I'm trying to connect from Microsoft SQL server to as AS/400 so i can pull data from the AS/400 then flag the data as being pulled.
I've successfully created and OLE DB "IBMDASQL" connection, and am able to pull data some data, but i'm running into an issue when i try to pull data from a very large table
This runs fine, and returns a count of 170 million:
select count(*)
from transactions
This query executed for 15 hours before i gave up on it. (It should return zero since i haven't flagged anything as 'in process' yet)
select count(*)
from transactions
where processed = 'In process'
I'm a Microsoft guy, but my AS/400 guy says that there is an index on the 'processed' column and that locally, that query run instantaneously.
Any thoughts on what i might be doing wrong? I found a table with only 68 records in it, and was able to run this query in about a second:
select count(*)
from smallTable
where RandomColumn = 'randomValue'
So I know that the AS/400 is at least able to understand that type of query.
I have had to fight this battle many times.
There are two ways of approaching this.
1) Stage your data from the AS400 into SQL server where you can optimize your indexes
2) Ask the AS400 folks to create logical views which speed up data retrieval, your AS400 programmer is correct, index will help but I forget the term they use to define a "view" similar to a sql server view, I beleive its something like "physical" v/s "logical". Logical is what you want.
Thirdly, 170 million is a lot of records, even for a relational database like SQL server, have you considered running an SSIS package nightly that stages your data into your own SQL table to see if it improves performance?
I would suggest this way to have good performance, i suppose you have at least SQL2005, i havent tested yet but this is a tip
Let the AS400 perform the select in native way by creating stored procedure in the AS400
open a AS400 session
launch STRSQL
create an AS400 stored procedure in this way to get/update the recordset
CREATE PROCEDURE MYSELECT (IN PARAM CHAR(10))
LANGUAGE SQL
DYNAMIC RESULT SETS 1
BEGIN
DECLARE C1 CURSOR FOR SELECT * FROM MYLIB.MYFILE WHERE MYFIELD=PARAM;
OPEN C1;
RETURN;
END
create an AS400 stored procedure to update the recordset
CREATE PROCEDURE MYUPDATE (IN PARAM CHAR(10))
LANGUAGE SQL
RESULT SETS 0
BEGIN
UPDATE MYLIB.MYFILE SET MYFIELD='newvalue' WHERE MYFIELD=PARAM;
END
Call those AS400 SP from SQL SERVER
declare #myParam char(10)
set #myParam = 'In process'
-- get the recordset
EXEC ('CALL NAME_AS400.MYLIB.MYSELECT(?) ', #myParam) AT AS400 -- < AS400 = name of linked server
-- update
EXEC ('CALL NAME_AS400.MYLIB.MYUPDATE(?) ', #myParam) AT AS400
Hope it helps
I recommend following the suggestions in the IBM Redbook SQL Performance Diagnosis on IBM DB2 Universal Database for iSeries to determine what's really happening.
IBM technical support can also be extremely helpful in diagnosing issues such as these. Don't be afraid to get in touch with them as the software support is generally included as part of the maintenance contract and there is no charge to talk to them.
I've seen OLEDB connections eat up 100% cpu for hours and when the same query is run through VisualExplain (query analyzer) it estimates mere seconds to execute.
We found that running the query like this performed liked expected:
SELECT *
FROM OpenQuery( LinkedServer,
'select count(*)
from transactions
where processed = ''In process''')
GO
Could this be a collation problem? - your WHERE clause is testing on a text field and if the collations of the two servers don't match this clause will be applied clientside rather than serverside so you are first of all pulling all 170 million records down to the client and then performing the WHERE clause on it there.
Based on the past interactions I have had, the query should take about the same amount of time no matter how you access the data. Another thought would be if you could create a view on the table to get the data you need or use a stored procedure.
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The following query works efficiently when run directly against Oracle 11 using TOAD (with native Oracle drivers)
select ... from ... where ...
and srvg_ocd in (
select ocd
from rptofc
where eff_endt = to_date('12/31/9999','mm/dd/yyyy')
and rgn_nm = 'Boston'
) ...
;
The exact same query "never" returns if passed from SQL Server 2008 to the same Oracle database via openquery(). SQL Server has a link to the Oracle database using an Oracle Provider OLE DB driver.
select * from openquery( servername, '
select ... from ... where ...
and srvg_ocd in (
select ocd
from rptofc
where eff_endt = to_date(''12/31/9999'',''mm/dd/yyyy'')
and rgn_nm = ''Boston''
) ...
');
The query doesn't return in a reasonable amount of time, and the user kills the query. I don't know if it would eventually return with the correct result.
This result where the direct TOAD query works efficiently and the openquery() version "never" returns is reproducible.
A small modification to the openquery() gives the correct efficient result: Change eff_endt to trunc(eff_endt).
That is well and good, but it doesn't seem like the change should be necessary.
openquery() is supposed to be pass through, so how can there be a difference between the TOAD and openquery() behavior?
The reason we care is because we frequently develop complex queries with TOAD directly accessing Oracle. Once we have the query functioning and optimized, we convert it to an openquery() string for use in a SQL Server application. It is extremely aggravating to have a query suddenly fail with openquery() when we know it worked as a direct query. Then we have to search for a work-around through trial and error.
I would like to see the Oracle trace files for the two scenarios, but the Oracle server is within another organization, and we are not getting cooperation from the Oracle DBAs.
Does anyone know of any driver, or TOAD, or ??? issues that could account for the discrepancy? Is there any way to eliminate the problem such that both methods always give the same result?
I know you asked this a while ago but I just came across your question.
I agree, they should be the same. Obviously there is a difference. We need to find out where the difference is.
I am thinking out loud as I type...
What happens if you specify just a few column instead of select * from openquery?
How many rows are supposed to be returned?
What if, in the oracle select, you limit the returned rows?
How quickly does the openquery timeout?
Are TOAD and SS on the same machine? Are you RDPing into the SS and running toad from there?
Are they using the same drivers? including bit? (32/64) version?
Are they using the same account on oracle?
It is interesting that using the trunc() makes a difference. I assume [eff_endt] is one of the returned fields?
I am wondering if SS is getting all the rows back but it is choking on doing the date conversions. The date type in oracle may need to be converted to a ss date type before ss shows it to you.
What if you insert the rows from the openquery into a table where the date field is just a (n)varchar. I am thinking ss might just dump the date it is getting back from oracle into that text field without trying to convert it.
something like:
insert into mytable(f1,f2,f3,datetimeX)
select f1,f2,f3,datetimeX from openquery( servername, '
select f1,f2,f3,datetimeX from ... where ...
and srvg_ocd in (
select ocd
from rptofc
where eff_endt = to_date(''12/31/9999'',''mm/dd/yyyy'')
and rgn_nm = ''Boston''
) ...
');
What if toad or ss is modifying the query statement before sending it to oracle. You could fire up wireshark and see what toad and ss are actually sending.
I would be very curious if you get this resolved. I link ss to oracle often and have not run into this issue.
Here are basic things you can check for to see what the database is doing after it receives the query. First, check that the execution plans are the same in TOAD as when the query runs using openquery. You could plan the query yourself in TOAD using:
explain plan set statement_id = 'openquery_test' for <your query here>;
select *
from table(dbms_xplan.display(statement_id => 'openquery_test';
then have someone initiate the query using openquery() and have someone with permissions to view v$ tables to run:
select sql_id from v$session where username = '<user running the query>';
(If there's more than one connection with the same user, you'll have to find an additional attribute to isolate the row representing the session running the query.)
select *
from table(dbms_xplan.display_cursor('<value from query above'));
If those look the same then I'd move on to checking database waits and see what it's stuck on.
select se.username
, sw.event
, sw.p1text
, sw.p2text
, sw.p3text
, sw.wait_time_micro/1000000 as seconds_in_wait
, sw.state
, sw.time_since_last_wait_micro/1000000 as seconds_since_last_wait
from v$session se
inner join
v$session_wait sw
on se.sid = sw.sid
where se.username = '<user running the query>'
;
(again, if there's more than one session with the same username, you'll need another attribute to whittle it down to the one you're interested in.)
If the plans are different, then you need to find out why, or if they're the same, look into what it's waiting on (e.g. SQL*Net message to client ?) and why.
I noticed a difference using OLEDB through MS Access (2013) connecting to Oracle 10g & 11g tables, in that it did not always recognize indexes or primary keys on the Oracle tables properly. The same query through an MS Access 2000 database (using odbc) worked fine / had no problem with indexes & keys. The only way I found to fix the OLEDB version was to include all of the key fields in the SELECT -- which was not a satisfying answer, but it's all I could find. This might be an option to try through SSMS / OpenQuery(...) as well.
Besides that... you can try some alternatives to OPENQUERY, such as:
4-part names: SELECT ... FROM Server..Schema.Table
Execute AT: EXEC ('select...') at linked server
But as for why the OLEDB provider works differently than the native Oracle Provider -- the providers are not identical, and the native provider would be more likely to pave-over Oracle quirks than the more generic OLEDB provider would.
Could you tell me why this query works in pgAdmin, but doesn't with software using ODBC:
CREATE TEMP TABLE temp296 WITH (OIDS) ON COMMIT DROP AS
SELECT age_group AS a,male AS m,mode AS t,AVG(speed) AS speed
FROM person JOIN info ON person.ppid=info.ppid
WHERE info.mode=2
GROUP BY age_group,male,mode;
SELECT age_group,male,mode,
CASE
WHEN age_group=1 AND male=0 THEN (info_dist_km/(SELECT avg_speed FROM temp296 WHERE a=1 AND m=0))*60
ELSE 0
END AS info_durn_min
FROM person JOIN info ON person.ppid=info.ppid
WHERE info.mode IN (7) AND info.info_dist_km>2;
I got "42P01: ERROR: relation "temp296" does not exist".
I also have tried with "BEGIN; [...] COMMIT;" - "HY010:The cursor is open".
PostgreSQL 9.0.10, compiled by Visual C++ build 1500, 64-bit
psqlODBC 09.01.0200
Windows 7 x64
I think that the reason why it did not work for you because by default ODBC works in autocommit mode. If you executed your statements serially, the very first statement
CREATE TEMP TABLE temp296 ON COMMIT DROP ... ;
must have autocommitted after finishing, and thus dropped your temp table.
Unfortunately, ODBC does not support directly using statements like BEGIN TRANSACTION; ... COMMIT; to handle transactions.
Instead, you can disable auto-commit using SQLSetConnectAttr function like this:
SQLSetConnectAttr(hdbc, SQL_ATTR_AUTOCOMMIT, SQL_AUTOCOMMIT_OFF, 0);
But, after you do that, you must remember to commit any change by using SQLEndTran like this:
SQLEndTran(SQL_HANDLE_DBC, hdbc, SQL_COMMIT);
While WITH approach has worked for you as a workaround, it is worth noting that using transactions appropriately is faster than running in auto-commit mode.
For example, if you need to insert many rows into the table (thousands or millions), using transactions can be hundreds and thousand times faster than autocommit.
It is not uncommon for temporary tables to not be available via SQLPrepare/SQLExecute in ODBC i.e., on prepared statements e.g., MS SQL Server is like this. The solution is usually to use SQLExecDirect.
I need to submit a series of queries to an Oracle server over ODBC from an MS SQL server and store the results as a table on the MS SQL server.
It has to be a pass through because the query requires a server side function defined on the Oracle server.
I can't save the table on the Oracle server and then access it via ODBC because of licensing restrictions from the vendor of the db running on Oracle.
Here's the code that returns the correct results, but I don't know how to save them:
DECLARE #BibID AS bigint
DECLARE BibList CURSOR FOR
SELECT BIB_ID FROM tblActiveSerialsThatHave740s
OPEN BibList
FETCH NEXT FROM BibList INTO #BibID
WHILE ##FETCH_STATUS=0
BEGIN
EXECUTE
('SELECT
AMDB.BIB_DATA.BIB_ID As BIB_ID,
AMDB.GetAllBibTag(AMDB.BIB_DATA.BIB_ID, ''740'', ''2'') As F740_All
FROM
AMDB.BIB_DATA
WHERE
AMDB.BIB_DATA.BIB_ID = ' + #BibID + '
GROUP BY BIB_ID '
)
AT REPORT
FETCH NEXT FROM BibList INTO #BibID
END
DEALLOCATE BibList
You need to use INSERT INTO to capture the results of an EXECUTE.
Because you are executing a passthrough query, the Distributed Transaction Coordinator is going to come into play and you might need to ensure that a distributed transaction is not created (it's unlikely to be necessary to have a distributed transaction in your case) or that the Distributed Transaction Coordinator service is running:
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/sqlprogrammability/archive/2008/08/22/how-to-create-an-autonomous-transaction-in-sql-server-2008.aspx
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms178532.aspx
http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic861249-392-1.aspx
Currently my development environment is using SQL server express 2008 r2 and VS2010 for my project development.
My question is like this by providing a scenario:
Development goal:
I develop window services something like data mining or data warehousing using .net C#.
That meant I have a two or more database involved.
my senario is like this:
I have a database with a table call SQL_Stored inside provided with a coloum name QueryToExec.
I first idea that get on my mind is written a stored procedure and i tried to came out a stored procedure name Extract_Sources with two parameter passed in thats ID and TableName.
My first step is to select out the sql need to be execute from table SQL_Stored. I tried to get the SQL by using a simple select statement such as:
Select Download_Sql As Query From SQL_Stored
Where ID=#ID AND TableName=#TableName
Is that possible to get the result or is there another way to do so?
My Second step is to excecute the Sql that i get from SQL_Stored Table.Is possible to
to execute the query that select on the following process of this particular stored proc?
Need to create a variable to store the sql ?
Thank you,Appreciate for you all help.Please don't hesitate to voice out my error or mistake because I can learn from it. Thank you.
PS_1:I am sorry for my poor English.
PS_2:I am new to stored procedure.
LiangCk
Try this:
DECLARE #download_sql VARCHAR(MAX)
Select
#download_sql = Download_Sql
From
SQL_Stored
Where
AreaID = #AreaID
AND TableName = #TableName
EXEC (#download_sql)
This happens when I query a text field using linked server. For example: select * from openquery(LS,'select text_field from table')
then my server blows up! HELP?
There is not much information you provided.
Probably, one or both of the servers are busy, the table is very large and the link between them is slow.
What happens if you run the query directly on the remote server?