I want to start new application on ASP.NET MVC4 using different different approach like domain driven development , design patterns , dependency injection , Entity Framework as ORM etc.
Need some advice on what should be the starting point of development? Should I start with first relationships of classes or start with traditional approach?
e.g there are three module.
User Management.
Logging.
Error Logging.
Should I first complete with user management like domain classes then its services and then its CRUD operations in actual web application? and after that ...will start with logging (same process as mention in user management). and then in error logging as well.
So What are best practices to start development using those kind of concept or tools?
ASP.NET MVC4 is just a presentation part of solution. With Domain-Driven approach you start with domain (usually separate library project) and then add presentation (web site, desktop application etc) and persistence (implementation of repository and uof interfaces declared in your domain).
So, you start with creating domain model (not whole, but part of that). Then in any order you create UI which uses you domain model, and implementation of repositories for persisting your domain model via Entity Framework. Well actually views should use ViewModels (otherwise your POCO domain objects will be polluted with Data Annotations attributes and other stuff). It's a controller part where you will use domain model. Also you will inject repository implementations to controllers via dependency injection.
I would start by looking at the business functionality requirements of the system and focus on the highest value requirements first. Implement those, filling out your business domain as you need to, based on delivering the requirements. If you follow a BDD style process, you can use unit tests to drive out the business functionality and your domain will evolve as the business requirements evolve. Each business requirement should have a UI and data access component to it so you can fill out the presentation layer and data access layer with Entity Framework as the domain evolves. Here's a couple of useful posts on BDD:
BDD By Example
Introducing BDD
Related
So we are focusing on developing a enterprise web application that utilized DDD patterns with CQRS+ES. We have a pretty good handle on that from the enterprise level. Now when we want to open up our backend services to native mobile devices using Xamarin and portable class libraries how does this come together? Do we change our domain projects in each of our bounded context to be a PCL project type? What do we do with the MVVM side of things for instance in Windows Store App, Windows Phone app? Since we are pulling from a Web API service do we pull in the PCL bounded context library or do we make a subset domain model and a separate PCL library for our native client MVVM patterns?
Right now we are leaning towards leaving the original DDD projects as class libraries and just creating a separate portable class library for our MVVM code. We will probably use file linking to link back into the domain projects to get the models so that we always have the latest set of POCO objects and any DTO objects we want to use on the client. Any one else have any thoughts or ideas on this? I really don't see a lot of discussions around this DDD+PCL combination.
I have done a lot of thinking about this and what i did to put Xamarin in my current architecture with DDD approach was:
Put your Domain Entities in a PCL project and use it to reference in all projects that you need, such as Xamarin.Forms, Xamarin.Android, Xamarin.iOS, ASP.NET, WCF, etc.
Your Domain Services can be in a normal class library that will be used for the Application layer. The application layer will be used by the Presentation projects such as ASP.NET MVC.
In the Distributed Services layer you're going to expose your services for Xamarin or other apps to communicate with your application. You can use ASP.NET Web Api or WCF with REST. This layer will also use the application layer respecting the DDD concepts.
The xamarin projects go in the presentation layer but do not use application layer. Here you will write your services for Xamarin to connect to your Distributed Services Layer through the internet. If you need offline sync you can also put that in here. Here you're going to reference your Domain Entities Project and have all your entities with their business rules.
This way you have your domain and business rules shared with all your solution and respecting DDD concepts and role separation.
having looked at Domain Driven Design and read about Anaemic Domain Models being an antipattern, thinking ok perhaps should put more behaviour into our domain entities. The Behaviour will need handling for flexibility using SOLID approach, hence the need for a DI framework and container to allow injecting some behaviours into the entities.
However there appears a mismatch in wiring up the Entities, as our Entities would coming from an ORM framework such as Entity Framework or NHibernate, and Behaviours coming from a Dependency Injection container.
I guess you need a way for the ORM to also have a DI Container plugged into it.
Just wondering how others have approached this when wanting to get more rich models but also use ORMs and DI containers.
1- It is not a good idea to use ORM entities as your domain entities. Because your domain entities constitute the core of your DDD application and should have the minimum dependencies. What if you decide to change your ORM in the future? ORM can be used in your Repositories but remember that you need to map the ORM entities to your domain entities before your repository returns them.
2- Your domain entities should have behaviors but they are limited to that entity only. Any behaviors that involve other services or dependencies should go to a domain service. So your domain entities wouldn't have dependency on other services. They usually don't even need abstraction, so they won't need to be resolved using an IoC container.
I came upon one potential answer after watching this excellent video by Jimmy Bogard on Crafting Wicked Domain Models.
So your domain model contains the behaviour and rich methods, but you inject into the method of the domain model specific behaviours which implement some interface and are bits of functionality that you can get out of a DI container.
So by altering what you inject into the model, we can alter its behaviour using DI whilst still having a rich domain model and retrieving it from the database via an ORM.
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What is your opinion on the following 'generic' code-first Onion-inspired ASP.NET MVC architecture:
The layers, explained:
Core - contain the Domain model. e.g. that's the business objects and their relationship. I am using Entity Framework to visually design the entities and the relations between them. It lets me generate a script for a database. I am getting automatically-generated POCO-like models, which I can freely refer to in the next layer (Persistence), since they are simple (i.e. they are not database-specific).
Persistence - Repository interface and implementations. Basically CRUD operations on the Domain model.
BusinessServices - A business layer around the repository. All the business logic should be here (e.g. GetLargestTeam(), etc). Uses CRUD operations to compose return objects or get/filter/store data. Should contain all business rules and validations.
Web (or any other UI) - In this particular case it's an MVC application, but the idea behind this project is to provide UI, driven by what the Business services offer. The UI project consumes the Business layer and has no direct access to the Repository. The MVC project has its own View models, which are specific to each View situation. I am not trying to force-feed it Domain Models.
So the references go like this:
UI -> Business Services -> Repository -> Core objects
What I like about it:
I can design my objects, rather than code them manually. I am getting
code-generated Model objects.
UI is driven/enforced by the Business
layer. Different UI applications can be coded against the same
Business model.
Mixed feelings about:
Fine, we have a pluggable repository implementation, but how often do you really have different implementations of the same persistence interface?
Same goes for the UI - we have the technical ability to implement different UI apps against the same business rules, but why would we do that, when we can simply render different views (mobile, desktop, etc)?
I am not sure if the UI should only communicate with the Business Layer via View models, or should I use Domain Models to transfer data, as I do now. For display, I am using view models, but for data transfer I am using Domain models. Wrong?
What I don't like:
The Core project is now referenced in every other project - because I want/have to access the Domain models. In classic Onion architecture, the core is referenced only by the next layer.
The DbContext is implemented in the .Core project, because it is being generated by the Entity Framework, in the same place where the .edmx is. I actually want to use the .EDMX for the visual model design, but I feel like the DbContext belongs to the Persistence layer, somewhere within the database-specific repository implementation.
As a final question - what is a good architecture which is not over-engineered (such as a full-blown Onion, where we have injections, service locators, etc) but at the same time provides some reasonable flexibility, in places where you would realistically need it?
Thanks
Wow, there’s a lot to say here! ;-)
First of all, let’s talk about the overall architecture.
What I can see here is that it’s not really an Onion architecture. You forgot the outermost layer, the “Dependency Resolution” layer. In an Onion architecture, it’s up to this layer to wires up Core interfaces to Infrastructure implementations (where your Persistence project should reside).
Here’s a brief description of what you should find in an Onion application. What goes in the Core layer is everything unique to the business: Domain model, business workflows... This layer defines all technical implementation needs as interfaces (i.e.: repositories’ interfaces, logging interfaces, session’s interfaces …). The Core layer cannot reference any external libraries and has no technology specific code. The second layer is the Infrastructure layer. This layer provides implementations for non-business Core interfaces. This is where you call your DB, your web services … You can reference any external libraries you need to provide implementations, deploy as many nugget packages as you want :-). The third layer is your UI, well you know what to put in there ;-) And the latest layer, it’s the Dependency Resolution I talked about above.
Direction of dependency between layers is toward the center.
Here’s how it could looks like:
The question now is: how to fit what you’ve already coded in an Onion architecture.
Core: contain the Domain model
Yes, this is the right place!
Persistence - Repository interface and implementations
Well, you’ll need to separate interfaces with implementations. Interfaces need to be moved into Core and implementations need to be moved into Infrastructure folder (you can call this project Persistence).
BusinessServices - A business layer around the repository. All the
business logic should be here
This needs to be moved in Core, but you shouldn’t use repositories implementations here, just manipulate interfaces!
Web (or any other UI) - In this particular case it's an MVC
application
cool :-)
You will need to add a “Bootstrapper“ project, just have a look here to see how to proceed.
About your mixed feelings:
I won’t discuss about the need of having repositories or not, you’ll find plenty of answers on stackoverflow.
In my ViewModel project I have a folder called “Builder”. It’s up to my Builders to discuss with my Business services interfaces in order to get data. The builder will receive lists of Core.Domain objects and will map them into the right ViewModel.
About what you don’t like:
In classic Onion architecture, the core is referenced only by the next
layer.
False ! :-) Every layer needs the Core to have access to all the interfaces defined in there.
The DbContext is implemented in the .Core project, because it is being
generated by the Entity Framework, in the same place where the .edmx
is
Once again, it’s not a problem as soon as it’s really easy to edit the T4 template associated with your EDMX. You just need to change the path of the generated files and you can have the EDMX in the Infrastructure layer and the POCO’s in your Core.Domain project.
Hope this helps!
I inject my services into my controllers. The services return DTO's which reside in Core.
The model you have looks good, I don't use the repository pattern but many people do. I is difficult to work with EF in this type of architecture which is why I chose to use Nhibernate.
A possible answer to your final question.
CORE
DOMAIN
DI
INFRASTRUCTURE
PRESENTATION
SERVICES
In my opinion:
"In classic Onion architecture, the core is referenced only by the next layer."
That is not true, Core should be reference by any layer... remember that Direction of dependency between layers is toward the center (Core).
"the layers above can use any layer beneath them" By Jeffrey Palermo http://jeffreypalermo.com/blog/the-onion-architecture-part-3/
About your EF, it is in the wrong place.... it should be in the Infrastructure layer not in the Core layer. And use POCO Generator to create the entities (POCO classes) in Core/Model. Or use a Auto-mapper so you can map Core Model (Business objects) to Entity Model (EF Entities)
What you've done looks pretty good and is basically one of two standard architectures that I see a lot.
Mixed feelings about:
Fine, we have a pluggable repository implementation, but how often do you really have different implementations of the same persistence interface?
Pluggable is often touted as being good design but I've never once seen a team swap out a major implementation of something for something else. They just modify the existing thing. IMHO "pluggability" is only useful for being able to mock components for automated unit testing.
I am not sure if the UI should only communicate with the Business Layer via View models, or should I use Domain Models to transfer data, as I do now. For display, I am using view models, but for data transfer I am using Domain models. Wrong?
I reckon view models are a UI (MVC Web) concern, if you added a different type of UI for example it might not require view models or might need something different. So I think the Business layer should return domain entities and allow them to be mapped to view models in the UI layer.
What I don't like:
The Core project is now referenced in every other project - because I want/have to access the Domain models. In classic Onion architecture, the core is referenced only by the next layer.
As others have said this is quite normal. Usually everything ends up having a dependency on the Domain.
The DbContext is implemented in the .Core project, because it is being generated by the Entity Framework, in the same place where the .edmx is. I actually want to use the .EDMX for the visual model design, but I feel like the DbContext belongs to the Persistence layer, somewhere within the database-specific repository implementation.
I think this is a consequence of Entity Framework. If you used it in "Code First" mode you actually can - and usually do - have the context and repository in the Persistance layer with the Domain (represented as POCO classes) in what you've called Core.
As a final question - what is a good architecture which is not over-engineered (such as a full-blown Onion, where we have injections, service locators, etc) but at the same time provides some reasonable flexibility, in places where you would realistically need it?
As I touched on above I wouldn't worry about the need to swap things out except to allow for automated unit tests. Unless there is a specific requirement you know about that will make this very likely.
Good luck!
just starting with DDD. I understand that all the domain entities and their logic should be kept in Domain layer along with repository interfaces. In my application I store some data in the database that is used to construct parts of the user interface (presentation layer) at run time. Where should I keep the poco classes and repository interfaces for such types, in Application layer or Domain layer. I can not make out because these objects will not have any domain related business logic but they need to be hydrated from the database and I am using EF so for data access I will need entities and repositories so to me obvious choice is to keep them with all other entities and repository interfaces in domain layer but that breaks DDD rules
I think you've answered your own question:
In my application I store some data in the database that is used to
construct parts of the user interface (presentation layer) at run
time.
Access to data that is used to serve the UI should be encapsulated in the presentation layer. This is different from the application layer in that a DDD application layer implements use cases by orchestrating repositories and delegating to appropriate entities, domain services - it forms an API around your domain layer. Different presentation implementations can use the same application service.
However, different presentation layer implementations may require different data. Therefore, place presentation data access directly in the presentation layer. This can be implemented with EF which is not exclusive for DDD scenarios.
A good way to think of it is this - if you had to replace EF with stored procedures for performance reasons, you should not have to modify your domain code. So anything that blocks that needs to be hidden behind an interface and made replaceable.
Repositories CAN be a part of domain logic. However what should not be is the mechanism for persistence. This can easily be encapsulated into a DAL service or other object, which of course is programmed to an IDALService interface. So when you need to switch persistance (for example, moving from EF to a NoSQL solution) you simply write an alternative version that implements the IDALService interface, and you're good to go. The repositories can still do the logic within them, but are now using a new way to store them (this is an Inversion of Control idea).
As for the POCO objects, in DDD the real question is what do they represent? Are they entities, that need to be persisted? Are they value objects? Don't let the technology (EF) determine what the structure of your object model is, instead provide means to translate to an application scope.
In the Application layer. Keep the domain intact and isolated.
about a year ago I set set up a solution consisting of an ASP.Net MVC 3 (now) presentation layer, application layer, domain layer and infrastructure layer (crosscutting stuff and data). I decided to keep the domain model in a separate project from the domain logic and use a relaxed approach to the presentation layer by passing the domain entities instead of DTO's since we really only have 1 front end right now.
We are going to be servicing a distributed layer soon, in addition to our main website and I will use DTO's there, but I am considering using DTO's in the main website also. I am also wondering if I should bother to break out the framework code in the domain layer (IRepository, IUnitOfWork, Entity/Value object supertypes etc). Well here, let me list out the questions I need feedback on:
1) I was pretty diligent about not having an anemic domain model and also watched out for behavior that was specific to the presentation concerns. Most of the business calculations that are needed are on the domain entities, is it ok for the presentation layer to call this behavior directly or should it instead call an application service that then calls the domain entities? This would suggest to me that there is no reason to have the presentation layer know about the domain entities and instead could use DTO's. Alternatively, I could have the DTO's expose these behaviors, but then I feel like I am robbing the domain entities. So I guess that is 3 options (Rich domain objects called directly, service layer or dto with behavior) which is best?
2) Right now I have a domain project, which has domain services, specifications and logic and is orchestrated by the application layer and separate project for the domain model (used by presentation layer and application layer). I also have framework interfaces for generic repository and unit of work pattern here. Should I break the framework stuff out into a separate project and combine the rest into one project?
3) I want to reorganize my domain layer into aggregates, right now all of the domain model is organized by modules, basically all the types for each module are in one namespace. Would it be better to organize the entities, value objects, services and other stuff by the aggregates?
4) Should I use the Separated Interface pattern for infrastructure services that are basically .net framework helper library types? For example configuration objects or validation runners? What is the benefit there in doing so?
5) Lastly, not many examples I have seen have used interfaces for domain entities. Almost every object I have I prefer to pass around interfaces for dependency reasons and it makes testing much easier. Is it valid to use interfaces instead of concretes? I should mention that we use EF 4.3.1 (soon to upgrade to latest version) and I seem to remember that EF had a problem with using interfaces or something. Should I be exposing interfaces instead of the domain entities?
Thank you very much in advance.
Project Structure:
Presentation.Web
| |
| Application
| | |
Domain.Model - Domain
(Infrastructure.Data, Infrastructure.Core, Infrastructure.Security)
Explanation:
Presentation.Web (MVC3 Web Project)
Application
-- Service Layer that orchestrates the domain layer and responds to requests from the presentation layer (get this update that). This is organized by module, for example if I had a customer module I would have Application.Customer and in that would be all of the application services
Domain
-- Contains domain services, specifications, calculations and other domain logic that is not exposed as behavior on domain entities. For example a calculation that involves several domain entities exposed as a domain service for the application layer to call.
-- Also contains framework code for a specification framework and the main interfaces for a generic repository and unit of work pattern.
Domain.Model
-- Contains the domain entities and enumerations. Organized by module. For example, if I might have a customer module which has a customer entity, customerorder entity etc. This is broken out away from the domain project so that the objects can be used by the application and presenation layer.
Infrastructure.Security
-- Security infrastructure for authentication and authorization
Infrastructure.Core
-- Cross-cutting stuff used by multiple layers (validators, logging, configuration, extensions, IoC, email etc..). Most of the projects depend on interfaces in this project (except domain.model) for infrastructure services.
Infrastructure.Data
-- Repository Implementations via LINQ and EF 4.3.1, mapping layer, Unit of Work implementation. Interfaces are in Domain project (separated interfaces pattern)
1) First, determine whether your main website really needs to use the application layer. IMHO, if your application services and your main website are on the same web server, then you should evaluate whether the potential performance loss is worth having your main website call app server methods when it could call the domain objects directly. However, if your application server is definitely on another server, then yes, you should have the application server call your domain objects and pass only DTOs back and forth between it and any presentation layers you may have, including your main website.
2) This is really a question on preference of organization. Both are valid. You choose.
3) Anoter question on preference of organization. I, personally, organize my code by bounded context first. Then, I have entities and aggregate roots directly under them. Then, I have folders for Enumerations, Repositories (interfaces), Services (interfaces), Specifications, and Values. The namespaces do not reflect this organizational structure past the last bounded context folder. But, again, you should do this in the way that best suits the way you look at the code.
4) This is an implementation concern. I, personally, only break out implementation concerns into interfaces if I think there is a good possibility that I will need to swap out the implementations in the future. That being said, I usually organize my helper libraries into specific infrastructure contexts (eg. MainContext.Web.MVC.Helpers or MainContext.Web.WebForms.Helpers.) These rarely change and I have yet to come across an instance where I needed to swap out implementations entirely.
5) From my understanding, it is perfectly valid to use interfaces instead of concretes for your domain entities. That being said, I have yet to run into a case where I needed different implementations for my domain entities. The only reason I can even think of would be if you needed to change your business logic for one application, but leave an older application using the original business logic. If your business objects are good models for the domain, I can't fathom you actually running into this problem, but I have seen examples where people do this just for the sake of the abstraction. IMHO, that is not worth the extra coding effort, but if it makes you feel good inside or you get some actual benefit (eg. making testing easier), there isn't any reason why you can't abstract out your domain entities. That being said, domain services and repositories should definitely have contracts that allows you to swap out their implementations.
Answer 5 is derived from the idea that the application is the one who chooses the implementations. If you are trying to achieve onion architecture, then your application is going to be choosing the concrete implementations for everything (repositories, domain services, and other abstracted implementation concerns). I see no reason why it can't just use domain aggregates directly since they are the concrete representation of your domain model. (Note: All entities should be encapsulated into aggregates. The application should never be able to hold a reference to an entity that is not an aggregate under the context)