How to reset PC(motherboard) from FPGA on PCI board (without BIOS manipulations)
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You are probably not going to find a scheme that works with all motherboards, if you even find any. Intel and AMD do this differently too. If you're lucky to find a motherboard where the PCI reset signals are open drain you might be able to drive it and cause some bad stuff to happen and cause a reset. If the motherboard drives those signals then you are out of luck (you could damage the driver).
You could also try to crash the system that would cause a reset, although that's getting harder nowadays with PCIe. Operating systems seem to be able to survive bad PCI devices due to better error handling and timeouts, etc.
Is this to implement some sort of watchdog? Probably easier to do this using IPMI and some sort of heart beat.
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I have these related questions:
Does anybody know how an OS gets to know all hardware connected on the motherboard? (I guess this is called "Hardware Enumeration").
How does it determine what kind of hardware is residing at an specific IO address (i.e.: serial or parallel or whatever controller)?
How to code a system module which will do this job? (Assuming no OS loaded yet, just BIOS).
I know BIOS is just a validation and an user friendly interface to configure hardware at boot time with no real use after that for most modern OS's (win, Linux, etc). Besides I know that for the BIOS it should not be difficult to find all hardware because it is specifically tuned by the board manufacturer (who knows everything about it!). But for an OS or an application above BIOS that is a complete different story. Right?
Pre-PCI this was much more difficult, you needed a trick for each product, and even with that it was difficult to figure everything out. With usb and pci you can scan the busses to find a vendor and product id, from that you go into a product specific discovery (like the old days this can be difficult). Sometimes the details for that board are protected by NDA or worse you just dont get to know unless you work there on the right team.
The general approach is either based on detection (usb, pcie, etc vendor/product ids) you load a driver or write a driver for that family of product based on the documentation for that family of product. Since you mentioned BIOS, win, linux that implies X86 or a PC, and that pretty much covers the autodetectable. Beyond that you rely on the user who knows what hardware was installed in the system and a driver that came with it. or in some way you ask them what is installed (the specific printer at the end of a cable or out on the network if not auto detectable is an easy to understand example).
In short you take decades of experience in trying to succeed at this and apply it, and still fail from time to time since you are not in 100% control of all the hardware in the system, there are hundreds of vendors out there each doing their own thing.
BIOS enumerates the pci(e) for an x86 pc, for other platforms the OS might do it. The enumeration includes allocating address space for the device based on pci compliant rules. but within that address space you have to know how to program that specific board from vendor documentation if available.
Sorry my English is not very good.
Responding questions 1 and 2:
During the boot process, only the hardware modules strictly necessary to find and start the OS are loaded.
These hardware modules are: motherboard, hard drive, RAM, graphics card, keyboard, mouse, screen (that is detected by the graphics card), network card, CD / DVD, and a few extra peripherals such as USB units.
Each hardware module you connect to a computer has a controller that is like a small BIOS with all the information of the stored device: manufacturer, device type, protocols, etc
The detection process is very simple: the BIOS has hardcoded all the information about the motherboard, with all communication ports. At startup, the BIOS sends a signal to all system ports asking the questions "Who are you? What are you? How do you function?" and all attached devices answers by sending their information. In this way the computer knows how much RAM you have, if there is present a keyboard or a mouse, which storage devices are available, screen resolution, etc ...
Obviously, this process only works with the basic modules needed to boot the system, and does not work with complex peripherals that require specific drivers: printers, scanners, webcams ... all these complex peripherals are loaded by software once the OS has been charged.
Responding question 3:
If you wants to load a specific module during the boot, you must:
- Create a controller for this module.
- If the peripheral is too complex to load everything from the controller, you must to write all the proccess to control that module directly in the BIOS module, or reprogram the IPL to manage that specific module.
I hope I've helped
Actually, when you turn on your system, the BIOS starts the IPL (Initial program load) from ROM. For check the all connected devices are working good and also check the mandatory devices such as keyboard, CMOS, Hard disk and so on. If it is not success, it gives an error flag to the BIOS. The BIOS shows us the error through video devices.
If it is success, the control of boot is transferred to BIOS for further process.
The above all process are called POST (Power On Self Test).
Now the BIOS have the control. It checks all secondary memory devices for boot loader of the OS. If it hit, the bootloader's memory address is transferred to RAM.
The Ram started to execute the bootloader. Here only the os starts to run.
If the bootloader not hit, the bios shows us the boot failure error.
I hope your doubt clarified...
Does the OS get this information from the BIOS or does it scan the buses on its own to detect what hardware is installed on the system. Having looked around online different sources say different things. Some saying the BIOS detects the hardware and then stores it in memory which the OS then reads, others saying the OS scans buses (e.g pci) to learn of the hardware.
I would have thought with modern OSs it would ignore the BIOS and do it itself.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks.
Generally speaking, most modern OSes (Windows and Linux) will re-scan the detected hardware as part of the boot sequence. Trusting the BIOS to detect everything and have it setup properly has proven to be unreliable.
In a typical x86 PC, there are a combination of techniques used to detect attached hardware.
PCI and PCI Express busses has a standard mechanism called Configuration Space that you can scan to get a list of attached devices. This includes devices installed in a PCI/PCIe slot, and also the controller(s) in the chipset (Video Controller, SATA, etc).
If an IDE or SATA controller is detected, the OS/BIOS must talk to the controller to get a list of attached drives.
If a USB controller is detected, the OS/BIOS loaded a USB protocol stack, and then enumerates the attached hubs and devices.
For "legacy" ISA devices, things are a little more complicated. Even if your motherboard does not have an ISA slot on it, you typically still have a number of "ISA" devices in the system (Serial Ports, Parallel Ports, etc). These devices typically lack a truly standardized auto-detection method. To detect these devices, there are 2 options:
Probe known addresses - Serial Ports are usually at 0x3F8, 0x2F8, 0x3E8, 0x2E8, so read from those addresses and see if there is something there that looks like a serial port UART. This is far from perfect. You may have a serial port at a non-standard address that are not scanned. You may also have a non-serial port device at one of those addresses that does not respond well to being probed. Remember how Windows 95 and 98 used to lock up a lot when detecting hardware during installation?
ISA Plug-n-Play - This standard was popular for a hot minute as ISA was phased out in favor of PCI. You probably will not encounter many devices that support this. I believe ISA PnP is disabled by default in Windows Vista and later, but I am struggling to find a source for that right now.
ACPI Enumeration - The OS can rely on the BIOS to describe these devices in ASL code. (See below.)
Additionally, there may be a number of non-PnP devices in the system at semi-fixed addresses, such as a TPM chip, HPET, or those "special" buttons on laptop keyboards. For these devices to be explained to the OS, the standard method is to use ACPI.
The BIOS ACPI tables should provide a list of on-motherboard devices to the OS. These tables are written in a language called ASL (or AML for the compiled form). At boot time, the OS reads in the ACPI tables and enumerates any described devices. Note that for this to work, the motherboard manufacturer must have written their ASL code correctly. This is not always the case.
And of course, if all of the auto-detection methods fail you, you may be forced to manually install a driver. You do this through the Add New Hardware Wizard in Windows. (The exact procedure varies depending on the Windows version you have installed.)
I see a lot of info about system hardware, except for memory ,one of the main important part besides the cpu, which funnily isn't really mentioned as well.
This is fair because perhaps there's so many things to enumerate, you kind of lose sight of the forest through the trees.
For memory on x86/64 platforms you will want to query either BIOS or EFI for a memory map. for BIOS this is int 0x15 handle 0xe820. EFI has it's own mechanism which provides similar information.
This will show you which memory ranges are reserved by hardware etc. in order for your OS to know to leave them alone. (ok you have to built that part too of course ;D)
For other platforms, often the OS will be configured for a fixed memory size, like in embedded platforms. There is no BIOS for you, and performing a sort of bruteforce on memory is unreliable at best. (as far as i know! - not much experience outside of x86/64!!!)
For the CPU you will definitely want to look into MSRs, control registers and CPUID functions to enumerate the CPU and see what it's capable of. you can query if for example 64 bit mode is supported, and some other features which might not be present on all cpus.
For other hardware like pci etc, i would recommend like myron-semack said to look into PCI specification, pci-express, and importantly ACPI as implementing that will make you handle hardware and powermanagement a . bit more generically / according to newer standards.
We are doing research into running a server on a Pi, and communicating with it via a webapp (over a local network) to control 2-3 servos. It appears that the Rpi has only one hardware configured PWM pin, but this can be worked around via servoblaster. However, since Servoblaster utilizes the Rpi's DMA, will it interfere with the Pi's ability to operate a web server? I apologize if this question is unclear i am somewhat unfamiliar with the software/network concepts involved. Additionally, is there a good resource for understanding the DMA function further?
Thanks in advance for any help.
You can control Servos using Software PWM, which will not require any further hardware or using DMA
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As far as I understand it, any program gets compiled to a series of assembly instructions for the architecture it is running on. What I fail to understand is how the operating system interacts with peripherals such as a video card. Isn't the driver itself a series of assembly instructions for the CPU?
The only thing I can think think of is that it uses regions of memory that is then monitored by the peripheral or it uses the BUS to communicate operations and receive results. Is there a simple explanation to this process.
Sorry if this question is too general, it's something that's been bothering me.
You're basically right in your guess. Depending on the CPU architecture, peripherals might respond to "memory-mapped I/O" (where they watch for reads and writes to specific memory addresses), or to other specific I/O instructions (such as the x86 IN and OUT instructions).
Device drivers are OS-specific software, and provide an interface between the OS and the hardware.
A specific physical device either has hardware that knows how to respond to whatever signals from the CPU it monitors, or it has its own CPU and software that is often called firmware. The firmware of a device is not specific to any operating system and is usually stored in persistent memory on the device even after it is powered off. However, some peripherals might have firmware that is loaded by the device driver when the OS boots.
There are simple explanations and there are truthfull explanations - choose one!
I'll try a simple one: Along the assembly instructions, there are some, that are specialized to talk to peripherials. The hardware interprets them not by e.g. adding values in registers oder writing something to RAM, but by moving some data from a register or a region in RAM to a peripherial (or the other way round).
Inside the OS, the e.g. the sound driver is responsible for assembling some sound data along with some command data in RAM, and the OS then invokes the bus driver to issue these special instructions to move the command and data to the soundcard. The soundcard hardware will (hopefully) understand the command and interpret the data as sound it should play.
Recently, I'm trying to write a simple OS. This is a big project.
when I'm writing my code, I'm wondering how modern OS contact hardware under protected mode
In real mode, we can just call the bios interrupt to accomplish this job.
But I'm wondering how to accomplish this goal in protected mode.(Is it using in and out instruction??)
I traced some of the linux source code, but still can't find the appropriate code.
I know it is a basic question to many people, plz help me, tks.
and sorry about my poor English.
In protected mode, the CPU can run in either kernel mode or user mode. In kernel mode, you can always access the hardware. Calling BIOS interrupt is one old method, but a modern OS normally has its own device drivers for the hardware and does not call BIOS too often. If you know the hardware datasheet, you can use in, and out to access the hardware directly. Also, for modern PCI and PCI Express devices, they supported memory mapped IO (X86 CPU also supports this), and it means you can use mov to access the hardware.
For x86, the CPU also allows the user level program to access the hardware using in and out instructions. You can find it on Intel CPU manual. Just set DPL, CPL? (I forgot the correct name).
I guess you'd better read some book about device drivers, such as Linux Device Drivers, 3rd edition. http://lwn.net/Kernel/LDD3/