I am working on a chat client. To get new messages (or post new one) I have to perform GET (or POST) request. All new messages are stored via core data. At the moment I don't know how to implement it in most optimal way.
My thoughts:
On view controller init stage create background thread which will periodically checks for new messages (if conversation is active - with short period, if not - with period about 60 secs). If there are new messages, we store them in DB and signal delegate that there are new messages to display.
Friend suggested to use performSelector afterDelay, but I don't understand how to use it in my app.
Something else?
Thanks in advance.
Don't use performSelector afterDelay. Using NSTimer is much better (as the trigger for starting the next download). Also, use NSOperationQueue to manage your background tasks. Create yourself a custom NSOperation that you can instantiate and it will complete your request process. When you create a new operation to check for new messages, check if one is already in progress (there is no point having multiple requests in progress at the same time).
Other notes:
Make sure you consider the threading with regards to the Core Data store (having the operation call back to the main thread with the results will probably be easiest as the result data will always be relatively small).
If you have lots of messages being sent and you want to show constant status (like Skype does, showing you when someone is typing) you would need to use sockets to keep the connection alive the whole time (the cost of new connections each time would be prohibitive).
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I was excited about the newly supported concurrent functions of CoreData since iOS 5.
A private queue is maintained and all save or fetch requests can be done via that queue.
However, can I set up the private queue for CoreData so that it executes request one by one?
My app is downloading news items from a number of feeds. Each time after downloading and parsing from one feed are finished, I just save the feed's items into CoreData via the private queue.
However, since I am downloading and parsing from multiple feeds simultaneously, I always have multiple groups of items, i.e., multiple save requests, for the CoreData.
Now the situation is that I guess CoreData just have a number of threads and each one is saving a group of items into the db. My UI got stuck in the mean time.
Do you think I can control the private queue so that no matter how many simultaneous save requests are, they will be done one by one?
Core Data is (probably) only using one serial queue or thread since its serial. I recently converted my app from using a serial queue I had created (app was 4.3) to use this new option in iOS 5. In all cases when you 'performBlock' the method is handled in a serial fashion. Also, you can now call '[moc performBlocK:...]' from any queue as that call is thread safe!
I believe what you want to do is have your background threads, which are most likely adding options, to use 'performBlock:' (without the wait). The block you provide is then queued and processed in a FIFO fashion. Later on, if your table wants to get objects, it can issue a 'performBlockAndWait:', or optionally your code can ask for the latest objects using performBlock, and at the end of the supplied block message back to your app the set of objects you need.
Also, I only ever save often in development builds, to verify validity. Once you are pretty sure things are working OK, you can then just perform a background save once all the data is downloaded.
EIDT: To reiterate - if you are downloading and also using images or other data while loading a viewController, and lots of things are going on, this is the WORST time to do a save. Use a timer or dispatch_after, and many seconds after everything seems stable THEN do the save.
I just got asked to reduce the traffic made by my GWT app. There is one method that checks for status.
This method is an asynchronous call wrapped in a Timer. I know web apps are stateless and all that, but I do wonder if there is some other way to do this, or if everyone has a Timer wrapped around a call when they need this kind of behaviour.
You can check out gwteventservice. It claims to have a way to push server events and notify the client.
I have a feeling they might be implemented as long running (hanging) client to server RPC calls which time out after an interval (say 20sec), and then are re-made. The server returns the callback if an event happens in the meanwhile.
I haven't used it personally but know of people using it to push events to the client. Have a look at the docs . If my assumption is correct, the idea is to send an RPC call to the server which does not return (hangs). If an event happens on the server, the server responds and that RPC call returns with the event. If there is no event, the call will time out in 20 seconds. Then a new call is made to the server which hangs in the same way until there is an event.
What this achieves is that it reduces the number of calls to the server to either one for each event (if there is one), or a call once every 20 seconds (if there isn't one). It looks like the 20 sec interval can be configured.
I imagine that if there is no event the amount of data sent back will be minimal - it might be possible to cancel the callback entirely, or have it fail without data transfer, but I don't really know.
Here is another resource on ServerPush - which is likely what's implemented by gwteventservice.
Running on Google app engine you could use they Channel technology
http://code.google.com/intl/en-US/appengine/docs/java/channel/overview.html
If you need the client to get the status from the server, then you pretty much have to make a call to the server to get it's status.
You could look at reducing the size of some of your messages
You could wind back the timer so the status call goes out less often
You could "optimise" so that the timer gets reset when some other client/server IO happens (i.e. if the server replies you know it is ok, so you don't need to send the next status request).
My app is able to consume a wcf using ASIHTTPRequest. But the thing is that i need to check the server hour every one minute. So i need a request to the server every one minute. What is more, sometime i will need to refresh the clock every one second.
the app is a items auction so i need to get the hour no matter what.
so my question is, is this going to kill the iphone?
ASIHTTPRequest have a method to achieve this? making calls every XX time?
some good way to do it?
Thx in advance!
Assuming the data you are getting back isn't larger than the memory threshold, and you are properly managing memory on your end, AND you are performing an asynchronous request (or a request on a background thread), this shouldn't kill the app memory-wise or cause it to hang.
I do something similar, where every 2 minutes I ping my server for updates. I achieve this using an NSURLConnection and NSURLRequest, though I imagine ASIHTTPRequest is not much different. I typically use a recurring timer that, when invoked, calls a method which, using Grand Central Dispatch, sets up my request/connection and fires.
So I'm working on this application that requests and retrieves webservice content for iPhone. The problem I am running into is this: When I initially request data, it is spawned off as an independent thread so that the application does not become unresponsive due to the network being slow. What this means is that if the user navigates away from the current page before this data finishes downloading, unexpected things can happen.
I have managed to narrow down the problem cases to one relatively simple one: I have some nested tables, so if a user goes down into the "Messages" table, which can sometimes take a little while to download, then back out immediately, and select a different set of messages to view, the previous set of messages ends up loading, because it was still in the queue.
Here are things I have tried:
1) I tried cancelling the operations, but this is futile, because since I only allow one operation in the queue at the time, it triggers immediately
2) I tried validating that the recipient of the data is the same, but this doesn't work because the actual table object is the between the two selections, it just needs a different data set.
Anyone have any general programming suggestions on how to solve this tricky threading problem?
On an iPhone specific note: if I could just stop the user from being able to back out of the messages table, I wouldn't have this problem, because they would basically be locked into that view until the data has finished loading.
Thanks!
This post has some design advice relating to iOS networking and threading. The basic gist of it is "Don't use explicit threading", and I couldn't agree more. NSURLConnection has great built-in functionality for asynchronously loading data from a URL while managing all of the threading for you. They can also be cancelled easily at will.
If you were to use the NSURLConnection paradigm, you can simply cancel any pending request when you back out of the requesting view controller.
I am new to objective-c/cocoa programming. I am making an application which is to constantly sync with a server and keep its view updated.
Now in a nutshell, heres what I thought of: Initiate an NSTimer to trigger every second or two, contact the server, if there is a change, update the view. Is this a good way of doing it?
I have read elsewhere that you can have a thread running in the background which monitors the changes and updates the view. I never worked with threads before and I know they can be quite troublesome and you need a good amount of experience with memory management to get most out of them.
I have one month to get this application done. What do you guys recommend? Just use an NSTimer and do it the way I though of...or learn multithreading and get it done that way (but keep in mind my time frame).
Thanks!
I think using separate thread in this case would be too much. You need to use threads when there is some task that runs for considerable amount of time and can freeze your app for some time.
In your case do this:
Create timer and call some method (say update) every N seconds.
in update send asynchronous request to server and check for any changes.
download data using NSURLConnection delegate and parse. Note: if there is probability that you can receive a huge amount of data from server and its processing can take much time (for example parsing of 2Mb of XML data) then you do need to perform that is a separate thread.
update all listeners (appropriate view controllers for example) with processed data.
continue polling using timer.
Think about requirements. The most relevant questions, IMO, are :
does your application have to get new data while running in background?
does your application need to be responsive, that is, not sluggish when it's fetching new data?
I guess the answer to the first question is probably no. If you are updating a view depending on the data, it's only required to fetch the data when the view is visible. You cannot guarantee always fetching data in background anyway, because iOS can always just kill your application. Anyway, in your application's perspective, multithreading is not relevant to this question. Because either you are updating only in foreground or also in background, your application need no more than one thread.
Multithreading is relevant rather to the second question. If your application has to remain responsive while fetching data, then you will have to run your fetching code on a detached thread. What's more important here is, the update on the user interface (like views) must happen on the main thread again.
Learning multithreading in general is something indeed, but iOS SDK provides a lot of help. Learning how to use operation queue (I guess that's the easiest to learn, but not necessarily the easiest to use) wouldn't take many days. In a month period, you can definitely finish the job.
Again, however, think clearly why you would need multithreading.