This is related to my last question.
We have an app where we are storing large amounts of data per user. Because of the nature of data, previously we decided to create a new database for each user. This would have required a large no. of databases (probably millions) -- and as someone pointed out in a comment, that this indicated wrong design.
So we changed the design and now we are thinking about storing each user's entire information in one collection. This means one collection exactly maps to one user. Since there are 12,000 collections available per database, we can store 12,000 users per DB (and this limit could be increased).
But, now my question is -- is there any limit on the no. of documents a collection can have. Because of the way we need to store data per user, we expect to have a huge (tens of millions in extreme cases) no. of document per documents. Is that OK for MongoDB and design-wise?
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Thanks for the answers. I guess then it's OK to use large no of documents per collection.
The app is a specialized inventory control system. Each user has a large no. of little pieces of information related to them. Each piece of information has a category and some related stuff under that category. Moreover, no two collections need to see each other's data -- hence an index that touch more than one collection is not needed.
To adjust the number of collections/indexes you can have (~24k is the limit--~12k is what they say for collections because you have the _id index by default, but keep in mind, if you have more indexes on the collections, that will use namespace up as well), you can use the --nssize option when you start up mongod.
There are plenty of implementations around with billions of documents in a collection (and I'm sure there are several with trillions), so "tens of millions" should be fine. There are some numbers such as counts returned that have constraints of 64 bits, so after you hit 2^64 documents you might find some issues.
What sort of query and update load are you going to be looking at?
Your design still doesn't make much sense. Why store each user in a separate collection?
What indexes do you have on the data? If you are indexing by some field that has content that's common across all the users you'll get a significant saving in total index size by having a single collection with one index.
Index size is often the limiting factor not total database size when it comes to performance.
Why do you have so many documents per user? How large are they?
Craigslist put 2+ billion documents in MongoDB so that shouldn't be an issue if you have the hardware to support it and aren't being inefficient with your indexes.
If you posted more of your schema here you'd probably get better advice.
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I am designing a system with MongoDb (64 bit version) to handle a large amount of users (around 100,000) and each user will have large amounts of data (around 1 million records).
What is the best strategy of design?
Dump all records in single collection
Have a collection for each user
Have a database for each user.
Many Thanks,
So you're looking at somewhere in the region of 100 billion records (1 million records * 100,000 users).
The preferred way to deal with large amounts of data is to create a sharded cluster that splits the data out over several servers that are presented as single logical unit via the mongo client.
Therefore the answer to your question is put all your records in a single sharded collection.
The number of shards required and configuration of the cluster is related to the size of the data and other factors such as the quantity and distribution of reads and writes. The answers to those questions are probably very specific to your unique situation, so I won't attempt to guess them.
I'd probably start by deciding how many shards you have the time and machines available to set up and testing the system on a cluster of that many machines. Based on the performance of that, you can decide whether you need more or fewer shards in your cluster
So you are looking for 100,000,000 detail records overall for 100K users?
What many people don't seem to understand is that MongoDB is good at horizontal scaling. Horizontal scaling is normally classed as scaling huge single collections of data across many (many) servers in a huge cluster.
So already if you use a single collection for common data (i.e. one collection called user and one called detail) you are suiting MongoDBs core purpose and build.
MongoDB, as mentioned, by others is not so good at scaling vertically across many collections. It has a nssize limit to begin with and even though 12K initial collections is estimated in reality due to index size you can have as little as 5K collections in your database.
So a collection per user is not feasible at all. It would be using MongoDB against its core principles.
Having a database per user involves the same problems, maybe more, as having singular collections per user.
I have never encountered some one not being able to scale MongoDB to the billions or even close to the 100s of billions (or maybe beyond) on a optimised set-up, however, I do not see why it cannot; after all Facebook is able to make MySQL scale into the 100s of billions per user (across 32K+ shards) for them and the sharding concept is similar between the two databases.
So the theory and possibility of doing this is there. It is all about choosing the right schema and shard concept and key (and severs and network etc etc etc etc).
If you were to witness problems you could go for splitting archive collections, or deleted items away from the main collection but I think that is overkill, instead you want to make sure that MongoDB knows where each segment of your huge dataset is at any given point in time on the master and ensure that this data is always hot, that way queries that don't do a global and scatter OP should be quite fast.
About a collection on each users:
By default configuration, MongoDB is limited to 12k collections. You can increase the size of this with --nssize but it's not unlimited.
And you have to count index into this 12k. (check "namespaces" concept on mongo documentation).
About a database for each user:
For a model point of view, that's very curious.
For technical, there is no limit on mongo, but you probably have a limit with file descriptor (limit from you OS/settings).
So as #Rohit says, the two last are not good.
Maybe you should explain more about your case.
Maybe you can cut users into different collections (ex: one for each first letter of name etc., or for each service of the company...).
And, of course use sharding.
Edit: maybe MongoDb is not the best database for your use case.
I have a query for a collection. I am filtering by one field. I thought, I can speed up query, if based on this field I make many separate collections, which collection's name would contain that field name, in previous approach I filtered with. Practically I could remove filter component in a query, because I need only pick the right collection and return documents in it as response. But in this way ducoments will be stored redundantly, a document earlier was stored only once, now document might be stored in more collections. Is this approach worth to follow? I use Heroku as cloud provider. By increasing of the number of dynos, it is easy to serve more user request. As I know read operations in MongoDB are highly mutual, parallel executed. Locking occure on document level. Is it possible gain any advantage by increasing redundancy? Of course index exists for that field.
If it's still within the same server, I believe there may be little parallelization gain (from the database side) in doing it this way, because for a single server, it matters little how your document is logically structured.
All the server cares about is how many collection and indexes you have, since it stores those collections and associated indexes in a number of files. It will need to load these files as the collection is accessed.
What could potentially be an issue is if you have a massive number of collections as a result, where you could hit the open file limit. Note that the open file limit is also shared with connections, so with a lot of collections, you're indirectly reducing the number of possible connections.
For illustration, let's say you have a big collection with e.g. 5 indexes on them. The WiredTiger storage engine stores the collection as:
1 file containing the collection data
1 file containing the _id index
5 files containing the 5 secondary indexes
Total = 7 files.
Now you split this one collection across e.g. 100 collections. Assuming the collections also requires 5 secondary indexes, in total they will need 700 files in WiredTiger (vs. of the original 7). This may or may not be desirable from your ops point of view.
If you require more parallelization if you're hitting some ops limit, then sharding is the recommended method. Sharding the busy collection across many different shards (servers) will immediately give you better parallelization vs. a single server/replica set, given a properly chosen shard key designed to maximize parallelization.
Having said that, sharding also requires more infrastructure and may complicate your backup/restore process. It will also require considerable planning and testing to ensure your design is optimal for your use case, and will scale well into the future.
So just a quick best practice question here. How do I know when I should create new collections in MongoDB?
I have an app that queries TV show data. Should each show have its own collection, or should they all be store within one collection with relevant data in the same document. Please explain why you chose the approach you did. (I'm still very new to MongoDB. I'm used to MySql.)
The Two Most Popular Approaches to Schema Design in MongoDB
Embed data into documents and store them in a single collection.
Normalize data across multiple collections.
Embedding Data
There are several reasons why MongoDB doesn't support joins across collections, and I won't get into all of them here. But the main reason why we don't need joins is because we can embed relevant data into a single hierarchical JSON document. We can think of it as pre-joining the data before we store it. In the relational database world, this amounts to denormalizing our data. In MongoDB, this is about the most routine thing we can do.
Normalizing Data
Even though MongoDB doesn't support joins, we can still store related data across multiple collections and still get to it all, albeit in a round about way. This requires us to store a reference to a key from one collection inside another collection. It sounds similar to relational databases, but MongoDB doesn't enforce any of key constraints for us like most relational databases do. Enforcing key constraints is left entirely up to us. We're good enough to manage it though, right?
Accessing all related data in this way means we're required to make at least one query for every collection the data is stored across. It's up to each of us to decide if we can live with that.
When to Embed Data
Embed data when that embedded data will be accessed at the same time as the rest of the document. Pre-joining data that is frequently used together reduces the amount of code we have to write to query across multiple collections. It also reduces the number of round trips to the server.
Embed data when that embedded data only pertains to that single document. Like most rules, we need to give this some thought before blindly following it. If we're storing an address for a user, we don't need to create a separate collection to store addresses just because the user might have a roommate with the same address. Remember, we're not normalizing here, so duplicating data to some degree is ok.
Embed data when you need "transaction-like" writes. Prior to v4.0, MongoDB did not support transactions, though it does guarantee that a single document write is atomic. It'll write the document or it won't. Writes across multiple collections could not be made atomic, and update anomalies could occur for how many ever number of scenarios we can imagine. This is no longer the case since v4.0, however it is still more typical to denormalize data to avoid the need for transactions.
When to Normalize Data
Normalize data when data that applies to many documents changes frequently. So here we're talking about "one to many" relationships. If we have a large number of documents that have a city field with the value "New York" and all of a sudden the city of New York decides to change its name to "New-New York", well then we have to update a lot of documents. Got anomalies? In cases like this where we suspect other cities will follow suit and change their name, then we'd be better off creating a cities collection containing a single document for each city.
Normalize data when data grows frequently. When documents grow, they have to be moved on disk. If we're embedding data that frequently grows beyond its allotted space, that document will have to be moved often. Since these documents are bigger each time they're moved, the process only grows more complex and won't get any better over time. By normalizing those embedded parts that grow frequently, we eliminate the need for the entire document to be moved.
Normalize data when the document is expected to grow larger than 16MB. Documents have a 16MB limit in MongoDB. That's just the way things are. We should start breaking them up into multiple collections if we ever approach that limit.
The Most Important Consideration to Schema Design in MongoDB is...
How our applications access and use data. This requires us to think? Uhg! What data is used together? What data is used mostly as read-only? What data is written to frequently? Let your applications data access patterns drive your schema, not the other way around.
The scope you've described is definitely not too much for "one collection". In fact, being able to store everything in a single place is the whole point of a MongoDB collection.
For the most part, you don't want to be thinking about querying across combined tables as you would in SQL. Unlike in SQL, MongoDB lets you avoid thinking in terms of "JOINs"--in fact MongoDB doesn't even support them natively.
See this slideshare:
http://www.slideshare.net/mongodb/migrating-from-rdbms-to-mongodb?related=1
Specifically look at slides 24 onward. Note how a MongoDB schema is meant to replace the multi-table schemas customary to SQL and RDBMS.
In MongoDB a single document holds all information regarding a record. All records are stored in a single collection.
Also see this question:
MongoDB query multiple collections at once
I am having some trouble which schema design to pick, i have a document which holds user info each user have a very big set of items that can be up to 20k items.
an item have a date and an id and 19 other fields and also an internal array which can have 20-30 items , and it can be modified,deleted and of course newly inserted and queried by any property that it holds.
so i came up with 2 possible schemas.
1.Putting everything into a single docment
{_id:ObjectId("") type:'user' name:'xxx' items:[{.......,internalitems:[]},{.......,internalitems:[]},...]}
{_id:ObjectId("") type:'user' name:'yyy' items:[{.......,internalitems:[]},{.......,internalitems:[]},...]}
2.Seperating the items from the user and letting eachitem have its own
document
{_id:ObjectId(""), type:'user', username:'xxx'}
{_id:ObjectId(""), type:'user', username:'yyy'}
{_id:ObjectId(""), type:'useritem' username:'xxx' item:{.......,internalitems:[]}]}
{_id:ObjectId(""), type:'useritem' username:'xxx' item:{.......,internalitems:[]}]}
{_id:ObjectId(""), type:'useritem' username:'yyy' item:{.......,internalitems:[]}]}
{_id:ObjectId(""), type:'useritem' username:'yyy' item:{.......,internalitems:[]}]}
as i explained before a single user can have thousands of items and i have tens of users, internalitems can have 20-30 items, and it has 9 fields
considering that a single item can be queried by different users and can be modified only by the owner and another process.
if performance is really important which design would you pick?
if you pick neither of them what schema can you suggest?
on a side note i will be sharding and i have a single collection for everything.
I wouldn't recommend the first approach, there is a limit to the maximum document size:
"The maximum BSON document size is 16 megabytes.
The maximum document size helps ensure that a single document cannot use excessive amount of RAM or, during transmission, excessive amount of bandwidth. To store documents larger than the maximum size, MongoDB provides the GridFS API. See mongofiles and the documentation for your driver for more information about GridFS."
Source: http://docs.mongodb.org/manual/reference/limits/
There is also a performance implication if you exceed the current allocated document space when updating (http://docs.mongodb.org/manual/core/write-performance/ "Document Growth").
Your first solution is susceptible to both of these issues.
The second one is (Disclaimer: In the case of 20-30 internal items) is less susceptible of reaching the limit but still might require reallocation when doing updates. I haven't had this issue with a similar scenario, so this might be the way to go. And you might wanna look into Record Padding(http://docs.mongodb.org/manual/core/record-padding/) for some more details.
And, if all else fails, you can always split the internal items out as well.
Hope this helps!
Assuming I have an user who has an ID and I want to store a historical record (document) on this user every day, what is better:
create a new document for each record and search for the user id; or
keep updating and embedding that data into one single user document which keeps growing over time?
Mostly I want to retrieve only the current document for the user but all records should be accessible at any time without a super long search/query.
There are a lot of variables that can affect such a decision. One big document seems most obvious provided it doesn't grow to unpractically large or even disallowed sizes (mind you, a document can be at most 16MB in size).
Using document per entry is also perfectly viable and provided you create the appropriate indexes should not result in slow queries.
There is a limit to how big a document can be. It's (as of v1.8) 16 MB. So you can simply run out of room if you update & embed. Also, mongo allocates document space based on average document size in a collection. If you keep adjusting/resizing this might have negative performance implications.
I think it's much safer to create new documents for each record and if/when you want to collate that data, you do it in a map/reduce job.