I am developing a messaging system (in java) that can support around 10k users. The architecture is supposed to be as following :
- 10k clients
- 2 or more replicas of the server (each on a different machine)
- 1 postgre DB
The application is aimed to run on a clustered environment (Amazone Webservice).
Now, I have read a couple of things on Schemas in Postgre DB's. I am not sure if I should use them (and in what way) or if a simple relational DB model will do.
Basically, the DB is supposed to be very simple (messages/metadata, queueID for messages, and users).
Thank you for your answers
Don't bother with schemas. They are useful for semantically separating information in a database with lots of tables that can be grouped into clusters relevant to separate topics. They don't help you with performance, clustering or replicating databases. Also, I agree with Frank Heikens - unless each of your users sends messages with high frequency, I wouldn't worry.
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I have one machine on which several applications are hosted. Applications work on separated data and don't interact - each application only needs access to its own data. I want to use PostgreSQL as RDBMS. Which one of the following is best and why?
One global Postgres sever, one global database, one schema per application.
One global Postgres server, one database per application.
One Postgres server per application.
Feel free to suggest additional architectures if you think they would be better than the ones above.
The questions you need to ask yourself: does any application ever need to access data from another application (in the same SQL statement). If you can can answer that with a clear NO, then you should at least go for separate databases. Cross-database queries aren't that straight-forward in Postgres, so if the different applications do need a lot of data from other applications, then solution 1 might be deployment layout to think about. If this would only concern very few tables, then using foreign data wrappers with different databases might still be a better solution.
Solution 2 and 3 are more or less the same from the perspective of each application. One thing to keep in mind when deciding between 2 and 3 is availability. Some configuration changes to Postgres require a restart of the service. Is an outage of all applications acceptable in that case, even though the change was only necessary for one?
But you can always start with option 2 and then move database to different servers later.
Another question to ask is if all applications always use the same (major) Postgres version With solution 2 you must make sure that all applications are compatible with a new Postgres version if one of them wants to upgrade e.g. because of new features that the application wants to use.
Solution 1 is stupid : a SQL schema is not a database. Use SQL schema for one application that have multiple "parts" like "Poduction", "sales", "marketing", "finances"...
While the final volume of the data won't be too heavy and the number of user won't be too much, use only one PG cluster to facilitate administration tasks
If the volume of data or the number of user increases, it will be time to separates your different databases on new distinct PG clusters....
We are looking into using Asp Net Boilerplate. Looks very promising. We love the framework, but we would like to be able to use a per-schema Multitenancy configuration. Instead of sharing the data in the same db & tables, each tenant would "have" a schema, in which the whole database structure would be replicated.
One of our data tables will be quite big (sometimes +1 million entries / tenant), and we were advised that for performance reasons, it's better to keep the number of entries as low as possible. Also, this particular table will be queried & inserted a lot. It would be unrealistic that this table would hold data for 40+ tenants. For that reason, and others, we would prefer to have a distinct schema per tenant.
Our DB is a single PostgreSQL server (might scale up to more in the future). We use EntityFramework & Npgsql. We already noticed that it is possible to set up a different ConnectionString for specific tenants that would have bigger data requirements.
http://www.summa.com/blog/2013/09/17/approaches-to-multi-tenancy See separate schema per tenant
Any idea on how to acheive a schema-per-tenant multitenancy? There's a lot of moving parts in this, I'm not sure where to start.
There is a web application which is running for a years and during its life time the application has gathered a lot of user data. Data is stored in relational DB (postgres). Not all of this data is needed to run application (to do the business). However form time to time business people ask me to provide reports of this data data. And this causes some problems:
sometimes these SQL queries are long running
quires are executed against production DB (not cool)
not so easy to deliver reports on weekly or monthly base
some parts of data is stored in way which is not suitable for such
querying (queries are inefficient)
My idea (note that I am a developer not the data mining specialist) how to improve this whole process of delivering reports is:
create separate DB which regularly is update with production data
optimize how data is stored
create a dashboard to present reports
Question: But is there a better way? Is there another DB which better fits for such data analysis? Or should I look into modern data mining tools?
Thanks!
Do you really do data mining (as in: classification, clustering, anomaly detection), or is "data mining" for you any reporting on the data? In the latter case, all the "modern data mining tools" will disappoint you, because they serve a different purpose.
Have you used the indexing functionality of Postgres well? Your scenario sounds as if selection and aggregation are most of the work, and SQL databases are excellent for this - if well designed.
For example, materialized views and triggers can be used to process data into a scheme more usable for your reporting.
There are a thousand ways to approach this issue but I think that the path of least resistance for you would be postgres replication. Check out this Postgres replication tutorial for a quick, proof-of-concept. (There are many hits when you Google for postgres replication and that link is just one of them.) Here is a link documenting streaming replication from the PostgreSQL site's wiki.
I am suggesting this because it meets all of your criteria and also stays withing the bounds of the technology you're familiar with. The only learning curve would be the replication part.
Replication solves your issue because it would create a second database which would effectively become your "read-only" db which would be updated via the replication process. You would keep the schema the same but your indexing could be altered and reports/dashboards customized. This is the database you would query. Your main database would be your transactional database which serves the users and the replicated database would serve the stakeholders.
This is a wide topic, so please do your diligence and research it. But it's also something that can work for you and can be quickly turned around.
If you really want try Data Mining with PostgreSQL there are some tools which can be used.
The very simple way is KNIME. It is easy to install. It has full featured Data Mining tools. You can access your data directly from database, process and save it back to database.
Hardcore way is MADLib. It installs Data Mining functions in Python and C directly in Postgres so you can mine with SQL queries.
Both projects are stable enough to try it.
For reporting, we use non-transactional (read only) database. We don't care about normalization. If I were you, I would use another database for reporting. I will desing the tables following OLAP principals, (star schema, snow flake), and use an ETL tool to dump the data periodically (may be weekly) to the read only database to start creating reports.
Reports are used for decision support, so they don't have to be in realtime, and usually don't have to be current. In other words it is acceptable to create report up to last week or last month.
We have a SaaS application where each tenant has its own database in Postgres. How would I apply a patch to all the databses? For example if I want to add a table or add a column to a table, I have to either write a program that loops through all databases and execute a SQL against them or using pgadmin, go through them one by one.
Is there smarter and/or faster way?
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Yes, there's a smarter way.
Don't create a new database for each tenant. If everything is in one database then you only need to alter one database.
Pick one database, alter each table to have the column TENANT and add this to the primary key. Then insert into this database every record for all tenants and drop the other databases (obviously considerably more work than this as your application will need to be changed).
The differences with your approach are extensively discussed elsewhere:
What problems will I get creating a database per customer?
What are the advantages of using a single database for EACH client?
Multiple schemas versus enormous tables
Practicality of multiple databases per client vs one database
Multi-tenancy - single database vs multiple database
If you don't put everything in one database then I'm afraid you have to alter them all individually, and doing it programatically would be simplest.
At a higher level, all multi-tenant applications follow one of three approaches:
One tenant's data lives in one database,
One tenant's data lives in one schema, or
Add a tenant_id / account_id column to your tables (shared schema).
I usually find that developers use the following criteria when they evaluate these different approaches.
Isolation: Since you can put each tenant into its own database in one hand, and have tenants share the same table on the other, this becomes the most apparent dimension. If you provide your users raw SQL access or you're in a regulated industry such as healthcare, you may need strict guarantees from your database. That said, PostgreSQL 9.5 comes with row level security policies that makes this less of a concern for most applications.
Extensibility: If your tenants are sharing the same schema (approach #3), and your tenants have fields that varies between them, then you need to think about how to merge these fields.
This article on multi-tenant databases has a great summary of different approaches. For example, you can add a dozen columns, call them C1, C2, and so forth, and have your application infer the actual data in this column based on the tenant_id. PostgresQL 9.4 comes with JSONB support and natively allows you to use semi-structured fields to express variations between different tenants' data.
Scaling: Another criteria is how easily your database would scale-out. If you create a tenant per database or schema (#1 or #2 above), your application can make use of existing Ruby Gems or [Django packages][1] to simplify app integration. That said, you'll need to manually manage your tenants' data and the machines they live on. Similarly, you'll need to build your own sharding logic to propagate foreign key constraints and ALTER TABLE commands.
With approach #3, you can use existing open source scaling solutions, such as Citus. For example, this blog post describes how to easily shard a multi-tenant app with Postgres.
it's time for me to give back to the community :) So after 4 years, our multi-tenant platform is in production and I would like to share the following observations/experiences with all of you.
We used a database per each tenant. This has given us extreme flexibility as the size of the databases in the backups are not huge and hence we can easily import them into our staging environment for customers issues.
We use Liquibase for database development and upgrades. This has been a tremendous help to us, allowing us to package the entire build into a simple war file. All changes are easily versioned and managed very efficiently. There is a bit of learning curve here an there but nothing substantial. 2-5 days can significantly save you time.
Given that we use Spring/JPA/Hibernate, we use a technique called Dynamic Data Source Routing. So when a user logs-in, we find the related datasource with a lookup and connect them to the session to the right database. That's also when the Liquibase scripts get applied for updates.
This is, for now, I will come back with more later on.
Well, there are problems with one database for all tenants in our case for sure.
The backup file gets huge and becomes almost not practical hard to manage
For troubleshooting, we need to restore customer's data in our dev env, we just use that customer's backup file and usually the file is not as big as if we were to use one database for all customers.
Again, Liquibase has been key in allowing to manage updates across all the tenants seamlessly and without any issues. Without Liquibase, I can see lots of complications with this approach. So Liquibase, Liquibase and more Liquibase.
I also suspect that we would need a more powerful hardware to manage a huge database with large joins across millions of records vs much lighter database with much smaller queries.
In case of problems, the service doesn't go down for everyone and there will be limited to one or few tenants.
In general, for our purposes, this has been a great architectural decision and we are benefiting from it every day. One time we had one customer that didn't have their archiving active and their database size grew to over 3 GB. With offshore teams and slower internet as well as storage/bandwidth prices, one can see how things may become complicated very quickly.
Hope this helps someone.
--Rex
I want to partition a very large PostgreSQL 8.3 database. Quoting the manual,
Partitioning can provide several
benefits:
...
Seldom-used data can be
migrated to cheaper and slower storage
media.
What's the right way to relocate tables to another media or computer?
Adam
What you are talking about is commonly referred to as Replication or Clustering, depending on how the system is set up.
What you want to do specifically is clustering, and you can do it on PostgreSQL.
The wiki lists some of the existing solutions:
Greenplum Database (formerly Bizgres MPP), proprietary. Not so much a replication solution as a way to parallelize queries, and targeted at the data warehousing crowd. Similar to ExtenDB, but tightly integrated with PostgreSQL.
GridSQL for EnterpriseDB Advanced Server (formerly ExtenDB)
sequoia (jdbc, formerly known as c-jdbc)
PL/Proxy - database partitioning system implemented as PL language.
HadoopDB - A MapReduce layer put in front of a cluster of postgres back end servers. Shared-nothing clustering.