For educational purposes, I am delving into some web development. What I have in mind right now is a website where users can submit as well as view benchmark scores for CPUs, GPus etc. As is evident, this will be heavily driven by a database which will store all the scores etc.
I have programming experience with OOPs (C++, C#), and am not too worried about picking up PHP. However, I feel intimidated by front-end design (HTML, CSS etc.), and for that reason am shying away from developing the website from scratch.
I'm using MS WebMatrix, but I'm not sure which CMS will be best suited for me. Currently, I've reviewed the following: DotNetNuke, Umbraco, Joomla, Drupal; but haven't been able to pinpoint one yet.
Any suggestions which will be best suited for my kind of website?
Most widespread like Wordpress and Drupal CMS (and others) are extensible, meaning that you can create your own content types following the imposed workflow of each one's architecture. So the best suited for you will be the one that take less time learning.
I will recommend you Wordpress because I found that the learning curve is minimal if you can read their PHP source code, that is no need to read a book in its nth edition to cover to cover.
This page is a good start point to create a post type for Bechmarks. But again you could accomplish the same with other CMS, say Drupal. A sibling site of SO is devoted solely to WordPress.
hope that helps!
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I am planning to learn web development during these summer holidays so that I can do some freelancing once I learn it, but I am a bit confused as to where to start and on a few terms. I was hoping to receive some recommendations about what to learn and in what order.
I'm doing my bachelors in Computer Science, have done a lot of C++ so I have a fair amount of concept for programming language. I've done a course of database, so I know a decent amount of database and SQL.
I also know a fair amount of HTML, CSS, JavaScript, jQuery, PHP (very basic PHP, just enough for interaction with MySQL).
An obvious path to me is to improve my PHP skills. but then there are frameworks, and CMS. I have read online but I can't quite grasp as to what exactly a framework or CMS is? and is there something other than a framework or CMS? which to learn first? Should I just learn a framework/CMS first?
Also, there seem to be a lot freelance projects for WordPress, so when it comes to CMS I would rather do that.
A framework usually provides premade code that you can use to "speed up your workflow" in the long run, once you've learned how to use the framework. It's not necessary for everything. I've been developing without any particular frameworks for years, though could probably benefit eventually from doing so.
A CMS (Content Management System) is the back-end or administration section of a website that the webmaster/company/client uses to insert content onto the site. It's an interface for the non-technical, which makes changing pages / updates / products etc easy. A good PHP based, free CMS to look at is Joomla, or you could look at WordPress. Joomla generally takes no more than a couple of days to learn how to use.
Hope this helps.
I am working on a project which requires facilities like aricles, forums, ratings, polls,communities etc..
how to i proceed to make it?
what are its essential parts?
suggestions for the database design.
thankyou.
I know this isn't your question, but don't reinvent the wheel.
You will fall foul of a lot of problems.
Use something like Drupal instead.
Just take a look at some source code from existing CMSs such as Wordpress or SMF and you'll get a good idea.
Yeah-- roll with wordpress or drupal if php, dotnetnuke or orchard for .net. Bare minimum, you could use their code as a template to make yours.
CMSs are complex systems--don't waste your time
There are so many existing and good and open source (if you need the source) CMS systems already. Why reinvent the wheel?
I would recommend going with one that exists but if you must you could even download an open source CMS to help give you an idea of what you need.
I would suggest that you adopt a php framework, like Symfony, kohana/CodeIgniter CakePHP etc. Building a custom cms for yourself or a client is not a bad idea. Hacking the 'usual suspects' that do 80% of what you need and leave a cluttered backend interface might work for some clients, but if you can offer a truly custom experience, your clients would prefer that, given that security is not an issue and you have well functioning CMS.
When it comes to the rudimentary tasks involved in database management/scaffolding, user permissions, forms handling, etc. do try out one of the frameworks, they get you coding the important stuff sooner. Play around with any one of these (I find Symfony is pretty powerful, and Kohana/CI are easy to set up, haven't used cakePhp) and once you get comfortable with one of these, have a look at some of the CMSes that were done using these frameworks
I've built a couple of lightweight CMS's from scratch several years ago in PHP, when the Nukes were the main ones about, and Mambo was becoming popular, however nowadays there are many great choices to choose from.
If your needs are very simple and you really want to build it yourself, than I would recommend building one with a framework such as Kohana which has much of the core plumbing in place, database access, security, permissions etc.
You will need a WYSIWYG such as TinyMCE, (f)CkEditor, or Telerik RadEditor.
Database structure could be centered around document type structure, take a look at the db structure for ModX which is an excellent CMS to buid customized sites off, however even looking at how they structure content is useful.
Design a backend U.I for the admin area of your site, keep it simple, and separate the cms admin area from the frontend code.
Determine the scalability issues of your cms, catering to hundreds(of thousands??!?) of users, what type of roles will be required, permissions for editing content etc.
How would the CMS be extended, with plugins, modules
Determine the templating system, whether to roll your own or use an existing one such as smarty.
These are just some of the initial decisions to make, it's actually quite easy to build a simple CMS though as others have suggested its generally much better to use an existing open source one, ModX, Drupal, etc..
I am looking to develop a multi-user web application that supports the following key features:
fill out forms with demographic data on individuals
define and administer surveys & polls
generate nice reports with graphs)
user rights administration and generic login stuff
My dilemma is whether to use a CMS (Drupal?) or develop from scratch.
Putting the time and cost issues aside for a minute, which are an obvious CMS strength, what are the weaknesses and potential risks using a CMS? my gut tells me that a CMS will be very easy and quick to start with, but when the features list begins to grow - I will pay the bill with having to delve into unfamiliar DB structure and code, try to tweak existing modules or write my own from scratch.
Is it really better, over the long run, to use a CMS?
There are two basic types of CMSes:
focused on features
focused on flexibility
The first type - focused on features - usually offer lot of modules or extensions to expand the basic functionality. You can build your web site very quickly using ready-to-use third party modules. There's a disadvantage of this way - it isn't so easy to bend or customize these modules. Usually you need to rewrite them.
Drupal. WordPress and Joomla are good examples of the first type of CMSes.
The second type - focused on flexibility - somewhere called Content Management Frameworks - don't offer so much prefabricated modules, but offer much more tools and ways to make your structure and relationships between elements fit your needs. It takes more time to learn this kind of CMS or to build your fist web site, but you can easily customize anything you need.
Some examples of the second type CMSes: SilverStripe, Symphony CMS, appRain, MODx, ezPublish.
appRain is one of the best customizable option where you will get both option of CMS and also complex coding by it's framework.
Development process is also easy. New version 4.0.4 is on they way to be released.
What kind of applications are the sweet spot for Scala's lift web framework.
My requirements:
Ease of development and maintainability
Ready for production purposes. i.e. good active online community, regular patches and updates for security and performance fixes etc.
Framework should survive a few years. I don't want to write a app in a framework for which no updates/patches are available after 1 year.
Has good UI templating engines
Interoperation with Java (Scala satisfies this arleady. Just mentioning here for completeness sake)
Good component oriented development.
Time required to develop should be proportion to the complexity of web application.
Should not be totally configuration based. I hate it when code gets automatically generated for me and does all sorts of magic under the hood. That is a debugging nightmare.
Amount of Lift knowledge required to develop a webapp should be proportional to the complexity of the web application. i.e I should't have to spend 10+ hours learning Lift just to develop a simple TODO application. (I have knowledge of Databases, Scala)
Does Lift satisfy these requirements?
Well, you could cruise through the Lift getting started guide in which you build an Ajax To Do app ;-)
Lift has been around for 3 1/2 years. The Google Group has nearly 2,000 people on it. There are 40 committers, of whom, 10+ make commits each month. We close between 40 and 80 tickets per month, do monthly milestone releases. Companies like FourSquare, Xerox, and Novell have hardcore apps built on Lift.
IMHO, Lift meet those requirements. Not so sure about #4, though, on the other hand, it has a good collection of back ends to interact with other services.
I think it mostly hinges on complexity. Lift does things its own way, which you may get easily, or you may not. I'd take a day to write that TODO application -- and be sure to make use of the liftweb group, as there just aren't many Lifters on Stack Overflow -- and see how that goes. I think you'll be able to form an opinion on it -- just a day.
On sweet spots: http://seventhings.liftweb.net/
i think you should post this in the lift mailing list too:
http://groups.google.com/group/liftweb
After reading seventhings.liftweb.net and skimming the first two chapters of Lift in Action, Lift's sweet spot looks to be, complex HTML page-based applications with advanced client-side functionality (like Facebook and Twitter).
Compare to single-page ajax "webapp" applications (like a calendar, or mostly anything built with ExtJS) that provide advanced client-side functionality with pure javascript and ajax middle tier services but the programming model is javascript, html is abstracted away. Compare also to traditional HTML "website" based applications like a wiki or blog -- think twitter bootstrap + jquery -- that don't need advanced client-side functionality.
single-page webapps and page-based websites i think would be made more complex than necessary with Lift unless you had an experienced & disciplined team. This probably correlates with product maturity and team size - facebook and twitter are extremely large applications with hundreds of interacting teams and strong engineering leadership.
a small team of people still exploring and forming opinions on how various apps should be structured is likely, i think, to be mislead by Lift into more complex solutions when perhaps all they needed was straightforward HTML templates and simple ajax endpoints.
I need to create a internal website and can't figure out if we should be writing our own, or using an existing framework.
Most of the website will essentially be a front end to a database. We need to have a number of people enter data into forms. We then want to be able to show different views of all this data -- including running small queries (e.g. how many resources do we have with attribute 'X'). As is usually the case with this, we will want to tweak the UI on a regular basis.
There actual data design is not a simple 1:1 mapping of resource to entry. For example, we might track several attributes for one item as the "base set of data" for that item. Then we could have several additional sets of data.
Imagine a recipe application. You might have a recipse for a starter. This could then be referenced by several other recipes that need that same information.
I feel like this is best suited for a general framework (Ruby on Rails, Django, etc), but I wonder if it might not be good for a "traditional" CMS platform like Drupal? I specifically mention Drupal since the people that would develop this have the most knowledge using php and MySql.
I usually lean towards wanting to use an existing platform, but am interested in other people's thoughts. To give you an idea of scope, I would imagine if we wrote this from scratch we are probably talking about 3-5 weeks of development.
Would you recommend writing our own, or using an existing framework? If you would suggest using something that exists what would you recommend?
Would you consider this to be best suited for a straight framework or a straight CMS?
Thanks!
It's possible that Drupal will be a good solution for you, though you'll probably need a few key additional modules like the "Content Creation Kit" (CCK) and "Views".
Unlike other web CMS systems (WordPress, Exponent, phpNuke), Drupal treats your entries as a "pool" of content, from which you pull various subsets for different areas of your site.
There is a lot of documentation for Drupal (almost too much), the biggest problem is finding the piece that's relevant to what you're trying to achieve. Diving on to one of the interactive IRC channels can be a good idea, as the community is quite helpful and is almost always willing to give you a pointer in the right direction.
The power, flexiblity and capability of Drupal is both its biggest strength and weakness - I know it took me a bit of effort to get my head around key concepts, and I'm far from being a Drupal Expert.
One last comment: Having written my own CMS from scratch, which I abandoned in favour of Drupal, I'd suggest your 3-5 week estimate is likely on the light side.
Stay away from Drupal for any site that requires customized functionality. I recently used Drupal for a website at work, and it was VERY difficult to figure out how to get it to do what I wanted it to do. There is a lot of documentation out there, but all of it is unhelpful -- it answers very specific questions about specific issues but does not provide any context as to how you would approach building the site as a whole. If you're a programmer, using a more general framework will probably work better, as CMS's are designed for a specific kind of site, and if you want your site to have non-standard functionality you are going to be fighting the system instead of working with it. If your developers are most experienced in PHP, try one of the PHP frameworks that mimics the architecture of Rails -- e.g. cakePHP or CodeIgniter.
CMSes usually make sense when you have a broad and potentially expanding array of different content types and modes you need to handle. Drupal has literally dozens. Given than you mentioned RoR, it sounds like what you need is more of a MVC style framework. Maybe similar to the sort of thing stackoverflow was built with. .NET an issue for you?
If you are really limited to 3-5 weeks, however, I think a Rails-based strategy makes sense so go with RoR or CodeIgniter
If Drupal can do what you need easily I would say go with Drupal. I don't know much about Drupal though.
Otherwise, what you describe sounds like a data driven web app or more like a reporting app. It sounds like you might have some very specific needs or that users might want very specific needs in the future. That is something hard to get from premade software since you have no idea what users are going to request. Since I'm a programmer I would probably want to build it myself.
Funny you should ask... I just came across this in SD Time's Linkpalooza this afternoon:
Ten free powerful content management systems…
There are at least 4 more mentioned in the comments to this post.
It seems to make little sense to develop a new one with so many from which to choose!
BTW, this is neither a recommendation nor endorsement of any particular CMS.
Treat Drupal as a framework. Core modules + CCK + Views is a good start to build on.
If you're doing something that you might want to expose to other applications, consider the Services module. A lot of interesting things have been done with flex frontends connected to drupal running services with amfphp.