I've never done a notification service on web client and I just would like to know what is the most common pattern.
Like if the server has to push the client or if it's the client which needs to get the server info every minutes for example.
Or if there is another pattern.
There are multiple ways to implement push notifications:
HTTP Long Polling : The client initiates a request. The server checks if it has any new notifications. Irrespective of whether or not it has new notifications appropriate response is send and connection is closed. After time X client initiates another request (+ Very easy to implement - notifications are not real time. They depend on X since data retrieval is client initiated. As X decreases overhead on server increases )
HTTP Streaming: This is very similar to HTTP Long Polling however the connection is not closed. The server sends chunked response. So as soon as server receives new notification that it wants to push it can simply write to the socket. ( + lower latency than long polling and almost real time behaviour / overhead of closing connection and re opening reduced - memory usage client side keeps on piling up / ugly hacks etc )
WebSocket: TCP based protocol provides true two way communication. The server can push data to client any time. ( + ve: true real time - some older browsers dont support it ). Read more about it WebSocket.org | About WebSocket
Now based on the technology stack there are various solutions available:
(A) Nodejs : the cross-browser WebSocket for realtime apps. ( does heavy lifting for you. Gracefully falls back in case websocket is not supported )
(B) Django : As mentioned previously you can use signals for notifications. Also you can try django-websocket 0.3.0 for supporting websocket
(C) Jetty / Netty and Grizzly (Java based) : All have websocket support
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This depends on what web framework you use. With a modern framework like meteor, it's very easy for the server to push notifications to clients, and many kinds of display updates can happen automatically, without having to construct a notification mechanism to take care of them.
Have a look at the two Meteor screencasts listed at http://meteor.com.
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Background
We are writing a Messenger-like app. We have setup Websockets to Inbox and Chat.
Question
My question is simple. What are the advantages and disadvantages when sending data from Client to Server using REST instead of Websockets? (I am not interested in updates now.)
We know that REST has higher overhead in terms of message sizes and that WS is duplex (thus open all time). What about the other things we didn't keep in mind?
Here's a summary of the tradeoffs I'm aware of.
Reasons to use webSocket:
You need/want server-push of data.
You are sending lots of small pieces of data from client to server and doing it very regularly. Using webSocket has significantly less overhead per transmission.
Reasons to use REST:
You want to use server-side frameworks or modules that are built for REST, not for webSocket (such as auth, rate limiting, security, streaming, etc...).
You aren't sending data very often from client to server and thus the server-side burden of keeping a webSocket connection open all the time may lessen your server scalability.
You want your client to run in places where a long-connected webSocket during inactive periods of time may not be practical (perhaps mobile).
You want your client to run in old browsers that don't support webSocket.
You want the browser to enforce same-origin restrictions (those are enforced for REST Ajax calls, but not for webSocket connections).
You don't want to have to write code that detects when the webSocket connection has died and then auto-reconnects and handles back-offs and handles mobile issues with battery usage issues, etc...
You need to run in situations where there are proxies or other network infrastructure that may not support long running webSocket connections.
If you want request/response built in. REST is request/response. WebSocket is not - it's message based. Responses from a webSocket are done by sending a messge back. That message back is not, by itself, a response to any specific request, it's just data being sent back. If you want request/response with webSocket, then you have to build some infrastructure yourself where you tag an id into a request and the response for that particular request contains that specific id. Otherwise, if there are every multiple requests in flight at the same time, then you don't know which response belongs with which request because all the data is being sent over the same connection and you would have no way of matching response with request.
If you want other clients to be able to carry out this operation via an Ajax call.
So, if you already have a webSocket implementation, don't have any problem with it that are lessened with REST and aren't interested in any of the reasons that REST might be better, then stick with your webSocket implementation.
Related references:
websocket vs rest API for real time data?
Ajax vs Socket.io
Adding comments per your request:
It sounds like you're expecting someone to tell you the "right" way to do it. There are reasons to pick one way over the other. If none of those reason compel you one way vs. the other, then it's just an architectural choice and you must take in the whole context of what you are doing and decide which architectural choice makes more sense to you. If you already have the reliably established webSocket connection and none of the advantages of REST apply to your situation then you can optimize for "efficiency" and send your data to the server over the webSocket connection.
On the other hand, if you wanted there to be a simple API on your server that could be reached with an Ajax call from other clients, then you'd want your server to support this operation via REST so it would simplest for these other clients to carry out this one operation. So, it all depends upon which direction your requirements drive you and, if there is no particular driving reason to go one way or the other, you just make an architectural choice yourself.
I'm working on a tool that involves clients/users installing a middleware layer in their application web server stack. This middleware (think Rack for Ruby, or Express for Node) would need to communicate back to my central server for status updates.
Now, I can have it just do a GET every now and then in order to get the latest status, but it occurs to me that it might be cool to use a websocket in order to open a persistent connection. That way, it doesn't have to do any periodic polling, instead just keeping alive a websocket. When a status change occurs, I send an update down the websocket and the client receives it instantly.
Assuming I've got a stack that can handle tons of idle websocket connections, is this a horrible use of websockets? I know it's traditionally used for server-browser communication, but it seems like it could also be useful for behind the scenes server-server calls as well.
Would this be better implemented as a more generic TCP socket communication instead of a websocket, something like ZeroMQ? I guess I don't have much experience at the socket layer, and REST/websockets are a lot more familiar to me.
I am currently working on a project that requires the client requesting a big job and sending it to the server. Then the server divides up the job and responds with an array of urls for the client to make a GET call on and stream back the data. I am the greenhorn on the project and I am currently using Spring websockets to improve efficiency. Instead of the clients constantly pinging the server to see if it has results ready to stream back, the websocket will now just directly contact the client hooray!
Would it be a bad idea to have websockets manage the whole process from end to end? I am using STOMP with Spring websockets, will there still be major issues with ditching REST?
With RESTful HTTP you have a stateless request/response system where the client sends request and server returns the response.
With webSockets you have a stateful (or potentially stateful) message passing system where messages can be sent either way and sending a message has a lower overhead than with a RESTful HTTP request/response.
The two are fairly different structures with different strengths.
The primary advantages of a connected webSocket are:
Two way communication. So, the server can notify the client of anything at any time. So, instead of polling a server on some regular interval to see if there is something new, a client can establish a webSocket and just listen for any messages coming from the server. From the server's point of view, when an event of interest for a client occurs, the server simply sends a message to the client. The server cannot do this with plain HTTP.
Lower overhead per message. If you anticipate a lot of traffic flowing between client and server, then there's a lower overhead per message with a webSocket. This is because the TCP connection is already established and you just have to send a message on an already open socket. With an HTTP REST request, you have to first establish a TCP connection which is several back and forths between client and server. Then, you send HTTP request, receive the response and close the TCP connection. The HTTP request will necessarily include some overhead such as all cookies that are aligned with that server even if those are not relevant to the particular request. HTTP/2 (newest HTTP spec) allows for some additional efficiency in this regard if it is being used by both client and server because a single TCP connection can be used for more than just a single request/response. If you charted all the requests/responses going on at the TCP level just to make an https REST request/response, you'd be surpised how much is going on compared to just sending a message over an already established webSocket.
Higher Scale in some circumstances. With lower overhead per message and no client polling to find out if something is new, this can lead to added scalability (higher number of clients a given server can serve). There are downsides to the webSocket scalability too (see below).
Stateful connections. Without resorting to cookies and session IDs, you can directly store state in your program for a given connection. While a lot of development has been done with stateless connections to solve most problems, sometimes it's just simpler with stateful connections.
The primary advantages of a RESTful HTTP request/response are:
Universal support. It's hard to get more universally supported than HTTP. While webSockets enjoy relatively good support now, there are still some circumstances where webSocket support isn't regularly available.
Compatible with more server environments. There are server environments that don't allow long running server processes (some shared hosting situations). These environments can support HTTP request, but can't support long running webSocket connections.
Higher Scale in some circumstances. The webSocket requirement for a continuously connected TCP socket adds some new scale requirements to the server infrastructure that HTTP requests don't demand. So, this ends up being a tradeoff space. If the advantages of webSockets aren't really needed or being used in a significant way, then HTTP requests might actually scale better. It definitely depends upon the specific usage profile.
For a one-off request/response, a single HTTP request is more efficient than establishing a webSocket, using it and then closing it. This is because opening a webSocket starts with an HTTP request/response and then after both sides have agreed to upgrade to a webSocket connection, the actual webSocket message can be sent.
Stateless. If your job is not made more complicated by having a stateless infrastruture, then a stateless world can make scaling or fail-over much easier (just add or remove server processes behind a load balancer).
Automatically Cacheable. With the right server settings, http responses can be cached by browser or by proxies. There is no such built-in mechanism for requests sent via webSockets.
So, to address the way you asked the question:
What are the pitfalls of using websockets in place of RESTful HTTP?
At large scale (hundreds of thousands of clients), you may have to do some special server work in order to support large numbers of simultaneously connected webSockets.
All possible clients or toolsets don't support webSockets or requests made over them to the same level they support HTTP requests.
Some of the less expensive server environments don't support the long running server processes required to support webSockets.
If it's important to your application to get progress notifications back to the client, you could either use a long running http connection with continuing progress being sent down or you can use a webSocket. The webSocket is likely easier. If you really only need the webSocket for the relatively short duration of this particular activity, then you may find the best overall set of tradeoffs comes by using a webSocket only for the duration of time when you need the ability to push data to the client and then using http requests for the normal request/response activities.
It really depends on your requirements. REST services can be much more transparent and easier to pick up by developer compared to Websockets.
Using Websockets, you remove most of the advantages that RESTful webservices offer, such as the ability to reference a resource via a URI. Really what you should be doing is to figure out what the advantages are of REST and hypermedia, and based on that decide whether those advantages are important to you.
It's of course entirely possible to create a RESTful webservice, and augment it with a a websocket-based API for real-time responses.
But if you are creating a service that only you are going to consume in a controlled environment, the only disadvantage might be that not every client supports websockets, while pretty much any type of environment can do a simple http call.
Can i avoid putting a timed event from client app which pings server, for event updates?
I am using Angularjs, Nodejs-expressjs, to build my web app.
The other alternative i can think of maybe socket.io.
Can i do something like
app.post('/abc', function(req, res){
if(event){
res.send('event data');
}
});
The above app.post will not return till the event happens.
There are multiple ways to implement push notifications:
HTTP Long Polling : The client initiates a request. The server checks if it has any new notifications. Irrespective of whether or not it has new notifications appropriate response is send and connection is closed. After time X client initiates another request (+ Very easy to implement - notifications are not real time. They depend on X since data retrieval is client initiated. As X decreases overhead on server increases )
HTTP Streaming: This is very similar to HTTP Long Polling however the connection is not closed. The server sends chunked response. So as soon as server receives new notification that it wants to push it can simply write to the socket. ( + lower latency than long polling and almost real time behaviour / overhead of closing connection and re opening reduced - memory usage client side keeps on piling up / ugly hacks etc )
WebSocket: TCP based protocol provides true two way communication. The server can push data to client any time. ( + ve: true real time - some older browsers dont support it ). Read more about it WebSocket.org | About WebSocket
Now based on the technology stack there are various solutions available: (A) Nodejs : the cross-browser WebSocket for realtime apps. ( does heavy lifting for you. Gracefully falls back in case websocket is not supported ) (B) Django : As mentioned previously you can use signals for notifications. Also you can try django-websocket 0.3.0 for supporting websocket (C) Jetty / Netty and Grizzly (Java based) : All have websocket support
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I'm supposed to implement a web application where the user log's in and by that registers for some sort of events (in this case, alarms). When an alarm happens, the server needs to push the alarm to all of the clients.
At the moment I'm using
GWT on the Client side
Jetty on the Server side
Is implementing the server push by using Jetty Continuations a good idea? My requirements are:
the number of clients will be quite small (<20) but could increase in the future
alarms must not get lost (i.e. if the client will be down, it must not miss any alarms)
if a client goes down, other clients need to be informed about it (or at least the admin should receive some sort of notification, e.g. by Mail).
The main reason for using Comet (e.g. Jetty Continuations) is, that it allows to reduce the polling frequency. In other words: You can achieve the same thing without Comet, by using frequent polling from the client side. Which alternative to choose depends on the characteristics of your application - depending on that, each alternative can be more or less efficent than the other!
In your case, since you need notifications when a client goes down, it makes sense to use frequent polling. Comet (long polling) is not suited very well for this task: Because of its priciple, it can take a long time until a client sends a new request. And receiving a new request is the only way a server can know that a client is still alive (remember, that a web server - no matter if Comet or not - can never send a request to the client).
Your requirement states that alarms must not get lost, implies a more complicated solution than long polling or frequent polling.
Your client should send an acknowledgement message to the server, because your user could close the application just after the alarm message arrived, he/she can loss that alarm.
Also, your user should click an alarm message to acknowledge the server . You can put a time limit to acknowledge , if the client does not send an ack message , then you can assume that alarm has been lost..
Long polling with acknowledgment algortihm would be my choices to solve your problem..