I am using Eclipse with the "statet plugin for R".
I am looking for a way to do collaborative development (like in google docs: allow people to modify code at the same time). Any preferred plugin for that? I have seen eXtreme Collaborative Development Environment but I don't know if it is good?
I wouldn't use a shared drive, I'd set up a source code respository using Mercurial or Git and use that. I'm sure there's plugins for those for Eclipse.
How would you stop it being a free-for-all? In my experience, when developing code you want to control change, not have it forced upon you when you aren't ready for it.
Consider this scenario. You have a hard to explain defect in your code. You are steadily debugging it, throwing different data at it, looking at intermediate values etc. You are just about to trap it when BOOM, somebody else changes some other code and your results change because of that.
Spacedman is right, use a revision control system of your choice and keep in control of change.
If you want to do something like pair programming, but remotely, then use a remote screen, e.g. VNC, with Skype so that you can explain to the other what you are trying to achieve.
I've used egit to add git functionality to Eclipse with StatEt and it works well. Allows others to edit code in whatever way works best for them (one repository, several individual repositories with frequent merges etc)
There are plugins out there that will facilitate realtime code sharing. They commonly work by having all individual devs have their own copy of the files and synching changes back-n-forth on the fly. If conflicts are found you get to decide how to resolve them explicitly.
Here is one such plugin from ECF project:
http://wiki.eclipse.org/DocShare_Plugin
I would recommend a source control system for day-to-day development. Real-time code sharing works best for holding short-term collaborative editing or debugging sessions, doing code reviews, etc.
I'm assuming Mercurial is for having an updated website and it archiving the old stuff? Easy to test things and such?
My question is, how exactly should I get started and can somebody give me a crash course in using Mercurial and using the following techs below:
Notepad++ for coding
FTP
PHP/MySQL
Jquery & other js libraries
I use windows and would like to keep things fairly simple. I'm developing 1 website currently and want some kind of CVS system in place. Or should I just stick to my current edit file in notepad++ and upload via ftp method and make a backup copy of everything every once and a while?
Any thoughts?
EDIT: I'm doing http://bugtracker.gttools.com/public/wiki/bluehost/Mercurial right now in order to try and 'install' it.
I'd definitely recommend taking a read through the excellent HGinit http://hginit.com/ site in addition to the official guide.
Definitely try and move across to using some form of version control (SVN, git or mercurial) as it'll save you down the line.
Mercurial is a distributed version control system, much like Git but allegedly slightly simpler.
A good tutorial by Joel Spolsky can be found here.
If you read up on https://www.mercurial-scm.org/guide under Basic Workflow you should be able to figure out how to work with it while editing files using Notepad++ etc.
From your question it sounds like you don't know much about version control (like you have a very basic grasp of what it is and why it is useful). So perhaps the first thing you should do is read up on that in general first of all.
But in terms of using Mercurial I don't think you will find a better insight into how to use it and why it is so good than Joel's tutorial, which you can find here hginit Tutorial
HGInit is a good tutorial for mercurial. Basically you have to hg init in the directory you want to be under version control. If you don't like the command line, you can also use gui tools, like tortoisehg.
If I'm not mistaken you also want to upload the latest version to the website. If I'm right ftp access won't be enough for this (unless you define a post-commit hook, that uploads the directory using ftp).
I'm assuming Mercurial is for having
an updated website and it archiving
the old stuff? Easy to test things and
such?
Not sure what you mean here. Mercurial (and all version control systems) lets you archive your changes as you make them, label and manage your releases so you can track code that goes together, and branch when you need to do parallel development.
You should be checking in your changes as you make them. If anything goes wrong during development, you can roll back to the last good version you had. It's a great way to make sure that you don't lose days and days of work because you forgot to check in.
Check in early, check in often.
I'm looking for a subversion tool, and i have the following requirements:
Must integrate into VS 2008
Automatically submits new versions
Does not use the command line as primary interface
Doesn't clutter up explorer with bright icon overlays or context menus
is only going to be used by one user mostly if not completely, so doesn't need to have advanced diff tools or anything like that
Basically, i want a subversioning tool that will only bother me when creating a project or actually needing to get something from a previous version.
Does something like that exist, and if so, what is it?
Yes. VisualSVN (commercial)
Except for "automatically submits new versions" - that makes no sense.
The day computers know when your code is ready to be committed and free of bugs is the day the world needs a lot less programmers
You commit when you're done a task, which effectively gives you a rollback point. It's also important to add a meaningful commit message ("Fixed crash when clicking on Save button") - this way you can find things easily later. A lot of new users to version control skip this part, and unfortunately only learn the hard way 3 months later when they need to go back and undo a fix/feature.
AnkhSvn is a free alternative, I've personally only used 1.x, which was really quite terrible. It definitely looks more usable in 2.x.
One upside to VisualSVN is that it uses TortoiseSVN for a lot of its dialogs. This means when you're working with subversion just from explorer, you have basically the same interface and same UI. Quite handy, as it lets you do things like edit images or text files without having to fire up VisualStudio, or edit scripts/installers, or other parts of a product that are not necessarily in VisualStudio.
Yes, they are available.
The two I know of are VisualSVN and AnkhSVN. There are a bunch of comparisons available on SO
I use AnkhSVN myself. It is free, integrates nicely with Visual Studio, and doesn't cause any performance issues.
visual SVN is what you need.
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I read all over the Internet (various sites and blogs) about version control. How great it is and how all developers NEED to use it because it is very useful.
Here is the question: do I really need this? I'm a front-end developer (usually just HTML/CSS/JavaScript) and I NEVER had a problem like "Wow, my files from yesterday!".
I've tried to use it, installed Subversion and TortoiseSVN, I understand the concept behind version control but... I can't use it (weird for me).
OK, so... Is that bad? I usually work alone (freelancer) and I had no client that asked me to use Subversion (but it never is too late for this, right?). So, should I start and struggle to learn to use Subversion (or something similar?) Or it's just a waste of time?
Related question: Good excuses NOT to use version control.
Here's a scenario that may illustrate the usefulness of source control even if you work alone.
Your client asks you to implement an ambitious modification to the website. It'll take you a couple of weeks, and involve edits to many pages. You get to work.
You're 50% done with this task when the client calls and tells you to drop what you're doing to make an urgent but more minor change to the site. You're not done with the larger task, so it's not ready to go live, and the client can't wait for the smaller change. But he also wants the minor change to be merged into your work for the larger change.
Maybe you are working on the large task in a separate folder containing a copy of the website. Now you have to figure out how to do the minor change in a way that can be deployed quickly. You work furiously and get it done. The client calls back with further refinement requests. You do this too and deploy it. All is well.
Now you have to merge it into the work in progress for the major change. What did you change for the urgent work? You were working too fast to keep notes. And you can't just diff the two directories easily now that both have changes relative to the baseline you started from.
The above scenario shows that source control can be a great tool, even if you work solo.
You can use branches to work on longer-term tasks and then merge the branch back into the main line when it's done.
You can compare whole sets of files to other branches or to past revisions to see what's different.
You can track work over time (which is great for reporting and invoicing by the way).
You can recover any revision of any file based on date or on a milestone that you defined.
For solo work, Subversion or Git is recommended. Anyone is free to prefer one or the other, but either is clearly better than not using any version control. Good books are "Pragmatic Version Control using Subversion, 2nd Edition" by Mike Mason or "Pragmatic Version Control Using Git" by Travis Swicegood.
There are lots of benefits, yes you need it.
What tools/techniques can benefit a solo developer?
Best Version control for lone developer
You don't need version control any more than a trapese artist needs a safety net. It's like backing up your hard drive—most of the time it seems redundant as nothing happens but it will be needed eventually. There's no maybes here. It will happen. And you can never predict when and the past is a poor indicator as to when it will happen. It may happen only once ever in the future but even if you know it'll happen once you won't know how bad it will be.
Yes!
Do it. It won't hurt you..
I usually switch from Laptop to PC and back and it's absolutely great to have your code somewhere in a central repository.
Sometimes it's great to go just revert to the latest revision because you screwed up something that would be too difficult to fix..
The biggest advantage that is missing is being able to re-produce the source code that generated an old build.
At build time, you tag the source control with 'Build 4.26'. The next day you start coding Build 4.27. Three months later, when a client says, "I'm using Build 4.26, and there's a bug in the Frickershaw feature. I can't upgrade to any other build because of some changes to file formats you made in build 4.27. Is there anything you can do for me? I'm willing to pay."
Then, you can checkout a branch of the 4.26 source code... fix the Frickershaw feature, and then re-build the package for the user in about an hour or two. Then you can switch back to version 4.39, and keep working.
In the same vein, you can track down the exact point at which a bug was added. Test versions 4.25 for the bug, then 4.20, then 4.10 and eventually find the bug was introduced in version 4.12. Then you look for all changes made between 'Build 4.11' and 'Build 4.12', and then focus on the Frickershaw feature. You can quickly find the source code for the bug without ever debugging it.
Branching doesn't seem useful to you? Have you never wanted to just try something out to see if it would work? I do a lot of plain old html/css stuff too, and I find that invaluable. There is literally no danger in branching to test something, seeing if it works, and deciding "meh" and then just rolling back.
I've never needed to get to a backup (knock on wood), but I find just the rolling back functionality invaluable.
A few perks as a freelancer:
Know definitively what you changed in every single file and when (as long as you check in often)
Rollback to any version in your past. Surprising how often this is valuable.
Track a set of changes as a 'release'. This way you know what each client is currently using and what's in development.
Backup
The ability to easily share a project if you suddenly aren't solo
Try a DVCS like Git or Bazaar. They are incredibly easy to set up, easy to use, and offer all the important features of Subversion, CVS, etc.
The key is that you can revert back to a working version when you break something, which is often much faster than undoing the change manually.
I wouldn't hire a contractor without them integrating into our processes. They would have to access code via our SVN, and would be unlikely to get paid without meeting unit testing and code review requirements.
If contracting I'd make sure to have solid experience of both VSS (check-in/out) and CVS (merge & conflict) models.
Working on your own you have a great opportunity to play and learn with the latest - I'd be trying out Git.
As a lone developer you can think of source control as an unlimited undo - one that works across sessions and reboots.
A minor advantage of source control for me is that I work on multiple development computers. It is easy to move my work around between machines.
The greatest advantage in my opinion has already been listed. It allows me to sleep at night knowing that if we have to roll-back a change it will be fairly easy.
I think the main advantage in moving from a "keep-all-versions file system" to a source code control system lies in the fact that the sccs adds structure to all those versions you kept of all those files, and provides you with records of "what was the consistent state of the whole file system at point X".
In other words, "Which version of file A goes with which versions of B, C, D, ...".
And an afterthought (¡!): the special act of committing or checking in makes you think about "what is this?", and the resulting log message can, hopefully, serve as memory...
The literal answer to this question is, No, you do not NEED version control.
You do, however, WANT version control, even if you don't know it.
That said, many SCM tools can be mysterious or downright unpleasant to use until you break through the Grok Barrier, so let's revise that a bit:
"You do, however, want EASY-TO-USE version control." And it's out there...download a bunch of recommended visual clients and give them a whirl, then try whichever maps best to the way you think.
Which leads to the question you meant to ask:
Why do I want to use version control?"
Answer: Version control allows you to be FEARLESS!
Yes you need it.
At the very least, for a single developer shop, you need to move code into a ProjectName-Date-Time directory several times a day.
That is, write a script that will automatically back up your working directory at lunch and at quitting time, without overwriting other back ups.
This can grow pretty fast, so eventually you'll want to save only the differences between files, which is what a VC application does.
Since you usually work alone, I would say that it is a good idea to use version control. One of the main benefits I have found in using version control (Subversion in my case), is that when working alone it gives me more confidence in trying a new approach to the problem. You can always branch to a new method or framework of solving the problem and see if you like it better. If it turns out that this branch doesn't work, you can just abandon it and go back to the old method. This also makes it easier to try out the different solutions side by side.
So, if you have ever seen a different approach to solving a problem and you wanted to try it out, I would definitely use version control as a tool to make this easier.
If you are working on your own, and are performing backups on a regular basis, VC may not be needed (unless you count your backups as version history). As soon as you start working with another developer, you should get version control in place so that you don't start over-writing each other's work.
Even if you don't need it right now, it is something you will need whenever you work in a team.
Having a history of changes to your html/css/javascript can be a godsend. Being able to compare your front-end to the code a month, or several months ago can really go a long way in figuring out why suddenly the template is all askew.
Plus if you ever want/need to get help on your project(s), you'll have an easy system to distribute, track, and deploy updated content.
Definitely do it, you'll thank yourself once you get used to it.
Checkout (one time)
Update (beginning of day)
Commit (end of task/change after testing)
That's all there is to it. Don't commit EVERY single modification that you're refreshing in the browser, just the one's you want to go live.
Think if it like a backup. It is a little irritating until the day you need it. Then the amount of work you lose is directly proportional to the frequency of your backups.
Another benifit is being able to look at old ways you did things that may have become obsolete in a certain spot but could be usefull in another. Just cut and paste the old code that you got when doing a compare.
That is unless you like reinventing the wheel you already reinvented...
When things can go wrong they will.
It is very nice to have the ability to reference code you may have deleted a month ago, or to recover the entire project after a hardware failure or upgrade.
There may also be a point in the future when the project is worked on by more than you. The ability to prevent (or control) branching and versioning is a must in an environment like that.
Must must must must must must. You must use version control.
This is of the deepest importance.
If you don't understand why now, you will one day.
When your client phones up in a panic because something is broken on the live site and it's a regression, you'll be glad you can just open TortoiseSVN and see what it was you did last Tuesday that caused the breakage.
It's really odd. Ever since I started using version control, I've very occasionally had the need to look up old copies of my code and use them. I never needed to do this before...probably because the idea of doing didn't really stick. It's easy not to notice those times when you could have found version control helpful.
Search within an entire codebase. It's a killer feature, mainly because the search gets actioned on another machine so you can get on with your work undisturbed.
Which incidentally, is the reason why we didn't change to SourceGear Vault. It can't do this. We're still looking for a SourceSafe-compatible replacement for... well, SourceSafe. Despite what everyone says, it hasn't let us down yet*
* this may just be a matter of time.
I think you've made the right decision to use some kind of version control. For simplicity, I'd go with SVN (ignore CVS as SVN is basically a "better" CVS)
SVN can work with "local" repositories right on the filesystem and on lots of platform so you don't have to bite off too much in infrastructure (servers, networks, etc)
Great resource for SVN: http://svnbook.red-bean.com
I don't know much about GIT, but it being open source and gain lots of mindshare probably has alot of similar advantages!
Borrowing a quote from somewhere: You might not need it now, but when you do, you'll be glad you did.
Happy versioning!
Although old and crude, we have found Microsoft Visual SourceSafe to work. It works great for keeping version history. If you are not to worried about branching, which being the solo developer you may not, it might just fit the bill.
As far as checking in, finding a good checkpoint can be a challenge, but checking in on every save will only make versioning hard to track.
"Do I really need version control?"
Yes. Unless you write perfect code that never needs to get changed.
An example:
I had a requirement. I built up a webpage, spent a day or so on the page, it's Section 508 compatibility (this was about 6-7 years ago), and uploaded to the website. Next the requirement was changed drastically. I spend another day working on the page (and Hayuge Excel files didn't convert into accessible HTML easily). About a week later, client switches asks that we go back to Version A. Source control would have done this in about 10 minutes. As it was, I had to blow another %$#^^&$# day on the task.
Yes, you need version control either for development purposes or simply for storing your documents. This way, you can go back in time if you're required to do so in order to revert changes or mistake made on a code or documents.
Once you start working on a team that references ever upgrading "components" from multiple callers/applications, version control will be an absolute must. In that environment, there is no way that you can keep up with all the permutations of possible change.
You need version control just like you need insurance in life.
You need version control to manage different file versions. With it, you can get and work on the files from different places and it facilitates team members to collaborate on the same project.