Here is the reason for my peculiar question:
I am working on a mortgage application for a mortgage broker where each mortgage application is a record. Now this broker will take each of the applications he has received and enter this application (in an up line lender's system) and during the life of this mortgage application, he receives notification emails about updates from the up line lender.
It is required that in this application, all emails pertaining to a particular mortgage application are visible under that record.
My plan is to have all emails collect in a single inbox, and give that inbox an alias corresponding to the record id of the mortgage record. The alias remains active as long as the mortgage application is active and the broker cares for receiving these updates. Once the mortgage application record is dead, that alias is removed.
When displaying the particular mortgage record, I can query the mail server for the emails where the to address is the alias of that particular record.
My key requirements are:
The email server or email service should allow for about 400-500 aliases at a time.
Should have an API interface for creating and deleting an alias.
As far as the creating/deleting API is concerned, Google Apps (https://developers.google.com/admin-sdk/directory/v1/guides/manage-user-aliases) really fits the requirement, but has a 30 alias limit.
Does Microsoft Outlook online mail support this kind of API and ability to create mailbox alias?
If we went in the direction of having a Microsoft Exchange Server 2010/2013, would it allow programmatic access to create aliases? What would be the license cost?
Thanks in advance for looking this up.
With update from #mti2935, I am considering a catch-all solution rather then deal with creating aliases.
So, now I think all I need is to be able to process the emails. What's the best means of processing emails (in my case, I will simply have to look at the "to" field and put the emails in different buckets).
I have found a third party service that can help me parse emails. Definitely going to try that out and provide an update here.
Service: https://postmarkapp.com/inbound
Referenced by a post on: How to setup a mail server?
One option to consider is to setup a mail server using qmail, configured as a catch-all for your domain, such that all mail to *#yourdomain.tld forwards to a script which parses each incoming message, scrapes the to, from, subject, etc. logs the messages in your database, etc. It's easier than it sounds to setup. See How to setup a mail server?. This can be done fairly inexpensively on a Rackspace or AWS cloud server.
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I'm currently running a SAAS application and mails are being sent from our application using Mailjet.
Some of the larger customers have been asking to allow the emails to be sent from their domain (e.g. info#largehotel.com) instead of our system (notifications#saasapp.com).
Are there any initial pointers I will need to look at? I'm guessing they will need to add our SPF records to their SPF records too and that they will need add a DKIM key that we generate for them to add to their records too? Then do some validation on them on the DNS level and mark them as validated?
I have some understanding to have customers run their own domain against our SAAS domain but a bit lost on the sending from their email domain requirement.
First, for the record, my SaaS platform does this (vía option 2b). It’s an e-commerce marketplace and I need the receipts to be sent from the email address of the product seller, not from me (the marketplace)
You have two(ish) options
Send email through your client’s mail servers (instead of mailjet)
Verify the client’s domain on your Mailjet (or similar email) service
option 1
With option 1, you’ll need to ask your client’s IT team to setup a username and password for you to access their SMTP server. This is essentially just like them creating an email account for you to use. This may seem like the easiest path available for you, but there are potential pitfalls and disadvantages:
Doing this, you will lose the mail open/click/bounce tracking functionality you get with mailjet; because you’ll be using the company’s SMTP server instead.
If you’re sending out as a fairly common email address (eg info#your-client.com) the client may already have that account active on their mail servers. That would allow them to receive replies into the existing infrastructure but make them wary of the security issues with sharing a password to their mail server with you.
You might find that they don’t even have the ability to give you a username and password. Modern mail services don’t allow for SMTP access (which is what your web app will need); and security conscious companies require 2 factor authentication on mail accounts (which your web app can’t answer)
Option 2
For this, you will need to ask their IT team to configure some DNS records to prove to mailjet, and to the email recipient, that you’re allowed to send on behalf of your client.
You did this for your own domain when you first setup mailjet. See https://app.mailjet.com/support/how-to-add-a-sender-address,96.htm for what this involves, but it’s a case of asking the client to configure a DNS record.
That tells mailjet that you’re allowed to send on behalf of that domain; but you’ll also want the client to adjust their SPF and DKIM records so as the recipient of the emails knows to trust Mailjet’s servers with emails sent from your client’s domain name. Normally, recipients only trust email sent from your client’s mail server (which you have as option 1) and distrust email sent from SAAS providers.
You will (or should) have done this on mailjet for your own domain already as well. https://app.mailjet.com/docs/spf-dkim-guide
So for this, you’ll need your client to setup 3 DNS records.
If you go this way, you could setup a separate Mailjet account which they and you have access to. That way they ca see their dashboard directly and feel a sense of ownership and security around it. But you won’t be able to markup the price of it 😜
Conclusion
How important is the tracking? If you can’t lose that you need to go with option 2.
How technically savvy is the client? Are they going to be able to have those DNS records changed? Are they going to be (rightly) security conscious around giving you an account on their main mail sever.
Option 2 would be my preference. You might need to hold their hand through the DNS setup so get it configured on Mailjet (And ask about SPF in here to make sure you get it right) so you can provide them with clear instructions of the specific 3 DNS records to create/update.
Whatever approach you take make sure you’re talking to the right people at your clients side soon. Their marketing team may be keen to do this with you, but if their IT feels left out of the conversation they will be difficult to get on board when you need them to make the changes. Us IT folk can be grumpy and obstinate 😀
your web app
This is going to need some adjustment. You probably already store your Mailjet credentials in a file or environment variables; these might need to move these to a dB table so you can relate credentials with specific accounts. But we’d need more info on the web app to be able to speak more to that side of the challenge.
option 2b
just as a note instead of a real suggestion. Be aware that some email service provers allow the sending verification part to be done by sending an email to someone on that domain (eg admin#yourclient.com) and then allowing sending vía the API if the recipient clicks on the approve link on that email. But, even with that setup you still need the client to configure SPF and DKIM on their DNS, so the extra one record isn’t a big ask. AWS’s SES allows for this. This works for me; but I have different requirements around deliver ability, and a large number of non-tech users (as opposed to your one or two big clients)
you can ask your client to generate programmatic(app key/password) user for email need to use for example info#largehotel.com and some other info like (host:gmail, protocol: smtp,...) all basic info needed then in your saas retrieve all this info to create object with client info that you stored before to send email for the target (from developer prospective non network engineering )
The SPF is the most important think to do. In most cases you have to be very careful about the IP reputation, but since you are using Mailjet it's up to them to manage this part.
Be attentive to the overall quality of the email, text/image ratio... Also offers a text body version of the content and dont forget the unsubscribe link. Since you already send emails with your service, I guess it's points are already correct.
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In Cuba, web access is extremely censored, so I created a tool that allows more than 50,000 people to browse the Internet through email. Cubans send me an email with an URL in the subject line, and I email them back with the response. Read more at https://apretaste.com.
It was working like a charm, till the communist government of Cuba started blocking my emails. My solution was rotation.
I started with Amazon SES, and I was changing the domain each time it was blocked, but Amazon adds a header to all emails, and once they blocked the header no email from SES was able to reach Cuba any more. The same happened with Mailgun and others, they all add headers.
Currently I am creating Gmail accounts and sending via SMTP, but Google blocks me for no reason and only allows to send 100 emails a day per account. Also I can only create few emails using the same IP address/phone, so I was forced to use anonymous proxies and fake Chinese phones. Now I am fighting a war on two fronts.
An email can be blocked by three parameters: IP address, domain, and email address.
It will be terrific if I can set up my own Postfix server at a VPS that auto-rotates the IP address. Even better if I can simulate "gmail.com", to avoid purchasing a new domain every day.
All the intents to create what I call "the ultimate sender" just either reach the spam folder or add unwanted headers making it too easy to block. I feel exhausted. I hit a knowledge barrier here.
I know I am crossing to the dark side, but this is for a very good cause. Thousands count on this service as their only source of unbiased news, social network and to feel part of the 21st century.
Can you please help me implementing "the ultimate sender", or pointing to another solution that I may be missing?
I have a few suggestions for you.
The first one relies on The Onion Router also known as Tor.
Since you are crossing to the dark side, why not also take a look into the darknet?
Take a look at this list of Tor email providers. If you have your own email server that can be accessed through Tor, it becomes much harder for anybody to stop people from using this service. After all, Tor was developed to offer people uncensored access to the web.
You can read about Tor in detail here, it uses Onion Routing and this is how you would set up your server to use Tor.
Here is an example how you could use it:
The steps that involve the setup, receiving an URL request and sending back the reply are as follows:
Set up an email server.
Configure your email server to use Tor.
Publish the public service name. (e.g. "duskgytldkxiuqc6.onion")
Deploy a client that takes the service name and a URL, and let it send an email with a request to your server.
The client now waits for a reply.
You send a reply and the client receives it.
You can change your service name on a regular basis, but you need to make it accessible to those who will use this service.
Having an own email server means being able to control the email header.
Here is one example how you could make use of it:
Configure your email server so that it receives and recognizes
emails which contain the requested URLs.
Before you send a reply modify the email header so that it shows a random IP address and a random sender email address including a random domain name.
Send your reply.
Sending an email that way means that you cannot be replied back to. But since your reply already contains the requested information there is no need to.
I hope this helps.
Crowd source it.
Find a way that volunteers can send some emails for you. This is the only long term approach that I can think of. A simple web interface with mail to links would be be enough to get started although there are other potential problems with this approach too.
Because you are talking about low numbers of users, you could also use crowdsourcing to create the single email address per person approach. They can create an account on a specific set of email providers and give you the credentials. This would allow the single email per user approach or could be used to rotate through a large set of email accounts to send emails.
The simplest solution is perhaps to set up a local SMTP server on your own computer. You don't even need a server per se.
https://sourceforge.net/projects/winsmtpserver/
There are many other such applications. They are usually used to test SMTP functions during local development, but there is nothing against actually sending spam through them.
I know this would be quite a large task, but how about pairing the users with one or just a few emails so they always receive an email from that email.
I'd assume people wouldn't have more than 100 queries per day, if so they could start receiving them from a backup email
I'd imagine it would look less suspicious for them to appear to be in constant contact with one unique email rather than 50,000 being in contact with one
I know this would be a huge undertaking, but I feel like it solves your issue.
Since the users are willing to receive emails form you then your shouldn't be blocked.
When you mentioned you are getting block does it mean your mail is going in spam or is getting lost in between sending and receiving or it is getting bounced back??
My suggestion would be to setup your own mail server and follow as below:
-Get approx 25 or more ip to rotate. (IP is the most imp part which is tracked and is accountable for the reputation of your mail server)
Don't start sending emails in bulk from the word go it is better to gradullay increase the email volume so that mail server reputation nicely built
keep changing the format of the email often
encourage user to add yourself to there contact list
your best part is user are willing to receive emails from you and you would reply to revived email is the USP of yours but still i will recommend you to register for FBL so that you would know which user is reporting you as spam and you can remove him from your list and never send him email again.
using best practice to send emails like dkim, SPF, dmarc are also vital.
Hope my answer was of some help to you. If you need step by step guide to step up mail server let me know.
My friend, do you remember what made Hillary Clinton lose the last elections to Trump?
It was the "mail" affair. And what was it? People discovered she shared confidential information through a non-official, non-governmental email account (i.e., she used some Gmail, Yahoo or another of a kind). Until here, nothing new with direct relation to your matters. But there is an small particularity on this history, and this can put, maybe not a solution, but maybe a light on a new path you could follow: Clinton actually never sent those emails; the email account she used had the password shared and the communication between people (Clinton-someone) occurred only using the drafts of the account.
How? One side logs in and accesses the drafts folder. There he/she reads the last message and edits it, cutting and writing new data - then save the draft message. On the next turn, the other side of the communication line logs in and do the same. And so forth, so never really sending those messages, but instead just updating the drafts (this "Hillary" method does schooled people... Dilma Rousseff, impeached ex-president of Brazil, actually did this method down there in Brazil too).
So, maybe if you could establish a pact with your user that he/she doesn't delete the account's password, you could pass those information by this method - without "really" exchanging emails. Maybe a "parent" email account (some that could reset a lost password) could be useful too.
Alternative: aren't you able to contract a regular HTTP webserver? You could rely on FTP to publish data to your user, he/she asks for it and you publish a page with that content.
Salvi, have you tried something with Telnet? OK, we are talking here about a text-only environment, but if nothing more would rest in the future, this could be better than nothing. Maybe you could implement a podcast-like, or push-like service based on it. Look what people do with it with references to your walk on the dark side...
If in Windows, open your command prompt.
Type telnet and press Enter.
Type "o" without quotes and press Enter.
Type "towel.blinkenlights.nl" without the quotes and press Enter.
Currently in our application admin of a company invite multiple users to system. Our design is:
take admin chosen separated email addresses, check user if exist and member of current company do nothing. if exist but not member of current company do some setup and add to company and send welcome email. if not not exist set user account add to company and send invitation email. But there is a hard roadblock. Admins want to invite up to 5000 emails. Because of currently we invite in web application and send email one by one (we have to, because of uniqueness and activation code) admin can't invite more than 20-30 emails at same time, because of timeout.
I thought to take email to another table and do operation with timer?
What is the best practice for this ?
Enviorenment
ASP.NET MVC2 on amazon-ec2 server. Also we have timer quartz.net
I come from a linux/PHP background but it seems to me your problem can be solved with a queue?
You basically get all the emails you need sending add them to the queue and have another process take a few emails off the head of the queue and send. Rise, repeat until queue is empty.
Since you are on EC2, have you taken a look at how Amazon SQS might be able to help? If you want a readymade component, I googled and found this email queue component for asp.net that seems to solve the exact problem you are having (although will cost you $)
I have an application running on WebLogic Server with 6 instances. Many requests for the application come from Email. We already set up an email account that will be used by all clients to send email to. But the problem is that the email account inbox can only be opened for reading by a single connection, unlike a typical database.
Currently I can only deploy the email reading service on a single server instance, this will effectively create a single point of failure and unbalanced load. What's the best way to read from the same inbox from multiple servers? I am thinking developing something using a database table, sort of leasing, whoever locked the table own the lease and can connect to the email server, but this is pretty hard to implement correctly in all circumstances.
I am not sure why you say that only one client can access the inbox as POP certainly can handle multiple connections to the same inbox and this can be configured in the mail server. You might need to talk to your mail server admin.
I haven't worked with Weblogic to give you a specific answer, but you should also be able to have a service written that checks the incoming mail and process incoming mails into a database as you wanted. Once the information is in a database, you can use it via multiple hosts. This is a better approach as this can be setup to prevent multiple clients responding to the same email.
I have a PHP web app that is going to send out about 1,000 emails. I would love to test the performance beforehand. Is there any kind of service that provides dummy email addresses to send to, for this kind of testing? I can't find anything that's not just a general bulk-email service. The key here is I just want dummy addresses to send to.
If you have the ability to just purchase a domain name from a hosting service, I know at least 1&1 gives you like 2500 email addresses per domain so you could literally spam yourself to death and not worry about any other 3rd party. You can pick up a domain name for like
When you say "test the performance", do you mean you want to know about your deliverability rates, or how your emails look?
Deliverability Rates
This is entirely dependent on your SMTP server and the reputation of the IP that it will be sending from along with your domain's SPF records and the content of your email. To maximize this, I would recommend using a marketing email service such as MailChimp or MadMimi.
Appearance of Emails
You could always just send yourself a test email to see how it looks. An alternative is to use a service like PostageApp that has a built in template designer that has both an easy email preview function and a test send email function.
(Full Disclosure: I am the Product Manager of PostageApp.)
If you use "Post Hoc" you can send email to an unlimited number of email addresses. Post Hoc acts like an SMTP server, and receives the email messages that you are sending, but it does not forward them on anywhere. You do not need to set up any email inboxes ahead of time, so there is no problem if you have 1000 different unique email addresses. They do not need to be from a single domain -- you can use any email address you want. It stores the email messages received so that you can inspect them if necessary. You would run it locally so that there is no concern about network problems, and it is very low overhead since it does almost no processing of the email. This way, the performance measure will be mostly the sending side processing. Best of all, it is open source and freely available:
Find it on GitHub: GitHub for Post Hoc
Also see the blog post: PostHoc: Testing Apps that Send Email