 GB, or does Cassandra utilize off-heap memory ?
You should not set the Cassandra heap to more than 8GB; bigger than that, and garbage collection will kill you with large pauses. Cassandra will use the buffer cache (like other applications) so the remaining memory isn't wasted.
16GB of RAM will be enough to serve the data if your hot set will all fit in RAM, or if serving rate can be served off disk. Disks can do about 100 random IO/s, so with your setup if you need more than 200 reads / second you will need to make sure the data is in cache. Cassandra exports good cache statistics (cassandra-cli show keyspaces) so you should easily be able to tell how effective your cache is being.
Do bear in mind, with only two disks in RAID-1, you will not have a dedicated commit log. This could hamper write performance quite badly. You may want to consider turning off the commit log if it does affect performance, and forgo durable writes.
Although it is probably wise not to use a really huge heap with Cassandra, at my company we have used 10GB to 12GB heaps without any issues so far. Our servers typically have at least 48 GB of memory (RAM is cheap -- so why not :-)) and so we may try expanding the heap a bit more and see what happens.