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I was under the impression that there are folks out there that do write pure applications using Scalaz, but based on this example: [ stacking StateT in scalaz ], it looks like anything real would also be impossibly hairy.
Are there any guidelines or examples of real, modular, loosely-coupled, pure applications in Scala? I'm expecting that this means scalaz.effect.SafeApp and RWST over IO, but I'd like to hear from folks who have done it.
Thanks.
Edit: In the absence of an answer, I've started collecting resources as an answer below. If you have any examples or related links to contribute, please do.
i think you are mixing two different things. one is pure functional programming and second is scala type system. you can do 'pure' programming in any language, even in java. if the language is funvtional than you will have pure functional programming.
does it make your programs work faster? depends on the program - it scales better but for single threaded parts you will rather loose performance.
does it 'save your cognition'? it depends on how good you are in what you are doing. if you work with FP, monads, arrows etc on the daily basis then i assume it may help significantly. if you show the code to the OO developer he probably won't understand anything.
does it save the development time? as previously, i think it may but to be honest it doesn't matter that much. you more often read the code rather than write it
can you do useful stuff in PFP? yes, some companies makes money on haskell
and now, can it be done in scala? for sure. will anyone do it in scala? probably not because it's too easy to break the purity, because type system is too weak and because there are better, 'more pure' tools for it (but currently not on jvm)
I guess I will start collecting resources here, and update as I find more.
Functional Reactive Programming: stefan hoeck's blog, github, examples
Monadic effect worlds for interacting safely with mutable data. (tpolecat)
Mellow database access for Scala (tpolecat)
Dependency Injection without the Gymnastics (tony, rúnar)
Google search for "extends SafeApp"
I have been delivering training on Programming Practices and on Writing Quality Code to participants who have been working on Java since sometime. Object Oriented Analysis and Design is the base and I cover S.O.L.I.D. Principles and excerpts from books like Clean Code, Code Complete 2 and so on.
I am scheduled to deliver training to Perl Programmers(with less than 1 yr. exp. in Perl) in two days and they do not use the Moose(an extension of the Perl 5 object system which brings modern object-oriented language features).
I am now confused as to how to structure my training as they don't follow OOPs.
Any suggestions?
Regards,
Shardul.
Even without Moose, object-oriented programming in Perl is quite possible, and very common. Many CPAN modules offer their functionality through an object-oriented API, even if many of these also offer a non–object-oriented API. (A good example of this duality is IO::Compress::Zip.) Obviously the norms of object-oriented design in Perl are somewhat different from those in some languages — encapsulation is not enforced by the language, for example — but the overall principles and practices are the same.
And even without any sort of object-oriented programming, Moosish or otherwise, there's plenty to talk about in terms of laying out packages, organizing code into functions/subroutines/modules, structuring data, taking advantage of use warnings (or -w) and use strict and -T and CPAN modules, and so on.
I'd also recommend Mark Jason Dominus's book Higher-Order Perl, which he has made available for free download. I don't know to what extent you can race through the whole book in a day and put together something useful in time for your presentation — functional programming is a bit of a paradigm-shift for someone who's not used to it (be it you, or the programmers you're presenting to!) — but you may find some useful things in there that you can use.
A lot of the answers here are answers about teaching OOP to Perl programmers who don't use it, but your question sounds like you're stymied on how to teach a course on code quality, in light of the fact that your Perl programmers do not use OOP, not specifically that you want to teach OOP to non-OO programmers and force them into that paradigm.
That leaves us with two other paradigms of programming which Perl supports well enough:
Good ol' fashioned Structured Programming also Modular Programming
Functional programming support in Perl (also Higher-Order Perl)
I use both of these--combined with a healthy dose of objects, as well. So, I use objects for the same reason that I use good structure and modules and functional pipelines. Using the tool that brings order and sanity to the programming process. For example, object-oriented programming is the main form of polymorphism--but OOP is not polymorphism itself. Thus if you are writing idioms that assist in polymorphism, they assist in polymorphism, they don't have to be stuck in some ad-hoc library "class" and called like UtilClass->meta_operator( $object ) which has little polymorphism itself.
Moose is a great object language, but you don't call Moose->has( attribute => is => 'rw', isa => 'object' ). You call the operator has. The power of Moose lies in a library of objects that encapsulate the meta-operations on classes--but also in simple expressive operators that the rather open syntax of Perl allows. I would call that the appreciation of solving the problems that OOP solves with objects.
Also, I guess I have a problem with your problem, because "not OOP" is a big field. It can range from everything-in-the-mainline coding to not-strictly-OOP (where the process of programming is not simply OOP analysis). So I think you have to know your audience and know what it is they use to keep that code structured and sane. I can't imagine a modern Perl audience that isn't at least object-users.
From there, Perl Best Practices (often abbreviated PBP) can help you. But so would learning that
simply because OOP is one of the best supports for polymorphism it isn't polymorphism in itself
simply because OOP is one of the best supports for encapsulation it isn't encapsulation in itself.
That OOP has been assisted by structured and modular programming--and is not by itself those things. Some of its power is simply just those disciplines.
In addition, as big as an object author and consumer I am, OOP is not the way I think. Reusability is the way I think: What have I done before that I do not want to write again? What have I written that is similar? How can I make my current task just an adapter of what has been written before. (And often: how can I sneak my behavior branch an established module in a single line?)
As a result, a number of my constructs would fail the pedestrian goal of OOP. To give you a better view: I divide code into two "domains": Highly abstract and polymorphic Library code, and the Scripting that I need to do to get the particular function that I'm required in a current project. (this is essentially what "application" means, but I don't think it would be as clear). As a result, polymorphism is mainly instrumental in providing adaptability, but the adaptation itself is whatever takes the least lines of code. My optimum system would be a library that allows scripting/adaptation at any juncture between library behavior and a set of configurations or scripts that address a particular problem. Again, if I had my druthers, configuration would be injected from the scripted domain and no library code would say "I need a properties file" by itself, unless it was a library module encapsulating the algorithm of configuration instanced in properties files. It would just know that it needs "policies" (or decisions from the application domain) in order to fulfil its function.
Thus, my ideal application contains special purpose "objects", which conform to "roles" but where classes are useless overhead--except that the classes perform the behavior which allow injectable data and behavior. So some of my Perl "objects" violate OOP analysis, because they are simply encapsulations of one-off solutions, kind of like the push-pin (expando) JavaScript objects.
I will often (later) revise a special-purpose object and push it further back into the library domain as I find that I need to write something like this again. All objects in the library domain are just on some level of the spectrum of specified behavior. Also, I arrange "data networks" where there is a Sourced type of class that simply encapsulates the behavior of accessing data either in the object itself or another source object. This helps speed my solutions immensely, but I've never seen it addressed in any duck-cat-dog-car-truck OOP primer. Also templating--especially when combined with "data networks"--immensely useful in coding solutions in a half-dozen lines or a half-day of work.
So I guess I'm saying, to the extent that you only know OOP for structuring programming, you won't be able to appreciate how much some older, sound practices or other paradigms do for you--or how things that qualify as OOP can promote mediocre adaptability. (Besides components are far more current than "objects".) Encapsulation solves many problems, but it also promotes the lack of data where you need it. The idea is to get data where you need it so that your canned behavior can realize the specifics of the problem and operate on that.
Reread some stuff on structured programming
Read some stuff on functional programming (assuming that you're not already familiar with it.)
Also it's possible that even an established, "productive" Perl team is writing ... crap. If they are not OOP programmers because they are simply writing crap code, then by all means teach them OOP and if they lack even structured programming *shove both of them down their throats* (I have a hard time considering the label "professional", here).
Take a good look at 'Perl Best Practices' by Damian Conway. It has lots of solid material in it, and you won't go far wrong taking his advice.
Be aware, though, that Getopt::Clade is only available as a placeholder package - it is vapourware, in other words.
You might want to look at what's covered in the "Modern Perl" book too:
http://onyxneon.com/books/modern_perl/
As the others say - plenty to cover without Moose.
Setting up modules/distros
Testing and TAP
Deployment with cpanm / cpan / local::lib
Important changes 5.8 5.10 vs 5.12 vs 5.14, autodie etc.
Perl programmers must know about Perl's weakly functional features, like list contexts, map, grep, etc. A little functional style makes Perl infinitely more readable.
Perl programmers must also understand Perl's traditional OO features, especially modules, bless, and tie. Make them write an object or maybe tie a Cache::Memcached object around a query or something.
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Why is Lisp used for AI?
What makes a language suitable for Artificial Intelligence development?
I've heard that LISP and Prolog are widely used in this field. What features make them suitable for AI?
Overall I would say the main thing I see about languages "preferred" for AI is that they have high order programming along with many tools for abstraction.
It is high order programming (aka functions as first class objects) that tends to be a defining characteristic of most AI languages http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higher-order_programming that I can see. That article is a stub and it leaves out Prolog http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prolog which allows high order "predicates".
But basically high order programming is the idea that you can pass a function around like a variable. Surprisingly a lot of the scripting languages have functions as first class objects as well. LISP/Prolog are a given as AI languages. But some of the others might be surprising. I have seen several AI books for Python. One of them is http://www.nltk.org/book. Also I have seen some for Ruby and Perl. If you study more about LISP you will recognize a lot of its features are similar to modern scripting languages. However LISP came out in 1958...so it really was ahead of its time.
There are AI libraries for Java. And in Java you can sort of hack functions as first class objects using methods on classes, it is harder/less convenient than LISP but possible. In C and C++ you have function pointers, although again they are much more of a bother than LISP.
Once you have functions as first class objects, you can program much more generically than is otherwise possible. Without functions as first class objects, you might have to construct sum(array), product(array) to perform the different operations. But with functions as first class objects you could compute accumulate(array, +) and accumulate(array, *). You could even do accumulate(array, getDataElement, operation). Since AI is so ill defined that type of flexibility is a great help. Now you can build much more generic code that is much easier to extend in ways that were not originally even conceived.
And Lambda (now finding its way all over the place) becomes a way to save typing so that you don't have to define every function. In the previous example, instead of having to make getDataElement(arrayelement) { return arrayelement.GPA } somewhere you can just say accumulate(array, lambda element: return element.GPA, +). So you don't have to pollute your namespace with tons of functions to only be called once or twice.
If you go back in time to 1958, basically your choices were LISP, Fortran, or Assembly. Compared to Fortran LISP was much more flexible (unfortunately also less efficient) and offered much better means of abstraction. In addition to functions as first class objects, it also had dynamic typing, garbage collection, etc. (stuff any scripting language has today). Now there are more choices to use as a language, although LISP benefited from being first and becoming the language that everyone happened to use for AI. Now look at Ruby/Python/Perl/JavaScript/Java/C#/and even the latest proposed standard for C you start to see features from LISP sneaking in (map/reduce, lambdas, garbage collection, etc.). LISP was way ahead of its time in the 1950's.
Even now LISP still maintains a few aces in the hole over most of the competition. The macro systems in LISP are really advanced. In C you can go and extend the language with library calls or simple macros (basically a text substitution). In LISP you can define new language elements (think your own if statement, now think your own custom language for defining GUIs). Overall LISP languages still offer ways of abstraction that the mainstream languages still haven't caught up with. Sure you can define your own custom compiler for C and add all the language constructs you want, but no one does that really. In LISP the programmer can do that easily via Macros. Also LISP is compiled and per the programming language shootout, it is more efficient than Perl, Python, and Ruby in general.
Prolog basically is a logic language made for representing facts and rules. What are expert systems but collections of rules and facts. Since it is very convenient to represent a bunch of rules in Prolog, there is an obvious synergy there with expert systems.
Now I think using LISP/Prolog for every AI problem is not a given. In fact just look at the multitude of Machine Learning/Data Mining libraries available for Java. However when you are prototyping a new system or are experimenting because you don't know what you are doing, it is way easier to do it with a scripting language than a statically typed one. LISP was the earliest languages to have all these features we take for granted. Basically there was no competition at all at first.
Also in general academia seems to like functional languages a lot. So it doesn't hurt that LISP is functional. Although now you have ML, Haskell, OCaml, etc. on that front as well (some of these languages support multiple paradigms...).
The main calling card of both Lisp and Prolog in this particular field is that they support metaprogramming concepts like lambdas. The reason that is important is that it helps when you want to roll your own programming language within a programming language, like you will commonly want to do for writing expert system rules.
To do this well in a lower-level imperative language like C, it is generally best to just create a separate compiler or language library for your new (expert system rule) language, so you can write your rules in the new language and your actions in C. This is the principle behind things like CLIPS.
The two main things you want are the ability to do experimental programming and the ability to do unconventional programming.
When you're doing AI, you by definition don't really know what you're doing. (If you did, it wouldn't be AI, would it?) This means you want a language where you can quickly try things and change them. I haven't found any language I like better than Common Lisp for that, personally.
Similarly, you're doing something not quite conventional. Prolog is already an unconventional language, and Lisp has macros that can transform the language tremendously.
What do you mean by "AI"? The field is so broad as to make this question unanswerable. What applications are you looking at?
LISP was used because it was better than FORTRAN. Prolog was used, too, but no one remembers that. This was when people believed that symbol-based approaches were the way to go, before it was understood how hard the sensing and expression layers are.
But modern "AI" (machine vision, planners, hell, Google's uncanny ability to know what you 'meant') is done in more efficient programming languages that are more sustainable for a large team to develop in. This usually means C++ these days--but it's not like anyone thinks of C++ as a good language for AI.
Hell, you can do a lot of what was called "AI" in the 70s in MATLAB. No one's ever called MATLAB "a good language for AI" before, have they?
Functional programming languages are easier to parallelise due to their stateless nature. There seems to already be a subject about it with some good answers here: Advantages of stateless programming?
As said, its also generally simpler to build programs that generate programs in LISP due to the simplicity of the language, but this is only relevant to certain areas of AI such as evolutionary computation.
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Ok, I'll try and explain a bit about why parallelism is important to AI using Symbolic AI as an example, as its probably the area of AI that I understand best. Basically its what everyone was using back in the day when LISP was invented, and the Physical Symbol Hypothesis on which it is based is more or less the same way you would go about calculating and modelling stuff in LISP code. This link explains a bit about it:
http://www.cs.st-andrews.ac.uk/~mkw/IC_Group/What_is_Symbolic_AI_full.html
So basically the idea is that you create a model of your environment, then searching through it to find a solution. One of the simplest to algorithms to implement is a breadth first search, which is an exhaustive search of all possible states. While producing an optimal result, it is usually prohibitively time consuming. One way to optimise this is by using a heuristic (A* being an example), another is to divide the work between CPUs.
Due to statelessness, in theory, any node you expand in your search could be ran in a separate thread without the complexity or overhead involved in locking shared data. In general, assuming the hardware can support it, then the more highly you can parallelise a task the faster you will get your result. An example of this could be the folding#home project, which distributes work over many GPUs to find optimal protein folding configurations (that may not have anything to do with LISP, but is relevant to parallelism).
As far as I know from LISP is that is a Functional Programming Language, and with it you are able to make "programs that make programs. I don't know if my answer suits your needs, see above links for more information.
Pattern matching constructs with instantiation (or the ability to easily construct pattern matching code) are a big plus. Pattern matching is not totally necessary to do A.I., but it can sure simplify the code for many A.I. tasks. I'm finding this also makes F# a convenient language for A.I.
Languages per se (without libraries) are suitable/comfortable for specific areas of research/investigation and/or learning/studying ("how to do the simplest things in the hardest way").
Suitability for commercial development is determined by availability of frameworks, libraries, development tools, communities of developers, adoption by companies. For ex., in internet you shall find support for any, even the most exotic issue/areas (including, of course, AI areas), for ex., in C# because it is mainstream.
BTW, what specifically is context of question? AI is so broad term.
Update:
Oooops, I really did not expect to draw attention and discussion to my answer.
Under ("how to do the simplest things in the hardest way"), I mean that studying and learning, as well as academic R&D objectives/techniques/approaches/methodology do not coincide with objectives of (commercial) development.
In student (or even academic) projects one can write tons of code which would probably require one line of code in commercial RAD (using of component/service/feature of framework or library).
Because..! oooh!
Because, there is no sense to entangle/develop any discussion without first agreeing on common definitions of terms... which are subjective and depend on context... and are not so easy to be formulate in general/abstract context.
And this is inter-disciplinary matter of whole areas of different sciences
The question is broad (philosophical) and evasively formulated... without beginning and end... having no definitive answers without of context and definitions...
Are we going to develop here some spec proposal?
Maybe its because I've been coding around two semesters now, but the major stumbling block that I'm having at this point is converting the professor's project description and requirements to actual code. Since I'm currently in Algorithms 101, I basically do a bottom-up process, starting with a blank whiteboard and draw out the object and method interactions, then translate that into classes and code.
But now the prof has tossed interfaces and abstract classes into the mix. Intellectually, I can recognize how they work, but am stubbing my toes figuring out how to use these new tools with the current project (simulating a web server).
In my professors own words, mapping the abstract description to Java code is the real trick. So what steps are best used to go from English (or whatever your language is) to computer code? How do you decide where and when to create an interface, or use an abstract class?
So what steps are best used to go from English (or whatever your language is) to computer code?
Experience is what teaches you how to do this. If it's not coming naturally yet (and don't feel bad if it doesn't, because it takes a long time!), there are some questions you can ask yourself:
What are the main concepts of the system? How are they related to each other? If I was describing this to someone else, what words and phrases would I use? These thoughts will help you decide what classes are useful to think about.
What sorts of behaviors do these things have? Are there natural dependencies between them? (For example, a LineItem isn't relevant or meaningful without the context of an Order, nor is an Engine much use without a Car.) How do the behaviors affect the state of the other objects? Do they communicate with each other, and if so, in what way? These thoughts will help you develop the public interfaces of your classes.
That's just the tip of the iceberg, of course. For more about this thought process in general, see Eric Evans's excellent book, Domain-Driven Design.
How do you decide where and when to create an interface, or use an abstract class?
There's no hard and fast prescriptions; again, experience is the best guide here. That said, there's certainly some rules of thumb you can follow:
If several unrelated or significantly different object types all provide the same kind of functionality, use an interface. For example, if the Steerable interface has a Steer(Vector bearing) method, there may be lots of different things that can be steered: Boats, Airplanes, CargoShips, Cars, et cetera. These are completely unrelated things. But they all share the common interface of being able to be steered.
In general, try to favor an interface instead of an abstract base class. This way you can define a single implementation which implements N interfaces. In the case of Java, you can only have one abstract base class, so you're locked into a particular inheritance hierarchy once you say that a class inherits from another one.
Whenever you don't need implementation from a base class, definitely favor an interface over an abstract base class. This would also be handy if you're operating in a language where inheritance doesn't apply. For example, in C#, you can't have a struct inherit from a base class.
In general...
Read a lot of other people's code. Open source projects are great for that. Respect their licenses though.
You'll never get it perfect. It's an iterative process. Don't be discouraged if you don't get it right.
Practice. Practice. Practice.
Research often. Keep tackling more and more challenging projects / designs. Even if there are easy ones around.
There is no magic bullet, or algorithm for good design.
Nowadays I jump in with a design I believe is decent and work from that.
When the time is right I'll implement understanding the result will have to refactored ( rewritten ) sooner rather than later.
Give this project your best shot, keep an eye out for your mistakes and how things should've been done after you get back your results.
Keep doing this, and you'll be fine.
What you should really do is code from the top-down, not from the bottom-up. Write your main function as clearly and concisely as you can using APIs that you have not yet created as if they already existed. Then, you can implement those APIs in similar fashion, until you have functions that are only a few lines long. If you code from the bottom-up, you will likely create a whole lot of stuff that you don't actually need.
In terms of when to create an interface... pretty much everything should be an interface. When you use APIs that don't yet exist, assume that every concrete class is an implementation of some interface, and use a declared type that is indicative of that interface. Your inheritance should be done solely with interfaces. Only create concrete classes at the very bottom when you are providing an implementation. I would suggest avoiding abstract classes and just using delegation, although abstract classes are also reasonable when two different implementations differ only slightly and have several functions that have a common implementation. For example, if your interface allows one to iterate over elements and also provides a sum function, the sum function is a trivial to implement in terms of the iteration function, so that would be a reasonable use of an abstract class. An alternative would be to use the decorator pattern in that case.
You might also find the Google Techtalk "How to Design a Good API and Why it Matters" to be helpful in this regard. You might also be interested in reading some of my own software design observations.
Also, for the coming future, you can keep in pipeline to read the basics on domain driven design to align yourself to the real world scenarios - it gives a solid foundation for requirements mapping to the real classes.
I'm just learning Perl.
When is it advisable to use OO Perl instead of non-OO Perl?
My tendency would be to always prefer OO unless the project is just a code snippet of < 10 lines.
TIA
From Damian Conway:
10 criteria for knowing when to use object-oriented design
Design is large, or is likely to become large
When data is aggregated into obvious structures, especially if there’s a lot of data in each aggregate
For instance, an IP address is not a good candidate: There’s only 4 bytes of information related to an IP address. An immigrant going through customs has a lot of data related to him, such as name, country of origin, luggage carried, destination, etc.
When types of data form a natural hierarchy that lets us use inheritance.
Inheritance is one of the most powerful feature of OO, and the ability to use it is a flag.
When operations on data varies on data type
GIFs and JPGs might have their cropping done differently, even though they’re both graphics.
When it’s likely you’ll have to add data types later
OO gives you the room to expand in the future.
When interactions between data is best shown by operators
Some relations are best shown by using operators, which can be overloaded.
When implementation of components is likely to change, especially in the same program
When the system design is already object-oriented
When huge numbers of clients use your code
If your code will be distributed to others who will use it, a standard interface will make maintenence and safety easier.
When you have a piece of data on which many different operations are applied
Graphics images, for instance, might be blurred, cropped, rotated, and adjusted.
When the kinds of operations have standard names (check, process, etc)
Objects allow you to have a DB::check, ISBN::check, Shape::check, etc without having conflicts between the types of check.
There is a good discussion about same subject # PerlMonks.
Having Moose certainly makes it easier to always use OO from the word go. The only real exception is if compilation start-up is an issue (Moose does currently have a compile time overhead).
I don't think you should measure it by lines of code.
You are right, often when you are just writing a simple script OO is probably too much overhead, but I think you should be more flexible regarding the 10 lines aproach.
In all cases when you are using OO Perl Rememebr to use Moose (or Mouse)
This question doesn't have that much to do with Perl. The question is "when, given a choice, should I use OO?" That "given a choice" bit is because in some languages (Java, for example), you really don't have any choice.
The answer is "when it makes sense". Think about the problem you're trying to solve. Does the problem fit into the OO concepts of classes and object? If it does, great, use OO. Otherwise use some other paradigm.
Perl is fairly flexible, and you can easily write procedural, functional, or OO Perl, or even mix them together. Don't get hung up on doing OO because everyone else is. Learn to use the right approach for each task.
All of this takes experience and practice, so make sure to try all these approaches out, and maybe even take some smaller problems and solve them in multiple ways to see how each works.
Damian Conway has a passage in Perl Best Practices about this. It is not a rule that you have to follow it, but it is probably better advice that I can give without knowing a lot about what you are doing.
Here is the publisher's page if that is a better place to link to the book.