I am developing iPhone app for a web application currently running online. Current web application is big and complex and uses SQL to store vital information like member details, login credentials etx. Other stuffs like info about several sections, groups, sub groups and other information related to each are saved in txt. Current system uses its own standard to keep data in files and also made custom algorithm to read and write data in it. Each txt file is below 1 mb size. There are lot of data manipulations going on.
Custom algorithm created just read those files and put all data in cache as records (same as in core data managedobjectcontext) and whenever there is a change in data the whole file is overwritten.
So while implementing the same what I want to choose for iPhone app? In apple website they said that 'SQLite is perfect for low-level relational database work' https://developer.apple.com/technologies/ios/data-management.html But in my case it is high level.
So please help me to make a decision. Do I want to manage data in files or sqlite database using core data?
I would also like to know whether it is possible to import those classes and algorithms currently in webserver to iOS, so I don't want to rewrite the same algorithm for iOS? Current server codes are in C#
In the rare case that you need to do low-level relational database work use SQLite. In the 99% other cases use Core Data. Don't ever store relational stuff into txt files. It'll just be a pain.
Your use case sounds like a good match for Core Data.
Often misunderstood, Core Data is an object store that happens to use sqlite for persistence. You don't manipulate the sqlite underneath it, Core Data manage the sqlite for you. You do not write SQL. The closest match to it in .NET is EDM and the Entity Framework in ADO.NET.
Assuming the classes and algorithm you want to import in the webserver is in C#, sadly those needed to be ported to Obj-C.
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There are several apps that I use on my Mac that store their data in core data. I can see the data I want in CoreDataPro. I want that data - specifically I want to send changes in that to some remote end points (such as Zapier, or some other REST service).
I was thinking of piggybacking something like RestKit - such that I provide a configuration file saying where the app is and what end points the data needs sending to. I need only to scrape the data and send to REST, not a two-way sync.
I'd prefer a utility that I could configure rather than having to code a Mac application.
I noted http://nshipster.com/core-data-libraries-and-utilities/ - RestKit still seemed the most capable, but in https://github.com/RestKit/RestKit/issues/1748 I was advised that coredata projects should only be opened by a single application at a time, and really RestKit is designed for baking into the source app (rather than for database scraping and sending).
What approach would you take?
I also noted:
http://www.raywenderlich.com/15916/how-to-synchronize-core-data-with-a-web-service-part-1
Thanks, Martin.
First, Core Data is an object store in memory. What is written to disk from Core Data can be in one of several formats. One of those formats happens to be SQLite. If the application is writing to SQLite then it is possible to sample that same file and push it somewhere else.
However, each application will have its own data structure so you would need to be flexible in the structure you are handling.
RestKit has no value in this situation as you are just translating objects into JSON and pushing them to a server. The built in frameworks do that just fine.
There is no utility to do this at this time. You would need to write it yourself or hire someone to write it.
If I were going to do something like this, I would write it using Core Data itself interrogate the model from the application that wrote the data in the first place and then translate the database into JSON and push it. You won't be able to tell what is new vs. old so the server will need to sort that out.
Another option, since you can't diff anyway, is to just push the sqlite file to the server and let the server parse through it.
Other answers might include:
use a middleware platform e.g. using rssbus.com (only) sqlite connections are free to send the events
as my target system (http://easy-insight.com) actually has a transmitter that sends new records it sees from MySQL abd PostgreSQL, I could https://dba.stackexchange.com/questions/2510/tools-to-migrate-from-sqlite-to-postgresql or use an ETL such as http://www.easyfrom.net (I did ask the vendor for SQLite support a long time ago, but SQLite is just not a priority for them).
I'm wondering whether a good answer (where good excludes Objective-C and includes languages that I do know, such as - to a limited extent - Ruby) is to use MacRuby and its Core Data libraries.
Core Data seemingly can be exposed as an Active Record. https://www.google.com/search?q=macruby+coredata , notably http://www.spacevatican.org/2012/1/26/seeding-coredata-databases-with-ruby/
However, MacRuby seems to have faded - https://github.com/MacRuby/MacRuby/issues/231 - it won't even compile on Mavericks.
I am really confused on what the Core Data actually is. Or I guess my question is, when dealing with a database, would you use Core Data? Like if I wanted access values from a database would I be using Core Data to access those values? How would I approach this problem?
Thank you so much for the help.
Core Data is an framework that does the work of "object persistence". In other words, it's code you can use that takes care of saving a collection of objects to disk and loading them again later. It does a lot of work to allow you to store lots of data and load only the objects you need at a time, and unload ones when memory is tight.
Core Data can use a database to accomplish this, but that's it's business, not yours. When you use Core Data, it is a black box. You tell it to save the data and then step out of the way.
If you want to interact with an existing database, such as a MySQL database on a web server, that's a completely different matter. You might use Core Data to store local copies of objects on your device, but in that case Core Data won't care that the objects are copies from some other database. It doesn't care.
It is a convenient, native means of storing data in your iOS applications. Don't think of it as sqlite although you can view the files it creates with various sqlite tools. Instead think of it as a tool for manipulating an object graph of information important to your app.
I've used it in two main ways. First to store a bunch of static data that is important to an app, in one case that was a large amount of location data for an indoor mapping application. What arrived as a massive CSV file of waypoints was converted to core data. Core Data was incredibly useful for this because it allowed preparing a sqlite file which was shipped with the application containing all the infomation. Updates from a web service arrive as more CSV that is added to the Core Data to keep information current. At runtime the location information object (the waypoint a user is at) is retrieved with a predicate (i.e. the point they tapped on) and that object, through its Core Data relationships, indicates where it is possible to go from that point. Core Data provided the information necessary to perform A* routing through the indoor map.
Second it is great when you have a bunch of objects arriving as JSON and you want to be able to store and access those objects later. Let's say you have a typical app where you have a User and some information about the User, let's call it Thing. Users have Things. When you want to know something about a User you retrieve the Core Data record using a predicate - typically "name" or similar - and you get all the information you stored about the User back. Again you can make use of relationships to explore the user's connections and make displaying information easy. Perhaps the User has many Things, then you can say "user.things" and you get a NSSet of NSManagedObjects representing those Things.
You use it like a database. Its utility is that it is easy to access from anywhere in your iOS code, it is easy to store and easy to retrieve information also. Faulting lets you retrieve one object and navigate to any object connected through relationships by following the relationships. Because you define the attributes and relationships yourself in the data model editor it is easily customized for what you need to store. To me it is one of the most used and most useful parts of iOS.
When you want to automate display of information from Core Data you can use a NSFetchedResultsController to initiate a fetch and to respond through delegate methods to changes to the underlying data. If you set up a UITableView to use a NSFetchedResultsController as data source, you can have the table automatically update whenever the objects displayed in the cells changed. Very useful for apps where you periodically update information and want what is displayed to be kept current.
When your object model changes it is possible to maintain all of your existing information and migrate it to the new model. Core Data manages automatic (lightweight migration) when it can, or if you have made more radical changes you can supply rules to handle the migration.
The limitation of Core Data is that it is not great for storing binaries. If you have images that you need to store, far better to store a path to the location of the image than trying to store the actual data.
Yes, if you want a local database on your device, Core Data is the appropriate technology. It probably makes sense to start your research with the Core Data Programming Guide.
You can alternatively use SQLite (which Core Data uses in the backend), but Core Data offers some material advantages and is the preferred database interface for iOS. If you decide to pursue SQLite for any reason, though, I'd suggest you contemplate using the FMDB Objective-C SQLite wrapper.
But Core Data is generally the way to go.
I am creating a Questions and answers app for iphone which allows user to answer the questions displayed.
Currently I am invoking a web service to store the users answers. But I am slightly worried what if the web service goes down. I need to store the users answers locally and then invoke the web service when it is up and running.
How can I store the users answers when the web service is down. Is Sqllite a good option for this?
Please suggest.
Thanks,
Is Sqllite a good option for this?
Yes, SQLite is decidedly a good option. The other choice would be Core Data.
Use CoreData or SQLite on iPhone?
It depends on the complexity of your data model. I've looked into something like this recently and here is what I learnt. The most popular data storage methods in the iPhone are:
plist
Good for small quantities (hundreds of Ks) of hierarchical data.
Bad if relationships or queries are complex (since you have to write the code).
Very easy to learn.
Supports array, dict, string, data, date, integer, real, boolean elements.
You can store it as XML, which is editable and portable, or as binary files, which is faster.
Core Data
It's a object graph manager with searching and persistent functionality.
You need a good few hours of learning.
Easy to use once you set it up.
Better than a plist because it lets you manage object graphs, grow your object model, write queries, undo/redo, migrations to modified data models, memory management, and handle concurrent access.
Better than SQLite because:
The performance is similar and the speed of development is faster.
Creating objects is faster.
When the objects are in memory, executing queries doesn't require a search in the backend (which usually is either memory or SQLite).
SQLite
A database.
Better than Core Data when the operation doesn't require you to bring objects to memory. Example: update, delete, and select 1 (see if something exists).
It has full text search if you compile the extension.
Hardest to learn. Easier if you use a wrapper: FMDB, egodatabase.
If you can get away with a plist do that. If you see the amount of code you will have to write is too much work, then switch to Core Data. Only if you are an expert and absolutely need the performance use SQLite (unless, of course, you already know SQLite and not Core Data).
It should be, yes. I'd set up a Core Data based app with entities for Questions and Answers and set up relationships between them. Then just use NSFetchedResultsController or whatever you would like to gather and display the data
You have several options:
Sqlite
Core Data
Client-Side storage
If you wish to go the web based route, I'd take a quick look at Safari Client-Side Storage and Offline Applications Programming Guide.
Basically, you store a local copy of the database in memory so incase the web service is down, users can still use the app.
I would like to begin work on an iPhone app that does little more than display a books content for reading. The book content is available online, and is fully open source, but I would like to make the content available locally. With apps that I have worked on previously, namely with iPhone OS 2.X, creating (or finding) an .sql database and then just making queries for data from within the app worked really well. With the advent of Core Data (which I am not that familiar with) the older sql method may not be ideal. So my question is: What is the best way for me to go from online web content to locally stored iPhone readable content? Regardless of which approach I take, I am going to need a db (right?), so should I get the brunt of it out of the way and start with importing the web content into a db with all of the correct tables and columns? I guess with this question, I am just looking for a point in the right direction. If there were any suggestions about the best method for me to get rolling on this, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Core Data is good if you have "objects" that you want to make persistent. In the case of having just a lot of data to read/write, plain old SQLite may be simpler.
Sorry that I can't give any more specific advice, but it comes down to how complicated your app's data model and object models are. I'd recommend looking at Core Data, but don't use it just because everybody tells you how cool it is.
If you go with Core Data, you won't define your own SQL database schema, so don't start down that path until you've made the decision.
I actually would go with the Core Data route. Core Data is just an API provided by Apple to manage persistent data no matter the data backend (wether it is a flat plist file, an XML file, or a full sqlite database file).
In the case of a book, you can break down the entities as follows.
Book Entity
Title which is a String Attribute
Author which is a String Attribute
chapters which is a has many relationship of Chapter Entities
Chapter Entity
Title which is a String Attribute
pages which is a has many relationship of Page Entities
Page Entity
PageText which is a String Attribute
Then you can access all the values as if they are objects using Core Data without having to worry about the SQL backend code, and writing all the code to translate the SQLite datatypes to Cocoa objects that your view controllers can display.
We're beginning development of an in-house app in the iPhone Enterprise developer program. Since it's close to OS 3.0, we're reconsidering our original design of using SQLite and using Core Data instead. Here's some more info:
There is a legacy desktop application that this is replacing. We will reuse the existing back end.
We currently have a SQLite database generated as a proof of concept. This is basically a cut down version of the existing back end database.
We will be loading data from a remote site and storing it locally, where it will persist and need to be . We only update it if it has changed, which will be every month or two. We will most likely use XML or JSON to transfer the data.
There are two developers on this project and we both have strong SQL skills but neither one has used Core Data.
My questions are: what is the benefit of Core Data over SQLite, what would the benefit be in this specific instance and do the benefits justify learning a new framework instead of using existing strong SQL skills?
EDIT:
I just noticed this question: Core Data vs SQLite 3. I guess my questions therefore are:
If I have to check if a specific item either exists or has an update, which is easy using SQL, does Core Data still make sense? Can I load the first object in a graph and check the version number without loading the whole graph?
If we already know SQL, does the advantages of Core Data for this one project justify us learning it?
As you've read Core Data vs SQLite 3, you know that Core Data and the persistence mechanism (SQLite in this case) are largely orthogonal. Core Data is really about managing an object graph and it's main use case is for the model component of an MVC architecture. If your application fits nicely into this architecture, it's probably worth using Core Data as it will save you a lot of code in the model component. If you already have a working model component (e.g. from the existing desktop app), then Core Data won't buy you much. A hybrid approach is possible-- you can do your own persistence/querying and build a Core Data in memory store which you populate with the result of a query and use this in-memory store via Core Data as the model component for your app. This isn't common, but I've done it and there are no major roadblocks.
To answer your specific questions:
You can assign a version number to the entire persistent store and retrieve that information via +[NSPersistentStore metadataForPersistentStoreWithURL:error:], without even opening the store. An equivalent +setMetadata:forPersistentStoreWithURL:error also exists, of course. If you want to store the version info in an entity instance instead of in the persistent store metadata, you can load only a single object. With an SQLite persistent store, Core Data does a very good job of fetching only what you need.
The NSPredicate API, is very easy to learn and it seems to do a decent job of compilation to SQL. At least for databases of the size you could fit on an iPhone it's certainly been adequate (performance wise) in my experience. I think the SQL vs. Core Data question is slightly misguided, however. Once you get the result of a query what are you going to do with it? If you roll your own, you'll have to instantiate objects, handle faulting/uniqueing (if you don't want to load the entire result of a query into memory immediately) and all of the other object graph management facilities already provided by Core Data.
It sounds like you already have the project designed using SQLite, and you have experience in that area.
So the bottom line is, does it make sense to port this project, will Core Data give me anything that I didn't already have in my original design?
Assuming that the original design was done properly, based on the requirements ON THIS PROJECT, it's probably not worth it.
But that's not the end of the discussion. There are other things to think about: Will my next project have such light database requirements? Do I need to ship soon, due to timeline or budget constraints? Assuming I'm going to have to learn Core Data sooner or later, doesn't it make sense to do it now? Am I possibly interested in porting my code over to the Mac?
The answers to these questions may lead you to the decision that yes, it is indeed worth it to go back to the drawing board so to speak, and learn what Core Data is all about.
To get to your final question: What are the advantages? Well, Core Data is a higher level abstraction of your database, it is also data store agnostic (so if a future version of the iPhone were to ditch SQLite for an embedded version of MySQL... unlikely, but it's an example) then Core Data would require VERY few changes to the code to make it work with the new data store. Core Data will provide a great deal of quick portability to the Mac platform. Core Data will handle versioning of your data model, whereas unless you have a framework or a workflow to manage it, direct access to SQLite won't.
I'm sure other answerers can come up with other advantages, and maybe some good reasons why NOT to mess with Core Data. Incidentally, in a similar situation, my decision was to port to the higher level, newer framework. But in my case, it was for a side project, and ship date and budget were non-factors.
Not to detract from this forum, but you might find more respondents with contextually relevant experience at the Apple iPhone DevForum.
Speaking from a purely project management perspective, it sounds like you know how to build what you want to build using SQLite, and so it would make more sense to me for you to start along that route.
That being said, CoreData builds on top of SQLite and if you are trying to leverage other parts of the system in conjunction with your data, e.g. using KVC/KVO or bindings, then you may quickly find that this functionality is worth the learning curve.
= Mike