JBoss Fuse Vs JBoss ESB - can find good info - jboss-esb

I does anyone have a short explanation on the diff between JBoss Fuse and JBoss ESB. ?
What will I gain by using JBoss ESB ?
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SOA with RedHat what to choose ? JBoss ESB ? JBoss FUSE ? JBoss switchyard ?
JBoss ESB is currently and will continue to be supported as part of SOA Platform 5. For SOA Platform 6, JBoss ESB will be replaced by SwitchYard. SOA Platform 6 shares many key elements with Fuse, including support for Apache Camel, CXF, and ActiveMQ. All of these projects will be active on the community front as they are all supported in products offered by Red Hat and will be for some time.
There were a number of sessions at Red Hat Summit this year which talked about alignment and roadmap for Red Hat integration. The slides should be available soon here:
http://www.redhat.com/summit/2013/presentations/

JBOSS ESB has reached the EOL.
Our customer now using JBOSS FUSE 6.0, but they have an issue with a simple webservice proxy...
Upgrading to JBOSS Fuse 6.1 may help, but it is very different from 6.0
I think the best choice if you start with microservice architecture.

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How to do BPEL,BPM deployment in JBoss AS7/EAP

Jboss says to deploy BPEL applications in Either EAP or AS7 servers. I could nt deploy BPEL applications in Any of those servers. When searched in google, Some posts says Switchyard is better to use for BPEL or BPM applications and its been aquired by JBoss and release by JBoss as JBossFuse. I tried JBossFuse as well, JBossFuse cannot detect BPEL or BPM applications either through Eclipse. I have tried WSO2 and it was better than JBoss servers. I would like to use JBoss stack of products as it is a big community. Can someone suggest which is best server to deploy BPEL or BPM applications in Jboss servers.
Please provide links to download as well.
Now that RiftSaw (http://riftsaw.jboss.org/), which is the integration layer for Apache ODE with JBoss EAP/WildFly, is part of SwitchYard, SwitchYard is the only framework under JBoss umbrella that enables you to deploy/run BPEL applications.
https://docs.jboss.org/author/display/SWITCHYARD/BPEL
However, one thing you should note is that in SwitchYard BPEL applications can be developed only in the form of a SwitchYard service, so you also need to learn SwitchYard, which is a kind of ESB or integration framework on top of SCA & CDI/Camel. I wouldn't recommend BPEL compared to BPM for a new project, because the JBoss community for BPEL is not active. In contrast to Apache ODE, SwitchYard is not designed to run a plain BPEL application.
On the other hand, if you want to develop/deploy BPM applications on JBoss EAP/WildFly, then jBPM (http://www.jbpm.org/) is the option. As jBPM is the premier open-source BPM project and is being actively developed, it would be the best choice if you start a business process project.
As a bonus, if you want to use JBoss Fuse, there is an official integration pack for jBPM:
https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_JBoss_Fuse/6.2.1/html/Integration_Guide/index.html
Also note that JBoss Fuse includes SwitchYard, so you can develop/run BPEL SwitchYard services on both Karaf and EAP containers.
There was a trick with Jboss EAP 6.4 server not recognizing BPEL / BPM (Switchyard). When you install vanilla EAP 6.4 server , you wont have Fuse packages installed in it. They say you can work with fuse server, But fuse server wont be working as EAP server works from Eclipse(JBDS). So you need to install Fuse over your EAP server to recognize your BPEL/BPM or Swithyard applications.Check out below solution from Redhat website.
https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_JBoss_Fuse/6.2.1/html/Installation_on_JBoss_EAP/Installing_Red_Hat_JBoss_Fuse_on_EAP.html

Jboss fuse with EAP container

I am new to Jboss fuse. I went through several tuitorials regarding fuse.
JBoss Fuse combines several technologies like Apache Camel, Apache CXF, Apache ActiveMQ, Apache Karaf and Fabric8
in a single integrated distribution.
I have downloaded the installer from jboss site and installed in to jboss-EAP 6.4 . I checked the standalone.xml and didnt find any configuration regarding
Apache ActiveMQ, Apache Karaf and Fabric8.
My doubt is without these configurations how fuse will support messaging service and osgi ?
I am trying to use fuse in jboss-EAP 6.4 server as osgi.(fuse+server+osgi)
Please guide me.
JBoss EAP is for your web application. JBoss Fuse is the middleware and ActiveMQ is the message broker.
There is no ActiveMq in EAP as it's your Application Server where you run your web applications. You can use ActiveMq in EAP but it's not designed for that. However you can find an ActiveMq configuration in JBoss Fuse where is more suitable to use broker. JBoss Fuse isn't something you can use inside the EAP but it's a separate application that you can use WITH the EAP. So your question probably is "how to connect JBoss Fuse and JBoss EAP?" If so, then you can achieve that by using HTTP queries from EAP to Fuse for example.
About your doubt JBoss Fuse supports OSGi and by using Apache Camel inside your OSGi bundles you can use the ActiveMq component to connect and send/receive AMQ messages.
If you tell us more what you are trying to achieve using the JBoss ESB Stack probably we can help you more.
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JBOSS latest version

I am going to start a new enterprise application. Which version I wanted to use?
Is it EAP 6.2.0 GA(EAP built from AS 7.3) or JBoss AS 7.1.0.Final or Wildfly 8.1.0.Final? I am very confused about these versions. when do i have to download EAP 6.2.0?
Also, why wildfly is not avaialbe on http://jbossas.jboss.org/downloads/? why?
I was having the impression that wildfly and jboss8 as are same. If both are same,
why it is not avalible in the downloads of above link?
the community version of JBoss has been renamed to Wildfly and can be found here: http://wildfly.org/downloads/. EAP 6.2 is the commercial version of JBoss provided by RedHat for which you get professional support by them.
Which version you choose depends on your requirements and whether you are willing to spend money for it ;) But if you are going with the community version, it wouldn't make sense to start with JBoss AS 7 since Wildfly 8 provides Java EE 7 support, JBoss AS 7 not. I've recently migrated a huge industry-strength project to Wildfly and am very surprised by the new application server. Nevertheless, with my current experience, I would recommend to go with EAP and professional support for large projects that utilize the whole Java EE stack. The only drawback there is that EAP 6 doesn't support Java EE 7 yet.
Jboss EAP is Red Hat product while wildfly is community version. Latest EAP version available currently is EAP 7.1.2, you will have to buy Red Hat subscription to use the same. Wildfly is opensource community version for the same, which you download and use freely.
Which version to be used will depend completely on your project requirement and budget. EAP would be more stable and tested product which can be used for critical production applications, also Red Hat will provide complete support if you purchase the subscription.
But if you have budget constraints and want to use free application server wildfly can be used.

What's the difference between JBoss ESB and JBoss HornetQ

Çould anyone explain me the difference b/W Jboss ESB and Jboss HornetQ? Do i need Jboss ESB to use JBoss HornetQ?
HornetQ is a Enterprise Grade JMS Messaging System.
JBoss ESB is a Enterprise Service Bus technology that can make use of a JMS Messaging System.
In the case of JBoss there is a bundled technology platform called JBoss SOA Platform that includes an installation of JBoss ESB and HornetQ Messaging into JBoss EAP 5.1.
In short: HornetQ doesn't use JBoss ESB. JBoss ESB can use HornetQ but its not required.

JBoss Enterprise Application Platform vs JBoss Enterprise SOA Platform

What can JBoss EAP do that JBoss ESP cannot? or vice verse?
Is it correct to say JBoss EAP is a subset of JBoss ESP? Meaning JBoss ESP has all the features JBoss EAP has, plus the SOA stuff?
This is the answer JBoss emailed to me.
JBoss SOA-P is a superset of JBoss EAP. Details such as version numbers are listed at http://www.jboss.com/products/platforms/soa/components/, but SOA-P is EAP plus an Enterprise Service Bus (ESB), Business Process Management engine (jBPM) and a Rules engine (Drools).
The SOA Platform can do everything that the underlying version of EAP can do.