I can't work out a definitive answer on this, but from searching I find two links which seem to indicate to me that a server (in this case it's MS Exchange as per the links) can have different certificates in place for https than for secure smtp/TLS.
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-GB/library/bb851505(v=exchg.80).aspx
https://www.sslshopper.com/article-how-to-use-ssl-certificates-with-exchange-2007.html
I have an issue which no-one has been able to help with here and this question is a follow on, in that I am coming to the suspicion that my first problem is that my machine trusts the https certificate, but not the one being used for smtp/TLS. But what I'm asking now, is that even possible?
Going through the diagnostic steps here shows me that the certificates in use when I access my mail server's web interface through https are fully trusted. However when I look at the debug of my c# process it is stating a completely different certificate issued by one of our servers to it's self (the server on which exchange is installed).
So... any one know if it's possible that I am thinking along the right lines... is it possible that when I do an https connection I get one certificate and when I use the .net SMTP client I get a completely different certificate (from exactly the same address, but I assume a different port)?
Is it possible that when I do an https connection I get one certificate and when I use the .net SMTP client I get a completely different certificate (from exactly the same address, but I assume a different port)?
Yes, you can have a different certificate for each listening socket on the machine, that is SMTP and HTTPS can use different certificates. On a machine with multiple hostnames you could even have multiple different certificates on a single socket, which get distinguished by the hostname (using SNI).
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I am developing an app with a server part programmed in Go and a client programmed in C#, the connection between the two is made using TCP socket communication, and to ensure the connection I am using TLS.
My question is whether there would be any security problem in my case when using self-signed certificates for TLS communication.
I understand that for a web server that uses https it is necessary to use certificates signed by a certificate authority (CA) but in my case, when connecting my own client application I don't see why I should use one of these.
If anyone knows anything about it, it would be a great help.
Certificates are used for authenticating the end points, and usually the cert is signed by a certificate authority which your client (such as a web browser) already trusts. Using a self-signed cert in that scenario can lead to problems, as the browser won't trust it, and so will pop a warning box. However, the real issue is that for the typical user, a warning from your server is as good as indistinguishable from an attacker using another self-signed certificate. They'll click-away and KABOOM!
If this is a closed environment, and you control both the server and client, then the self-signed certificate is irrelevant. In fact, you don't even need one at all, and may be better off with one of the alternatives, like TLS-PSK, or TLS-SRP.
I have a gadget[*] that connects to the user's WiFi network and responds to commands over a simple REST interface. The user uses a web app to control this gadget. The web app is currently served over http and the app's javascript does AJAX calls to the gadget's local IP address to control it. This scheme works well and I have no issues with it.
[*] By "gadget" I mean an actual, physical IoT device that the user buys and installs within their home, and configures to connect to their home WiFi network
Now, I want to serve this web app over https. I have no issue setting up https on the hosting side. The problem is, now the browser blocks access to the gadget (since the gadget's REST API is over http and not https).
The obvious solution is to have the gadget serve it's REST API over https. But how? It has a local IP address and no one will issue a certificate for it. (Even if they did, I'd have to buy a boatload of certificates for each possible local IP address.) I could round-trip via the cloud (by adding additional logic on my server side to accept commands from the web app and forward it to the gadget over another connection), but this will increase latencies.
Is there a way around this problem? One possibility that I have in mind is to:
Get a wildcard certificate (say, *.mydomain.com)
Run my own DNS that maps sub-domains to a local IP address following a pattern (For example, 192-168-1-123.mydomain.com would map to 192.168.1.123)
Use the wild-card certificate in all the gadgets
My web app could then make AJAX calls to https://192-168-1-123.mydomain.com instead of http://192.168.1.123 and latencies would remain unaffected aside from the initial DNS lookup
Would this work? It's an expensive experiment to try out (wildcard certificates cost ~$200) and running a DNS server seems like a lot of work. Plus I find myself under-qualified to think through the security implications.
Perhaps there's already a service out there that solves this problem?
While this is a pretty old question, it is still nothing that you find out-of-the-box solutions for today.
Just as #Jaffa-the-cake posted in a comment, you can lean on how Plex did it, which Filippo Valsorda explained in his blog:
https://blog.filippo.io/how-plex-is-doing-https-for-all-its-users/
This is very similar to what you proposed yourself. You don't even need a wildcard certificate, but you can generate certificates on-the-fly using Let's Encrypt. (You can still use wildcard certificates, if you want, which Let's Encrypt supports now, too.)
Just yesterday I did a manual proof-of-concept for that workflow, that can be automated with the following steps:
Write a Web Service that can create DNS entries for individual devices dynamically and generate matching certificates via Let's Encrypt - this is pretty easy using certbot and e.g. Google Cloud DNS. I guess Azure, AWS and others have similar offerings, too. When you use certbot's DNS plugins, you don't even need to have an actual web server running on port 80/443.
On you local device, contact that Web Service to generate a unique DNS entry (e.g. ..yourdns.com) and certificate for that domain
Use that certificate in your local HTTPS server
Browse to that domain instead of your local IP
Now you will have a HTTPS connection to your local server, using a local IP, but a publicly resolved DNS entry.
The downside is that this does not work offline from arbitrary clients. And you need to think of a good security concept to create trust between the client that requests a DNS and certificate, and your web service that will generate those.
BTW, do you mind sharing what kind of gadget it is that you are building?
If all you want is to access the device APIs through the web browser, A Simple solution would be to proxy all the requests to the device through your web server.this was even self signed certs for the devices wont be a problem. Only problem though is that the server would have to be on the same network as your devices.
If you are not on the same network, you can write a simple browser plugin (chrome) to send the api request to IoT device. but then the dependency on the app/plugin will be clumsy.
I'm developing an application on Azure VM and would like to secure it by using the wildcard SSL certificate that I'm already using with my main domain. The SSL cert works with any *.mydomain.com and the application on Azure VM is accessible through myapplication.cloudapp.net
Based on the research that I've done, CNAME should be the best option to do that (I can't use A record since we need to shutdown the VMs every week and turn them back on the next week and will lose the ip addresses).
My two questions are:
How can I have myapplication.cloudapp.net be shown as subdomain.mydomain.com?
Will doing that make it possible for wildcard SSL certificate to be used for Azure application too?
How can I have myapplication.cloudapp.net be shown as
subdomain.mydomain.com?
Yes - this is just the CNAME forwarding and ensuring that the appropriate SSL certificate is installed on the server.
Will doing that make it possible for wildcard SSL certificate to be used for Azure application too?
Well as you're already exposing the Application through the VM - this should happen seemlessly.
Just a word of caution, you mention that you're using the certificate on the main domain, but haven't mentioned where you're using this. Be aware that, out-of-the-box, you can only assign one SSL per HTTPS endpoint. You can enable multiple SSL certificates on an Endpoint for Azure / IIS using Server Name Identification and can be enabled directly or automatically. If you do take this route, remember to configure your SNI bindings first, then apply the default binding - it kinda screws up otherwise.
I am working with a client who needs SSL on their Email and Web Site.
We have their site hosted on a Rackspace Cloud Site (Wordpress so Apache and all that jazz).
From what I can tell their Email is on an ISS server of their own.
They want to apply this SSL Cert they bought through GoDaddy and apply it to this email server and to the site on our hosting server. Now I am only a Web Developer with enough server knowledge to get sites launched and running, But I don't think you can apply the same SSL Cert on two different types of servers.
What would the solution be for this?
Would you purchase a second ssl? Is that even possible?
Sorry if this is a all completely wrong I am trying to use my limited knowledge of SSL to describe the situation.
I'm pretty sure you can use the same certificate if it's going on two servers as long as they are both using the same domain. You don't need to purchase a second ssl. The tricky part might be if the two servers require different certificate file formats.
Also, just do the CSR part on ONE of the servers (use the one you trust the most). On the other server just install the certificate bypassing the CSR part.
I need to setup a cron job to run a SOAP client. The customer insists that I connect to their web service (on an https address) from an https address. They insist that if I don't their response to me can't be encrypted.
My first question is, is that true? I thought that as long as I'm connecting to their SOAP service over https, the response back would automatically be encrypted.
If that's true, how can I run a cron job to be as https? My site is on a LAMP setup with cPanel access.
Thank you in advance for your help!
Your customers statement seems to be a little bit unclear in what he/she specifically means by "... connecting from an https adress" as there isn't any notion of the term "https adress" in the specs and https URLS only seem to make sense in the context of Request-URI s given in a https request.
Given this unclarity I'm only wild guessing. Nevertheless to me it seems your clients requirements might most probably not be connected to the http protocol but rather to establishing your TLS connection.
If your client is very sensitive in respect to the security of his system - which in fact if he intends to offer RPC requests might be a very good idea - he might not want to the whole world to be able to connect an encrypted connection to his machines and rely on any secondary authentication mechanism once the connection has been established.
As most users of the public internet don't have any certificates signed by a trusted authority this feature it isn't used out in the open wild but besides server authentication the TLS handshake protocol also provides a means of client authentication via client certificates (the relevant part being section 7 in RFC 5246 here. see: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc5246#section-7)
While in the absence of widely used client certificates web services usually rely on establishing an encryted connection to first to authenticate users by some kind of challange response test like querying for username and password your client might want to either additionally secure access to his machines by additionally requiring a valid client certificate or even - probably not the best idea - replace a second authorization like the one already mentioned above.
Nevertheless all this are nothing but some ideas that I came along with given the riddle in your question.
Most probably the best idea might be to just ask your client what he/she meant when saying "... connecting from an https adress"