I'm trying to display the results of a sproc in my MVC 3 web app.
However, the sproc calls into 4 tables on one database and joins them with 5 views (single table views only, thank goodness) on another database. Each (SQL Server) db is on a separate server but that shouldn't matter.
I've read this: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/swiss_dpe_team/archive/2008/02/04/linq-to-sql-returning-multiple-result-sets.aspx
and this:
http://www.codeproject.com/KB/dotnet/linqToSql5.aspx
and still cannot determine whether I should use the dataContext classes or just embed the straight SQL.
Perhaps there is a better way to return my results than LINQ to SQL (15 columns, 3 different data types)? I need to update the tables as well. The user will have the ability to update each value if they choose. Is this a task best suited for the entity framework classes?
I plan on using the repository pattern so I can change data access technology if I must but would rather make the correct decision the 1st go 'round.
I was hoping for a resource that was more up-to-date than say, NerdDinner and more robust than the movie apps for MVC3 that abound, particularly implementing the sproc results inside a view. Any suggestions would surely be appreciated. Thanks.
Once you plan to "update" data then you are going to handle it all through stored procedures. Both Linq-to-sql or Entity framework will not help you with this because they are not able to persist changes to something created from arbitrary query. You should very carefully check if you are even able to track the data back to the correct record in the correct table. Generally result of a stored procedure is mostly for viewing the data but once you want to modify the data you must work with each table directly or again use some stored procedure which will do the task. Working with tables from multiple databases can be pretty complex in entity framework (EF doesn't support objects from multiple databases in one entity model).
Also what you mean by 15 columns, 3 different data types? Stored procedures support in both Linq-to-sql and Entity framework will return enumeration of one flattened data type containing 15 properties.
I'm not aware of anything that linq-to-sql can do that Entity Framework can't really, so EF seems to be a better solution in this case. You can add a stored procedure to your Entity Framework model as well, so you can just have it call the procedure and deal with whatever comes back.
Since the end goal will involve accessing the same Databases with either technology and they will be using sql to retrive the data either way its really a subjective anwser.
I would use whatever technology you are most comfortable and focus more on the implementation. Both data access platforms are based off of ado.net technologies and are for the most part equally powerful.
Regardless of the technology I would evaluate how the data is accessed and make implementation decisions based on that.
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I'm working on an application that interfaces with a slightly odd database. The design of this database is pretty bad; there are basically no foreign keys (although there are columns that reference other tables, they're not set as keys), columns are named very ambiguously, and the structure does not lend itself to the kind of logic I'm aiming to do (mostly, it forces joins for operations that should be simple, and leaves you trawling through needlessly massive tables for things that could have been split).
Unfortunately, I'm stuck with this database. It's being replicated off a third-party system, so I can't change the table structure or anything. I can add stored procedures and views, though.
In the application, I've come up with a set of classes that I can work with much more easily. I've got quite a bit of experience with Entity Framework, so I'm planning to use that. My initial hunch is that I can add views to the database that return things in the format of my classes, and then from there on out just pretend that they're tables. I've never tried anything like this before, though, and I'm not entirely sure how to proceed.
How can I use Entity Framework to map my classes to these views? Note that it kinda needs to be my POCO classes, rather than anything EF auto-generates - is there a way to tell EF to map existing classes?
If you use code first then Entity Framework will generate CreateTable instructions in the migrations. To use a view instead, replace this code with your own Sql to generate the View. See the answer to this question: Mapping Database Views to EF 5.0 Code First w/Migrations
I would also configure Entity Framework to use stored procedures. Then you can tailor the insert/update/delete sql to match the underlying tables. Again, you can do this by altering the sql that is generated for you in the migrations.
I'm creating a webservice layer over a legacy SQL Server based system. It's a pretty large and complicated business application which has a large number of stored procedures that perform SELECT statements . Most of these stored procedures join a number of tables and produce a single resultset for easy consumption by the client.
In building my webservice I want to take advantage of EF, and using a Code First approach 80% of my use cases can be achieved by mapping direclty to tables. However I have a number of use cases where I need the cross tbale views of data as provided by the stored procedures. As I see it I have 3 options:
Create new POCOs that represent the stored procedure returns and link these to the existing stored procedures (let SQL do the join and re-use exisitng code)
Create new POCOs that look like the stored procedure return, but populate themselves by association with othe EF entities (let EF do the jons)
Do the joins somehow in LINQ
What do people think is best practice in situations like this, which I guess most of us are coming up against everyday?
Thanks,
Andy
many a good book out there. anything from Julie Lerman... this is more recent http://www.apress.com/9781430257882
With Navigation properties, you can do most things without old fashioned joins.
So 4) do it in Linq,and let EF do the Joins.
Use Navigation properties. you can do many logical joins and even avoid the join keyword.
this blog shows how easy and why LINQ with no join syntax results in Joins at the db level.
http://blog.staticvoid.co.nz/2012/7/17/entity_framework-navigation_property_basics_with_code_first
I'm working on a green-field application that has a corporate mandate that Stored Procedures are used for all database interaction.
I'd like to use Entity Framework and leverage Stored Procedure Mapping to gain the benefits of the ORM.
Since we will be developing the database and .NET application in parallel, I'm looking for information to help the database developer/administrator. Does anyone know of a consolidated guide on how to design tables and stored procedures so they can be best integrated with the Entity Framework?
A couple tips I've collected are:
Update Stored Procedures require exactly 1 parameter per table column
There must be an insert, update, and delete Stored Procedure for every table
I want to know as much about how the database should be designed for easy use with Entity Framework because the database is very difficult to change later in our environment.
I wrote a blog post describing the limitations of using mapping in this way after working on this for several months:
The Pitfalls of Mapping the Entity Framework to Stored Procedures
If you want to use Stored Procedures are used for all database interaction, I just don't see the need to use Entity Framework. One good reason of EF is to save time to write T-SQL, and if you don't take advantage of this, why even use EF?
Is it possible to use Entity Framework 4.3 without linking the model to an actual DB in the back-end?
I need to build a conceptual model of a database in the VS designer and then I'd like to manually handle fetches, inserts and updates to various back-end databases (horrible legacy systems). I need to be able to do this without EF moaning about not having tables mapped, etc. I realise that this is a very odd thing to want to do...
The reason for this is that we would like to move from these legacy systems into a well designed data model and .NET environment, but we need to still maintain functionality and backward compatibility with the old systems during development. We will then reach a stage where we can import the old data (coming from about 6 different databases) into a single DB that matches the EF model I'm building. In theory, we should then be able to switch over from the hacked up EF model to a proper EF model matching the new data structure.
Is this viable? Is it possible to use the EF interface, with LINQ without actually pointing it to a database?
I have managed to query the legacy systems by overriding the generated DbContext and exposing IQueryable properties which query the old systems. My big fight now is with actually updating the data.
If I am able to have EF track changes to entities, but not actually save those changes. I should be able to override the SaveChanges() method on the context to manually insert into various legacy tables.
I'm sort of at wits end with this issue at the moment.
UDPATE 4 Sept 2012: I've opted to use the EDMX file designer to build the data model and I generate the code by using T4. This enables me to then manually write mapping code to suit my needs. It also allows me to later perform a legacy data migration with relative ease.
If I were in your situation I'd setup the new DB server and link the legacy servers to it. Then create stored procedures to interface with EF for the INSERT/UPDATE/DELETE. This way your EF code remains separate from the legacy support messiness. As you decommission the legacy DB servers you can update your stored procedures accordingly. Once you have no more legacy DB servers you can either continue using your sprocs or do a refresh of your EF data connection to use the table schema directly.
Entity framework is to link entities to a data store without manual populates.
Otherwise you're just using classes with linq.
If you mean you don't want a seperate data store like sql server, mongo etc etc, then just let your application create the database as an mdb file that gets bundled in your app_data file. That means you don't need a databsae server so to speak and the database is part of your app.
If on the other hand you want a different way to save to the database, you can create your own data adapters to behave however you like. The mongo .net entity framework component is an example of this.
Alternatively, using code only you can just use stored procedures to persist to the database which can be a bit verbose and annoying with EF, but could bridge the gap for you you and allow you to build a good architecture with a model you want that gets translated into the crappy one in your repositories.
Then when the new database is ready, you can just rework your repo's to use savechanges and you're done.
This will of course only work with the code only approach.
I am working on creating a service layer for a large sql server database (2008 R2) that is currently the backend for a winforms POS application with strongly typed datasets.
I think WCF is the way to go, and at first glance it seemed EF 4 was a good choice but now I'm having my doubts. Here is what I have found:
The stored procedure mapping isn't that great. I have hundreds of stored procs that I want to reuse. Most of them wouldn't return an 'entity' so the stored procs would have to be mapped to a complex type. Many of the procs use dynamic sql or temp tables so EF can't figure out what complex type to crete. Many of the procs return multiple result sets. I've read that EF extensions have a way to map stored procs with multiple result sets, but only for entities, so that doesn't help me.
Large models are a problem. There doesn't seem to be a good way to handle large entity models. The workaround of creating smaller models isn't that desirable and splitting the model loses design support, am I missing something?
EF mappings only go so far. The stored procs that I want to reuse return projections or information from many tables into a result set. There doesn't seem to be a way to map these results into entities, am I wrong? I've read about combining results from 2 table into 1 entity, but that only works if the tables have the same primary key.
Are people using EF in large scale existing databases? If not what would you recommend?
I've used EF on large scale databases, but as you say, the support for SPs as you have got is not great. That's not specifically a failing of EF per-se - ORMs in general work on the same principle and have the same "limitation".
If you have lots of SPs and are mapping them to datasets, you'll have to do lots of work even without SPs in terms of no longer referencing datasets and referencing your domain model types through your system, so you'd need to have some way to map your SPs to your domain model and back anyway.