I have been looking into Open GL ES, Quartz 2D, a framework called cocos2D and I am not sure what would be the best direction to move forward in when making a 2D game. I am planning on making a pretty simple not to intense game and I am new to game development but not to iphone development.
Which would be the easiest to learn? Which one would give the best performance ?
Thanks
I was in the same position as you and I chose Cocos2D. It's perfect for a beginner. It's basically a wrapper for OpenGL ES, and it's open-source so you can see how it works and modify it to your liking.
Starting with Cocos2D is a good idea because you can make a lot of abstraction from complex low-level functionality, while achieving a good high-level overview of your game. While developing, you will pick up some low-level details as well, so that you'll be more prepared for them in future games.
Plus, Cocos2D has a really nice structure for simple 2D games. If you were to write this yourself in say OpenGL ES, then you would just lose a lot of time that you could be spending actually designing your game :)
But that's just my opinion.
Oh and don't worry too much about performance. Cocos2D is fine in that aspect. Like I said, it works on top of OpenGL ES so the drawing is done very efficiently. It also supports stuff like sprite batching and texture atlasses, which is good for performance.
As the goal of these frameworks is to provide simplified game development, this is definitely the way to go. Of those that you list, two of them are graphics "engines" (Open GL ES, Quartz 2D), and one is a game engine (cocos2D). If you choose graphics, then you'll probably have to write quite a bit of extra code, even for a simple game.
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I am new to iPhone dev and would like to write a game that involves 2d collisions. Would somebody give me a conceptual overview on how the various frameworks interact in a typical 2d collision game?
The candidates I see mentioned so far are 2d packages such as quartz and cocos2d and physics engines such as chipmunk and box2d. What I am not extremely clear is the relationships among these in my context.
Thanks in advance for answering!
Quartz is a 2D graphics API by Apple. It's usually not used for performance-intensive games, because you can get better performance by using OpenGL directly or by using some thin framework made for games. (Which is what Cocos2D provides.) The collision stuff is independent on this debate, since the collisions are usually calculated without knowing anything about the graphic representation of the colliding objects.
The relationship between collision (or general physics) engines and the graphic layer is exactly the relationship between a model and a view in the MVC pattern. In each frame you move the physical world a bit forward (physics) and then you draw the objects on their new positions (graphics).
In reality the model and view sometimes blend a bit to make things faster, but in principle they are completely separate things. Which means you can pick any of the possible combinations of OpenGL, Quartz or Cocos2D as the graphics engine and Box2D or Chipmunk as the physics engine and get a decent game. I'm not sure how well do the particular combinations work in practice - if that was your question, then I've just wasted a few minutes of your life :-)
zoul got it right, I would just add this :
Cocos2d for iPhone provides samples including Box2D and Chipmunk if you want to try them and see how easy or hard they are to use. So you can go ahead and download Cocos2d, then play with the samples a bit to see if it fits your needs.
I am writing a simple game that animates a ball image quickly across a background image.
Would Core Animation/Quartz be sufficient for this scenario?
I don't really want to learn OpenGL ES if it is not going to provide any substantial benefit in this one off project.
This is a commonly asked question. Other questions like this include:
"iPhone board game: OpenGL ES or CoreGraphics?"
"Are most games on the IPhone done with OpenGL ES?"
"Core Animation or OpenGL ES?"
"Does openGL ES have a better performance than Core Animation and UIKit when it comes to highly animated user interfaces?"
OpenGL ES I suppose isnt too hard.
But at the end of the day Core Animation is going to be fine, its super powerful and not to hard to work with. It will also get you up and running so quick that you will release you game "sucks" a bit and you want to change it and you didn't even have to learn OpenGL.
I highly recommend looking at cocos2d. A very simple game engine for 2d stuff.
http://cocos2d.org/
Have a look at that.
Cheers, John
OpenGL ES isn't that hard, there are lot of really good resources in the web and step by step tutorials. Can be hard at first, but once you get the grip of It things will be easy. 71 Squared has very detailed tutorials:
http://www.71squared.co.uk/iphone-tutorials/
About the question, Core Animation Is great for most apps, but in a videogame It's fundamental to draw your game efficiently and have as much control as possible.
Cocos2d Is great and I recommend It If you need to write a good game, but if you're doing It for educational purposes I recommend OpenGL, You will learn a lot with It and gain a lot of experience.
Just jump to something like Cocos2D so that the OpenGL is done for you. OpenGL ES is significantly faster and more adaptable than Quartz, plus it's not any harder. I even think Quartz is a big pain in the butt and difficult to figure out, although I came from an OpenGL background on desktop computers first, so naturally that jump is pretty small. The point is, though, that either with Quartz or with OpenGL ES you're going to need to spend a lot of time with resource management, etc., so you might as well go with Cocos2D.
yes, it will be fine, as long as you're not wanting to do hundreds of balls at once or something else complicated like that.
If your knowledge of Core Animation is good then i recommend you to skip learning OpenGL ES for now, since it won't really help you (if all you want is what you described of course). On the other hand, if you plan to make more games which have more involved graphics, it might be a better idea to start learning the API. OpenGL ES is a simple API and you can use the full graphics features of the iPhone with it.
If all you want to do is just make this game, then i say go with what you know and are productive.
I would say this very much depends on what you want to do with the ball. If you simply want to fire off an animation and forget about it Core Animation will probably be fine. However, if you are trying to interact with the ball, for example by changing the direction of the ball mid-flight based on user interaction, then you probably want to consider OpenGL ES. Of course, you're other option is to use neither Core Animation or OpenGL ES and simply redraw your view on a timer.
If you're a fairly competent C programmer I wouldn't be too put off the OpenGL ES stuff. Apple supply a lot of the framework for hosting OpenGL ES views in their templates. Although OpenGL can get fairly involved, if you're not trying to render huge multi-object 3D scenes then the basics are fairly straightforward and you should be able to get some nice results quite easily. Although it is for OpenGL rather than OpenGL ES, I would recommend this set of video demos as a good starting point:
www.videotutorialsrock.com
On an iPhone:
If I am writing a game that has multiple levels, with multiple animations (image sequences), jpg and png (transparent), some full screen and some not, some looped and some played once only. What is the best way of doing it? Each level might have up to 10MB of images. Add on to this music, and video (cut scenes). All 2D graphics, no 3D models.
Is OpenGL required? Or can this be achieved with Quartz or Core Animation?
I do similar using UIViews and a bit of Core Graphics (Quartz 2D) and it works fine. I've found the custom drawing in Core Graphics pushes it a bit further, tho - UIViews work best when given images rather than having to draw themselves. Also watch out for lots of transparencies. You'll probably find that large or long (many frame) animations will be the killer, though. There are some techniques for minimising the impact of the animations which involves allowing it to purge images from memory if not being immediately displayed (I forget the setting). This may result in your animations not being as smooth as you they would otherwise be (not sure if Open GL ES would help here, though).
You should probably prototype using UIViews, and decide then if it's worth doing the extra work for OpenGL ES. Also, if you're not already familiar with OpenGL/ Open GL ES it's a steep learning curve.
I've used both Quartz and OpenGL to do graphics on the iPhone, and while OpenGL has a much higher learning curve, it gives much better performance than Quartz. Let's say you have a scene that involves drawing 6 large, semi-transparent images on top of each other. Quartz will do it, but you'll probably get 15fps at best. OpenGL takes advantage of the iPhone's PowerVR chip and the drawing is hardware accelerated - so you can load those images into OpenGL textures and render at 25-30fps no problem.
I would agree with Phil though - try doing it using Quartz and see if it meets your needs. OpenGL is extremely powerful but it's API lacks some of the convenience features of Quartz (such as saving/restoring graphics state).
One another note entirely, you might want to take a look at Unity's iPhone development tools (http://unity3d.com/#iphone). They leverage OpenGL but provide you with an IDE to create your game. It abstracts away all of the graphics-level code, so you can focus on the high-level gameplay. My brother uses it to write iPhone games, and it's extremely cool.
I recommend having a look at Cocos2D iPhone.
cocos2d for iPhone is a framework for building 2D games, demos, and other graphical/interactive applications. It is based on the cocos2d design: it uses the same API, but instead of using python it uses objective-c.
Most likely OpenGl.
One advantage of using OpenGL ES would be that the investment of time for learning the technology could be applied to other platforms/contexts and your game is potentially more port-friendly. These may not be important to you.
I would suggest using Quartz. OpenGL ES is really best for 3d stuff. However both work fairly well, so if you already know OpenGL ES, it's fine to use that.
You should consider using a lot of less resources in your game, Apple recommends not to use more than 10 mb in texture for openGL apps.
Try texture atlas, reuse graphics, tile based graphics...but avoid to use to much graphic assets.
OK, I'm still brand new to iPhone development. I have a free game on the app store, Winner Pong, but it's just a Pong clone (who would've guessed) that uses the standard UIImageViews for the sprites. Now I want to do something a little more complicated, and port my game for the Xbox 360, Trippin Alien, to the iPhone. I obviously can't keep using UIImageViews, so I was wondering which would be better to learn: the simpler, but performance-hindering Qurtz2D, or the smooth-running but dauntingly complex OpenGL ES.
My game is basically a copter game, with about 8-10 sprites on screen plus a simple particle system (video here). Not too complicated, but performance does matter. My only prior game programming experience is in Microsoft's XNA and C#, which has a built in SpriteBatch framework that makes it incredibly easy to draw, scale, and rotate pre-rendered sprites on screen. Is it worth it to learn OpenGL ES? How big is the performance gap? Is quartz really that simple?
Also, if anyone knows of any tutorials for either one, please, post them here. I need as much help as I can get.
Look through code samples of each to actually see the complexity. You might find that OpenGL isn't so daunting.
Regarding the performance. Core Animation, which Quartz2d is part of, uses OpenGL behind the covers, so for simple sprite animations, I would expect your game to perform fairly well.
I would also glance over the programming guide for each before making your final decision.
Another alternative is to use something like Unity. I recently just started playing around with the trial version of this development environment and if you're mostly doing game development with graphical objects and sprites, this may be one option to consider. You can script in C#, Javascript, or Boo. The development environment allows you to graphically setup your scenes and levels. You can then attach scripts to graphical objects for animation to handle user events, etc.
One downside for Unity, which I've heard from others is that if you want to use the familiar UI controls from UIKit, it's not so easy to instantiate them...I haven't verified this myself.
I was just wondering if most games on the iPhone are done in OpenGL ES as opposed to using Quartz and Core Animation. Are Quartz and Core Animation mostly used for just creating slick interfaces? Or if there is a point with games where OpenGL probably has to be used over using other tools?
For efficiency reasons OpenGL ES is you best choice for games, unless your writing a "simple" board game or card game (like Solitaire). In this case Core Animation would be a good fit.
You should check out cocos2d-iphone if you are going to do a 2d game. It seems to be a pretty solid foundation. It comes with the chipmunk physics engine and everything all ready to go.
I think OpenGL is your best choice, I can't agree that the Quartz stuff is any easier to use.
Also if you're successful then most of your code will be portable to other platforms. Something to consider.
Mostly it comes down to whether you need 3D or not. If your game is entirely 2 dimensional, then using Quartz for your drawing is probably simpler. Not that OpenGL is all that complicated, but it is more complex than the Quartz interface.
Quartz drawing and compositing will be OpenGL accelerated when possible, so there shouldn't be much performance difference if you're strictly doing 2D drawing.