Im new to mongodb, I have one question:
Im setting up a mongoDB test env, with one mongos, 3 conf server, 2 shards ( 3 server as replication set for a shard )
let's say, for reasons I have a big lag of replication (like secondary is backing up, or network issue. or something else happening. in case it happens)
during this time, the primary server is down,
what will happen ? Auto fail-over select one secondary db as new primary, how about these data havnt replicated yet ?
are we gonna lost data ?
if so, how can we do to get data back and what need to be done, to avoid such issue.
thanks a lot.
during this time, the primary server is down, what will happen ?
No writes will be allowed
Auto fail-over select one secondary db as new primary, how about these data havnt replicated yet ?
If data has no replicated from the primary to the secondary which then becomes primary then a rollback will occur when the primary comes back into the set as a secondary: http://docs.mongodb.org/manual/core/replica-set-rollbacks/
Of course as to whether you lose data or not depends on whether the write went to journal and/or data files and whether the member just left the set or crashed. If the member crashed before the write could go to journal then there is a chance that the write could be lost, yes.
how can we do to get data back and what need to be done, to avoid such issue.
You can use w=majority for most cases but this will still have certain pitfalls within edge cases that just cannot be taken care of, for example if the primary fails over before the write can be propogated to other members etc.
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Take this circumstances when a client writes to a server in replica set mode:
Successful write & acknowledgement
Unsuccessful and error.
If 1. happens but right after that the primary goes down - before sending data to secondary nodes, there will be troubles. When going back in, it will roll back and although the client got an acknowledgement, the data is dismissed.
Question
why does it roll back instead of sending the data to the remaining nodes when the primary is back in? Does this happen because of an election? And what if the result of the election is the same node?
Conjecture: The server goes down, triggers an election, and a different server takes place. When it catches up the new primary, the written message it's not in the oplog, and I guess they continue with different oplogs?
I know we can change this behaviour using majority but would like to understand why this roll back happens.
Any ideas?
MongoDB implements single-master replication, which mandates that only one server is the authoritative source of replication at any time. If it were to replicate the data that is rolled back, it would have to merge it into the new primary and this is complicated and error-prone as the data could have been changed multiple times while the old primary was down.
When a primary goes down and later rejoins the cluster, it reconciles its own copy of the oplog with the one that is in the server that is currently the primary. Since other write operations could have happened in the meantime on the new primary, the new authoritative source of replication is the oplog of the new primary. So, the old primary has to purge its oplog of any operations that are not present in the oplog of the new primary and these are rolled back.
If no primary was available in the cluster when the server rejoins, election takes care of selecting the server with the newest copy of the data (based on the timestamp of the last operation in the oplog). This becomes the new primary and all other servers will sync their oplog to this. So, if the old primary becomes primary again and no newer writes happened in the cluster, then it will not rollback.
Rolled back data is not lost but put aside on a file so that it can be examined and eventually recovered by DBAs if needed. However, you should consider the nature of the data you are storing and, if it is crucial that rollbacks never happen, then use the appropriate write concern to ensure additional copies are made to guarantee it is never lost.
Everywhere I look, I see that MongoDB is CP.
But when I dig in I see it is eventually consistent.
Is it CP when you use safe=true? If so, does that mean that when I write with safe=true, all replicas will be updated before getting the result?
MongoDB is strongly consistent by default - if you do a write and then do a read, assuming the write was successful you will always be able to read the result of the write you just read. This is because MongoDB is a single-master system and all reads go to the primary by default. If you optionally enable reading from the secondaries then MongoDB becomes eventually consistent where it's possible to read out-of-date results.
MongoDB also gets high-availability through automatic failover in replica sets: http://www.mongodb.org/display/DOCS/Replica+Sets
I agree with Luccas post. You can't just say that MongoDB is CP/AP/CA, because it actually is a trade-off between C, A and P, depending on both database/driver configuration and type of disaster: here's a visual recap, and below a more detailed explanation.
Scenario
Main Focus
Description
No partition
CA
The system is available and provides strong consistency
partition, majority connected
AP
Not synchronized writes from the old primary are ignored
partition, majority not connected
CP
only read access is provided to avoid separated and inconsistent systems
Consistency:
MongoDB is strongly consistent when you use a single connection or the correct Write/Read Concern Level (Which will cost you execution speed). As soon as you don't meet those conditions (especially when you are reading from a secondary-replica) MongoDB becomes Eventually Consistent.
Availability:
MongoDB gets high availability through Replica-Sets. As soon as the primary goes down or gets unavailable else, then the secondaries will determine a new primary to become available again. There is an disadvantage to this: Every write that was performed by the old primary, but not synchronized to the secondaries will be rolled back and saved to a rollback-file, as soon as it reconnects to the set(the old primary is a secondary now). So in this case some consistency is sacrificed for the sake of availability.
Partition Tolerance:
Through the use of said Replica-Sets MongoDB also achieves the partition tolerance: As long as more than half of the servers of a Replica-Set is connected to each other, a new primary can be chosen. Why? To ensure two separated networks can not both choose a new primary. When not enough secondaries are connected to each other you can still read from them (but consistency is not ensured), but not write. The set is practically unavailable for the sake of consistency.
As a brilliant new article showed up and also some awesome experiments by Kyle in this field, you should be careful when labeling MongoDB, and other databases, as C or A.
Of course CAP helps to track down without much words what the database prevails about it, but people often forget that C in CAP means atomic consistency (linearizability), for example. And this caused me lots of pain to understand when trying to classify. So, besides MongoDB give strong consistency, that doesn't mean that is C. In this way, if one make this classifications, I recommend to also give more depth in how it actually works to not leave doubts.
Yes, it is CP when using safe=true. This simply means, the data made it to the masters disk.
If you want to make sure it also arrived on some replica, look into the 'w=N' parameter where N is the number of replicas the data has to be saved on.
see this and this for more information.
MongoDB selects Consistency over Availability whenever there is a Partition. What it means is that when there's a partition(P) it chooses Consistency(C) over Availability(A).
To understand this, Let's understand how MongoDB does replica set works. A Replica Set has a single Primary node. The only "safe" way to commit data is to write to that node and then wait for that data to commit to a majority of nodes in the set. (you will see that flag for w=majority when sending writes)
Partition can occur in two scenarios as follows :
When Primary node goes down: system becomes unavailable until a new
primary is selected.
When Primary node looses connection from too many
Secondary nodes: system becomes unavailable. Other secondaries will try to
elect a new Primary and current primary will step down.
Basically, whenever a partition happens and MongoDB needs to decide what to do, it will choose Consistency over Availability. It will stop accepting writes to the system until it believes that it can safely complete those writes.
Mongodb never allows write to secondary. It allows optional reads from secondary but not writes. So if your primary goes down, you can't write till a secondary becomes primary again. That is how, you sacrifice High Availability in CAP theorem. By keeping your reads only from primary you can have strong consistency.
I'm not sure about P for Mongo. Imagine situation:
Your replica gets split into two partitions.
Writes continue to both sides as new masters were elected
Partition is resolved - all servers are now connected again
What happens is that new master is elected - the one that has highest oplog, but the data from the other master gets reverted to the common state before partition and it is dumped to a file for manual recovery
all secondaries catch up with the new master
The problem here is that the dump file size is limited and if you had a partition for a long time you can loose your data forever.
You can say that it's unlikely to happen - yes, unless in the cloud where it is more common than one may think.
This example is why I would be very careful before assigning any letter to any database. There's so many scenarios and implementations are not perfect.
If anyone knows if this scenario has been addressed in later releases of Mongo please comment! (I haven't been following everything that was happening for some time..)
Mongodb gives up availability. When we talk about availability in the context of the CAP theorem, it is about avoiding single points of failure that can go down. In mongodb. there is a primary router host. and if that goes down,there is gonna be some downtime in the time that it takes for it to elect a new replacement server to take its place. In practical, that is gonna happen very qucikly. we do have a couple of hot standbys sitting there ready to go. So as soon as the system detects that primary routing host went down, it is gonna switch over to a new one pretty much right away. Technically speaking it is still single point of failure. There is still a chance of downtime when that happens.
There is a config server, that is the primary and we have an app server, that is primary at any given time. even though we have multiple backups, there is gonna be a brief period of downtime if any of those servers go down. the system has to first detect that there was an outage and then remaining servers need to reelect a new primary host to take its place. that might take a few seconds and this is enough to say that mongodb is trading off the availability
I have a 3 node MongoDB (2.6.3) replica set and am testing various failure scenarios.
It was my understanding that if a majority of the replica nodes are not available then the replica set becomes read only. But what I am experiencing is if I shut down my 2 secondary nodes, the last remaining node (which was previously primary) becomes a secondary and I cannot even read from it.
From the docs:
Users may configure read preference on a per-connection basis to
prefer that the read operations return on the secondary members. If
clients configure the read preference to permit secondary reads, read
operations can return from secondary members that have not replicated
more recent updates or operations. When reading from a secondary, a
query may return data that reflects a previous state.
It sounds like I can configure my client to allow reads from secondaries, but since it was the primary node that I left up, it should be up to date with all of the data. Does MongoDB make the last node secondary even if it is fully caught up with data?
As you've noted, once you've shut down the two secondaries, your primary steps down and becomes a secondary (it's a normal scenario once a primary looses connection to the majority of members).
The default read preference of a replica set is to read from primary, but since your former primary is not even primary anymore, as you have encountered , "I cannot even read from it."
You can change read-preference on a driver/database/collection and even operation basis.
since it was the primary node that I left up, it should be up to date with all of the data. Does MongoDB make the last node secondary even if it is fully caught up with data?
As said, the primary becomes secondary as it steps down, nothing to do with the fact that it's up to date or not. It wouldn't read even because of the default read preference, if you will change your driver preference to secondary , nearest or so, you'll be able to continue reading even if a single node (former primary) remains.
I have a replica set configured with 3 servers:
Primary
Secondary
Arbiter
For durability I am inserting new documents with w:majority.
What happens if my primary or secondary servers go down? Will my writes still be successful albeit less durable? What happens if the secondary and arbiter nodes go down -- will I still be able to write to the primary using the same w:majority?
Will my writes still be successful albeit less durable?
No since the majority of configured members is no longer up, plus the Arb is a non data holding node.
Edit
Misread the "or" for an "and".
If one goes down then writes will still continue, after an election if the primary goes but as you said they will be less durable due to the Arb being a non data holding node.
What happens if the secondary and arbiter nodes go down
Again the Primary will initiate an election and step down to a secondry when that election fails.
(You can set the vote settings of the other two to stop this but not sure if that's a good idea)
will I still be able to write to the primary using the same w:majority?
No only read from the once primary.
Everywhere I look, I see that MongoDB is CP.
But when I dig in I see it is eventually consistent.
Is it CP when you use safe=true? If so, does that mean that when I write with safe=true, all replicas will be updated before getting the result?
MongoDB is strongly consistent by default - if you do a write and then do a read, assuming the write was successful you will always be able to read the result of the write you just read. This is because MongoDB is a single-master system and all reads go to the primary by default. If you optionally enable reading from the secondaries then MongoDB becomes eventually consistent where it's possible to read out-of-date results.
MongoDB also gets high-availability through automatic failover in replica sets: http://www.mongodb.org/display/DOCS/Replica+Sets
I agree with Luccas post. You can't just say that MongoDB is CP/AP/CA, because it actually is a trade-off between C, A and P, depending on both database/driver configuration and type of disaster: here's a visual recap, and below a more detailed explanation.
Scenario
Main Focus
Description
No partition
CA
The system is available and provides strong consistency
partition, majority connected
AP
Not synchronized writes from the old primary are ignored
partition, majority not connected
CP
only read access is provided to avoid separated and inconsistent systems
Consistency:
MongoDB is strongly consistent when you use a single connection or the correct Write/Read Concern Level (Which will cost you execution speed). As soon as you don't meet those conditions (especially when you are reading from a secondary-replica) MongoDB becomes Eventually Consistent.
Availability:
MongoDB gets high availability through Replica-Sets. As soon as the primary goes down or gets unavailable else, then the secondaries will determine a new primary to become available again. There is an disadvantage to this: Every write that was performed by the old primary, but not synchronized to the secondaries will be rolled back and saved to a rollback-file, as soon as it reconnects to the set(the old primary is a secondary now). So in this case some consistency is sacrificed for the sake of availability.
Partition Tolerance:
Through the use of said Replica-Sets MongoDB also achieves the partition tolerance: As long as more than half of the servers of a Replica-Set is connected to each other, a new primary can be chosen. Why? To ensure two separated networks can not both choose a new primary. When not enough secondaries are connected to each other you can still read from them (but consistency is not ensured), but not write. The set is practically unavailable for the sake of consistency.
As a brilliant new article showed up and also some awesome experiments by Kyle in this field, you should be careful when labeling MongoDB, and other databases, as C or A.
Of course CAP helps to track down without much words what the database prevails about it, but people often forget that C in CAP means atomic consistency (linearizability), for example. And this caused me lots of pain to understand when trying to classify. So, besides MongoDB give strong consistency, that doesn't mean that is C. In this way, if one make this classifications, I recommend to also give more depth in how it actually works to not leave doubts.
Yes, it is CP when using safe=true. This simply means, the data made it to the masters disk.
If you want to make sure it also arrived on some replica, look into the 'w=N' parameter where N is the number of replicas the data has to be saved on.
see this and this for more information.
MongoDB selects Consistency over Availability whenever there is a Partition. What it means is that when there's a partition(P) it chooses Consistency(C) over Availability(A).
To understand this, Let's understand how MongoDB does replica set works. A Replica Set has a single Primary node. The only "safe" way to commit data is to write to that node and then wait for that data to commit to a majority of nodes in the set. (you will see that flag for w=majority when sending writes)
Partition can occur in two scenarios as follows :
When Primary node goes down: system becomes unavailable until a new
primary is selected.
When Primary node looses connection from too many
Secondary nodes: system becomes unavailable. Other secondaries will try to
elect a new Primary and current primary will step down.
Basically, whenever a partition happens and MongoDB needs to decide what to do, it will choose Consistency over Availability. It will stop accepting writes to the system until it believes that it can safely complete those writes.
Mongodb never allows write to secondary. It allows optional reads from secondary but not writes. So if your primary goes down, you can't write till a secondary becomes primary again. That is how, you sacrifice High Availability in CAP theorem. By keeping your reads only from primary you can have strong consistency.
I'm not sure about P for Mongo. Imagine situation:
Your replica gets split into two partitions.
Writes continue to both sides as new masters were elected
Partition is resolved - all servers are now connected again
What happens is that new master is elected - the one that has highest oplog, but the data from the other master gets reverted to the common state before partition and it is dumped to a file for manual recovery
all secondaries catch up with the new master
The problem here is that the dump file size is limited and if you had a partition for a long time you can loose your data forever.
You can say that it's unlikely to happen - yes, unless in the cloud where it is more common than one may think.
This example is why I would be very careful before assigning any letter to any database. There's so many scenarios and implementations are not perfect.
If anyone knows if this scenario has been addressed in later releases of Mongo please comment! (I haven't been following everything that was happening for some time..)
Mongodb gives up availability. When we talk about availability in the context of the CAP theorem, it is about avoiding single points of failure that can go down. In mongodb. there is a primary router host. and if that goes down,there is gonna be some downtime in the time that it takes for it to elect a new replacement server to take its place. In practical, that is gonna happen very qucikly. we do have a couple of hot standbys sitting there ready to go. So as soon as the system detects that primary routing host went down, it is gonna switch over to a new one pretty much right away. Technically speaking it is still single point of failure. There is still a chance of downtime when that happens.
There is a config server, that is the primary and we have an app server, that is primary at any given time. even though we have multiple backups, there is gonna be a brief period of downtime if any of those servers go down. the system has to first detect that there was an outage and then remaining servers need to reelect a new primary host to take its place. that might take a few seconds and this is enough to say that mongodb is trading off the availability