I am building a site with users who have discussions and write blogs and plan to use MongoDB as the database for the site. Which architecture option would be more efficient and allow for easier data flow between them:
One Database with a Blogs Collection, a Discussions Collection, and a User Activity Collection? Each collection would be sharded as appropriate.
A Blogs Database, a Discussions Database, and a User Activity Database? Each database would be broken into collections and sha rded as appropriate.
It won't make a big difference whether you put everything into a single database or into multiple databases until you find you need to do something that's handled on the database level, for example access control, or placing database files on separate physical devices (to reduce I/O contention).
In addition, currently locking granularity is on the database level so if you happen to have a very large number of small writes having them go to different databases will mean that they will not be contending for the same lock. Since you anticipate sharding you can also place each database on a different shard which may allow you to defer actually needing to shard any particular collection as each shard would only be handling the traffic for that database's collection(s).
I would say if you are in doubt go ahead and put them in separate databases, it's unlikely to hurt and it may help.
Mongo will work, but getting familiar with it may take time depending on your experience.
If you use MySQL (or another SQL db) you may have an easier time. You should probably just create separate tables for your blogs, discussions, and activity, rather than multiple databases.
Another factor to consider is the size of your databases. An SQL database is fine for most applications, even fairly large ones. MongoDB (and other NoSQL db's) are great for scaling big data.
Hope this helps!
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We are currently working on an application using Mongo and we try to evaluate benefits and constraints on each differents architecture choices related to spreading data on multiple databases/collections or using a single shared one.
Is there any performance penalties between one single database with a lot of collections or many databases with less collections per database ?
From what I understand it does not seem to have any impact because sharding is done per collection basis but I would like some confirmations.
Regards
By performance, I guess you mean read/write speed. Using multiple databases with fewer collections would definitely increase your read/write speed since each database can handle more read/write operations on the collections associated with them.
However, spreading data across databases this way I believe can bring about extra complexity to your project, depending on how your codebase is structured, it might introduce complexity to your application logic, things like backup and other admin database operations won't be straight forward, cross collection ad-hoc queries for collection that lives in different databases would be next to impossible.
If the goal of the architecture design is to ensure high read/write speed, you can still go with using a single DB that can be auto-scaled at the deployment level. I don't know much about it but I think Replication is a MongoDB feature that can help you achieve such auto-scaling and if you are in for database-as-a-service, you should check out MongoDB Atlas, auto-scaling is out of the box.
I am pretty new to MongoDB. I am creating an application where I will have users and a lot of other data.I have already created a database where I am storing user information using MongoDB. Now I have to create a new database or collection to store rest of the data. What are the pros and cons of creating different or different collection ?
I use MongoDB in a very similar way and have already thought a lot about dividing my database. Here are some of the things we considered:
Using 2 databases is harder to maintain, your application will have to know which database to update, also it can increase the costs (even more if you intend to monitor the databases and host on different infrastructure).
Mongo 2 used to lock the entire database when updating, so I think it would be better to separate then, but Mongo 3 with WiredTiger locks only the document, so you won't have the problems we used to have in the past.
One good thing about splitting the database in two is that even if your data explodes one database, the other will still work
IMHO, if you use a decent machine to store your databases and monitor it the right way, you won't have any troubles keeping just one until your system is giant with millions of active users. You can also use Replica Sets and Sharding to increase efficiency.
My team will deploy a new version of our app (Capture social media posts, hashtags etc.) they create a different DB for each user and we may have thousands of collections on each DB. I read all mongoDB shard documentation and I saw that I can only shard an collection or one DB at time, I'm missing something ?
We will start this new version fresh, without any databases and we will grow from 0 again (For now, we have 23k users) but we will escalate this number really quickly (100.000+ at the end of the year)
My question is: I really need a Shard cluster ? (My test setup have 3 shards with 3 microshards, 3 config servers and 2 mongos) for now, in production, i have a large server doing all the hard work but i dont want to scale to top, the horizontal scale is the best choice, i think.
Can I shard all my databases automatically or I really need to do that one by one doing the shard key procedure and so. ?
Thanks in advance
You are reading correctly. What you intend to do is so far away from what any sensible person would do that MongoDB doesn't offer any tools to support this. If you really want to go with this WTF solution, your application will be responsible to set up sharding for each collection it creates. This forces you to give administration permission to the application (despite what any security guides recommend).
"Will you really need a sharded cluster" - that depends on how much data you will have and how often you query it with what kind of query. But it is unlikely to work anyway, because your sharded cluster will have to manage (100,000 databases* 1.000 collections) = a hundred million collections. MongoDB is not designed for scaling in that direction. The cluster will likely be so busy with bookkeeping that you won't really see any notable performance gain.
It is also questionable if clustering would even theoretically make sense. Clustering is usually only useful when you have very large collections. But in your scenario where your data is so heavily fragmented into a million collections, each individual collection is unlikely to be very large.
If you really want to go this route, it might in fact be a better solution to separate the databases physically by assigning each user to a database server.
Or you could just build a database architecture like a normal team would with one database for all users and one collection per type of document. You would then speed up lookups by creating a compound index on user and whatever criteria you used to tell which database a document belonged to. This index might also be a good shard key.
Is there any advantage to using multiple collections within a database, when multiple databases each with a single collection would accomplish the same thing? From what I can gather, using multiple databases reduces lock contention because locks are per-database, so I wonder why you'd ever want to put more than one collection in a single database.
The only downside I've found mentioned is that there's some overhead (~200MB) per database, and that with a large number of databases, OS file handles can become a limitation, but I imagine that if you have enough collections/databases for those to be issues, you've got too many databases. These overheads are bearable in my case; I'd like to know if there's something else I should know about.
EDIT: In my situation there are currently 30 collections spread across 8 databases. I'm asking this question because I think it may be better to make this 30 collections across 30 databases. There's no real reason for the current structure; it was set up by a team who don't know much about databases so picked arbitrarily. It's now used frequently enough for lock contention to be a factor (profiling shows some operations spending >1 second waiting for locks). We'll scale horizontally too, I just saw this as a potential low-hanging fruit since it just means using a different database name for some operations, instead of a different collection name.
Apologies if this has been asked before; the only similar questions I've found have been about whether to use e.g. "a collection per user" which isn't quite the same thing. In my case I have heterogeneous documents which I definitely do want stored in different collections, I'd just like to know whether to store those collections in the same database or not.
may be duplicate of this: creating a different database for each collection in MongoDB 2.2
in my solution I created own database for each large and highload collection, for rest collections I create another common database. Mongodb implements locks on a per-database basis for most read and write operations: http://docs.mongodb.org/manual/faq/concurrency/ But locks in mongoDb not so nasty as in SQL.
This solution increase productivity of mongodb for me.
I'm new to mongodb and I'm facing a dilemma regarding my DB Schema design:
Should I create one single collection or put my data into several collections (we could call these categories I suppose).
Now I know many such questions have been asked, but I believe my case is different for 2 reasons:
If I go for many collections, I'll have to create about 120 and that's it. This won't grow in the future.
I know I'll never need to query or insert into multiple collections. I will always have to query only one, since a document in collection X is not related to any document stored in the other collections. Documents may hold references to other parts of the DB though (like userId etc).
So my question is: could the 120 collections improve query performance? Is this a useful optimization in my case?
Or should I just go for single collection + sharding?
Each collection is expected hold millions of documents. If use only one, it will store billions of docs.
Thanks in advance!
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Thanks for the great answers.
In fact the 120 collections is only a self made limit, it's not really optimal:
The data in the collections is related to web publishers. There could be millions of these (any web site can join).
I guess the ideal situation would be if I could create a collection for each publisher (to hold their data only). But obviously, this is not possible due to mongo limitations.
So I came up with the idea of a fixed number of collections to at least distribute the data somehow. Like: collection "A_XX" would hold XX Platform related data for publishers whose names start with "A".. etc. We'll only support a few of these platforms, so 120 collections should be more than enough.
On another website someone suggested using many databases instead of many collections. But this means overhead and then I would have to use / manage many different connections.
What do you think about this? Is there a better solution?
Sorry for not being specific enough in my original question.
Thanks in advance
Single Sharded Collection
The edited version of the question makes the actual requirement clearer: you have a collection that can potentially grow very large and you want an approach to partition the data. The artificial collection limit is your own planned partitioning scheme.
In that case, I think you would be best off using a single collection and taking advantage of MongoDB's auto-sharding feature to distribute the data and workload to multiple servers as required. Multiple collections is still a valid approach, but unnecessarily complicates your application code & deployment versus leveraging core MongoDB features. Assuming you choose a good shard key, your data will be automatically balanced across your shards.
You can do not have to shard immediately; you can defer the decision until you see your workload actually requiring more write scale (but knowing the option is there when you need it). You have other options before deciding to shard as well, such as upgrading your servers (disks and memory in particular) to better support your workload. Conversely, you don't want to wait until your system is crushed by workload before sharding so you definitely need to monitor the growth. I would suggest using the free MongoDB Monitoring Service (MMS) provided by 10gen.
On another website someone suggested using many databases instead of many collections. But this means overhead and then I would have to use / manage many different connections.
Multiple databases will add significantly more administrative overhead, and would likely be overkill and possibly detrimental for your use case. Storage is allocated at the database level, so 120 databases would be consuming much more space than a single database with 120 collections.
Fixed number of collections (original answer)
If you can plan for a fixed number of collections (120 as per your original question description), I think it makes more sense to take this approach rather than using a monolithic collection.
NOTE: the design considerations below still apply, but since the question was updated to clarify that multiple collections are an attempted partitioning scheme, sharding a single collection would be a much more straightforward approach.
The motivations for using separate collections would be:
Your documents for a single large collection will likely have to include some indication of the collection subtype, which may need to be added to multiple indexes and could significantly increase index sizes. With separate collections the subtype is already implicit in the collection namespace.
Sharding is enabled at the collection level. A single large collection only gives you an "all or nothing" approach, whereas individual collections allow you to control which subset(s) of data need to be sharded and choose more appropriate shard keys.
You can use the compact to command to defragment individual collections. Note: compact is a blocking operation, so the normal recommendation for a HA production environment would be to deploy a replica set and use rolling maintenance (i.e. compact the secondaries first, then step down and compact the primary).
MongoDB 2.4 (and 2.2) currently have database-level write lock granularity. In practice this has not proven a problem for the vast majority of use cases, however multiple collections would allow you to more easily move high activity collections into separate databases if needed.
Further to the previous point .. if you have your data in separate collections, these will be able to take advantage of future improvements in collection-level locking (see SERVER-1240 in the MongoDB Jira issue tracker).
The main problem here is that you will gain very little performance in the current MongoDB versions if you separate out collections into the same database. To get any sort of extra performance over a single collection setup you would need to move the collections out into separate databases, then you will have operational overhead for judging what database you should query etc.
So yes, you could go for 120 collections easily however, you won't really gain anything currently due to: https://jira.mongodb.org/browse/SERVER-1240 not being implemented (anytime soon).
Housing billions of documents in a single collection isn't too bad. I presume that even if you was to house this in separate collections it probably would not be on a single server either, just like sharding a single collection, so any speed reduction due to multi server setup will also not matter in this case.
In my personal opinion, using a single collection is easier on everything.