I am presently working on a client-server solution to transfer files to another machine via a socket network connection. I am fairly new to the whole client-server thing and therefore have the following - admittedly very basic - question:
For the file transfer, does it make any difference if I am sending the file from a client to a server or from a server to a client?
Any qualified insight into this will be much appreciated!
For the file transfer, does it make any difference if I am sending the file from a client to a server or from a server to a client?
Basically, no it does not matter. Once you have the connection made you are free to send data in both directions. Although you have to consider that a server won't accept data that is sent to it unless it explicitly reads from the socket.
To be a bit more general, server and client are completely arbitrary for a home brewed implementation of data transfer. If you boil this down to the simplest concept then you are just opening a socket and writing data to it on one side, and on the other side you are reading from a different socket.
You might choose to implement a single client program capable of connecting other clients (P2P) and sending files back and forth. In that case you could call the "server" the program that is currently sending the file, and the "client" is the program currently receiving.
Alternatively, you could implement two programs, one for client and one for server. Your server will listen for connections and the client will decide when it wants to connect to the server.
Remember that there are network limitations for connecting. If the program that is listening for connections is behind a firewall then you have to be sure you are forwarding the correct ports. If you are connecting machines within a LAN then you probably have nothing to worry about.
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I have a client and a server application that is communicating just fine, there is a TIdCmdTCPServer in the server and a TIdTCPClient in the client.
The client has to authenticate in the server, the client asks the server for the newest version information and downloads any updates, and other communications. All this communication with TIdTCPClient.SendCmd() and TIdTCPClient.LastCmdResult.Text.Text.
The way it is, the server receives commands and replies, the clients only receives replies, never commands, and I would like to implement a way to make the client receives commands. But as I heard, if the client uses SendCmd it should never be listening for data like ReadLn() as it would interfere with the reply expected in SendCmd.
I thought of making a command to check for commands, for example, the client would send a command like "IsThereCommandForMe" and the server would have a pool of commands to each client and when the client asks, the server send it in the reply, but I think it would not be a good approach as there would be a big delay between the commands being available and the client asking for it. I also thought of making a new connection with new components, for example a TIdCmdTcpClient, but then there would be 2 connections for each client, I don't like that idea as I think it could easily give problems in the communication.
The reason I want this, is that I want to implement a chat functionality in the client, and it should be receiving messages from the server without asking for it all the time, imagine all clients continually asking the server if there is message for them. And I would like to be able to inform the client when there is an update available instead the client being asking if there is any. And with this I could send more commands to the client too.
what are your thoughts about this ? how can I make the server receiving commands from the clients, but also sends them ?
TCP sockets are bidirectional by design. Once the connection between 'client' and 'server' has been established, they are symmetric and data can be sent at any time from any side over the same socket.
It only depends on the protocol (which is just written 'contract' for the communication) which communication model is used. HTTP for example uses a request/reply model. With Telnet for example, both sides can initate data transmissions. (If you take a look at the Indy implementation for Telnet, you will see that it uses a background thread to listen for server data, but it uses the same socket connection in the main thread to send data from client to server).
A "full duplex" protocol which supports both request/response and server push, and also is firewall-friendly, is WebSockets. With WebSockets (a HTTP upgrade), the server can send data to the connected client(s) any time. This would meet your 'chat' requirement.
If you use TIdTCPClient / TIdCmdTCPServer, corporate firewalls might block the communication.
The challenge: We have a number of clients in distributed outposts that I have to manage with a central server. As some clients are located in DMZ or behind proxies, they should be connecting to the server!
As I only have to deal with one client at a time, the server doesn't necessarily have to be able to handle multiple clients simultaniously, however, I would like to see a list of the clients that are trying to connect to the server. Plus, I would like to see more information about the clients than just the IP address, for example the geographic location and some information, if the client has some files in a specific directory that the central server is interested in. My question is, how I best do smth like that.
Sure, I could simply show every client trying to connect in a listbox and accept only the one that I want to connect with, but is that really the way to go? I doubt I can get more information about the client than it's IP address?
I was wondering, if this calls for UDP. The clients send UDP datagrams that just inform the server that they are alive and that they want to connect. On the server, I see all these clients listed with the data they sent. I can then select one client, send an answer/"connection request" with UDP so that this particular client will connect via TCP to the server?
Is that possible?
This sounds like using a hammer to crack a nut. Just have them all connect via TCP. Then you get their presence, their IP address, anything else they care to send you. Deal with them all at once. It's not hard.
I need to write a ftp program linking two, only two, computers, but this must be done using raw sockets on promiscuous mode. Since the socket will receive any data that come across the network device, my problem is how to address the correct program. For example: Imagine I have a server on a machine and two clients on the other. The server sends a message, how can the two clients know which of them will receive the message? Another problematic situation would be if I open a client and a server in the same machine, both may start to commune with each other.
I've been reading up on basic network programming, but am having a difficult time finding a straight-forward explanation for what exactly and socket is, and how it relates to either the OSI or TCP/IP stack.
Can someone explain to me what a socket is? Is it a programmer- or API-defined data structure, or is it a hardware device on a network card?
What layers of the mentioned network models deal with "raw" sockets? Transport layer? Network layer?
In terms of the data they pass between them, are socket text-based or binary?
Is there an alternative to sockets-based network programming? Or do all networked applications use some form of socket?
If I can get this much I should have a pretty clear understanding of everything else I'm reading. Thanks for any help!
Short answers:
Socket is an abstraction of an IP connection endpoint - so if you think of it as an API structure, you are not very far off. Please do read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_socket
Internet layer i.e. IP Protocol. In practice you usually use explicitly sockets that bind to a certain transport layer parameters (datagram/UDP or stream/TCP)
Sockets send data, in network byte order - whether it is text or binary, depends on the upper layer protocol.
Theoretically, probably yes - but in practice all IP traffic is done using 'sockets'
Socket is a software mechanism provided by the operating system. Like its name implies, you can think of it like an "electrical outlet" or some electrical connector, even though socket is not a physical device, but a software mechanism. In real world when you have two electrical connectors, you can connect them with a wire. In the same way in network programming you can create one socket on one computer and another socket on another computer and then connect those sockets. And when you write data to one of them, you receive it on the other one. There are also a few different kinds of sockets. For example if you are programming a server software, you want to have a listening socket which never sends or receives actual data but only listens for and accepts incoming connections and creates a new socket for each new connection.
A socket, in C parlance, is a data structure in kernel space, corresponding to one end-point of a UDP or TCP session (I am using session very loosely when talking about UDP). It's normally associated with one single port number on the local side and seldom more than one "well-known" number on either side of the session.
A "raw socket" is an end-point on, more or less, the physical transport. They're seldom used in applications programming, but sometimes used for various diagnostic things (traceroute, ping, possibly others) and may required elevated privileges to open.
Sockets are, in their nature, a binary octet-transport. It is not uncommon to treat sockets (TCP sockets, at least) as being text-based streams.
I have not yet seen a programming model that doesn't involve something like sockets, if you dig deep enough, but there have certainly been other models of doing networking. The "/net/" pseudo-filesystem, where opening "/net/127.0.0.0.1/tcp/80" (or "tcp/www") would give you a file handle where writes end up on a web server on localhost is but one.
Suppose your PC at home, and you have two browser windows open.
One looking at the facebook website, and the other at the Yahoo website.
The connection to facebook would be:
Your PC – IP1+port 30200 ——– facebook IP2 +port 80 (standard port)
The combination IP1+30200 = the socket on the client computer and IP2 + port 80 = destination socket on the facebook server.
The connection to Yahoo would be:
your PC – IP1+port 60401 ——–Yahoo IP3 +port 80 (standard port)
The combination IP1+60401 = the socket on the client computer andIP3 + port 80 = destination socket on the Yahoo server.
I apologize for the weird question wording... here's the design problem:
I am developing a server (on Linux using C++, FWIW) that provides a service to many instances of a client application running on consumer PCs.
I want the following:
1) All clients first identify themselves to a "gatekeeper" server application. Consider this a login procedure, with credentials like a user name and password being passed in. Call the gatekeeper program "gserver". (for gatekeeper.)
2) Once each client has been validated, it is then placed into a long term connection with one of several instances of a different server application running on the same physical server box bound to the same server address. Call any of these instances "wserver" (for "working" server.)
So, what the client sees is that a "gatekeeper" application gives it passworded access to one of several "working" servers running on the same box.
Here is the "real" challenge: we want to exclusively use a "well known" port number for the inbound server connections (like port 80 or 443, say.) Or, our own "well known" port.
We would prefer not to have to make the client talk to a second port on the server for the long term connection phase with wserver(n). The problem with this, of course, is that only one server process at a time can be bound to the same port and server address.
This implies that a connection made by the client with gserver must also fill the role of the long term connection. The only way I see to accomplish this is that gserver must, after login, act like a proxy and copy traffic between itself and the client to the particular wserver(n) that the client is bound to logically.
It would be ideal if a TCP/IP connection first made between client(n) and gserver could be somehow "transported" to another application on the same server, intact, and could then be sustained by one of the wserver(n) instances for the long term connection.
I know that web servers do something like this for spreading out server loads. "Load balancing". The main difference here is that the "balancing" is the allocation of a particular user to a particular wserver(n) instance. But I also have the impression that load balancing is a kind of proxying - which I am trying to avoid (since it complicates the architecture and adds overhead as well as a single point of failure.)
This is a conceptual and design question. Don't worry about source code examples, unless they are absolutely essential to get the ideas across. If we pin down an approach, I can code it up.
Thanks!
What you are looking for is file descriptor passing. See UNP 15.7. One well-known heavy user of this facility is postfix.
I developed such an application long time ago. Since multiple servers can't listen on the same port. What you need is to have gserver listening on the well-known port. Once connection is established, pass the connection to the other servers via an Unix socket. Once the connection is passed to other server, gserver is out of picture. It can die and the other server will be still serving the connection.
I dont' know if this applies to your design, but the usual solution (as implemmented by the xinetd daemon) is to fork() and then exec() the process. For example, xinetd may serve services like rlogin, rsh, tftp, telnet, etc. which are actually served by different programs. This will not be useful to you if your wservers are processes already running in the system.