I am using cygwin64 installed in C:/cygwin64, with eclipse and GTK2.0. Although include <gtk/gtk.h> is in the source, and C:/cygwin64/usr/include/gtk-2.0 is in the include path (I added it), many things in a gtk2 simple example are still not recognized, such as GtkWidget, gpointer, and GTK_WINDOW_TOPLEVEL. I got the whole of GTK2 via cygwin setup. I was and am reluctant to download all of GTK2 separately and install it on top of cygwin, since wouldn't it result in multiple locations for the same thing? How may I resolve it? Would separate download and installation not result in redundancy, and possible alternate or even conflicting aliases?
A secondary question: I am confused about the general library requirements. Cygwin is a package which runs on Windows, but offers a Linux/unix-like interface. This argues that the libraries should be .a and .so. But since it is Windows, I also see a lot of .dll within C:\cygwin64. Normally, I would expect that only cygwin proper would contain .dll files and all other code would be Linux code. Yet that seems not to be the case. Often, I see both .dll and .so libraries with the same base name. Which is it, dll, or .so and .a, etc?
A tertiary question relating to the one above involves the main gtk2 library. The projected usage is not developing these programs, but just using GTK2 in applications. The documentation says to use glib, but there are many. Some are glib2.so, others glib2, or cygglib2.0.0.dll. Which of these is appropriate? or some other library? How do I set the exclipse LIBRARY path? (Since I unexpectedly encountered the problem with gtk.h, I am trying to anticipate and head off the corresponding problem with the library implementing gtk2.)
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I have begun to use GTK(2), and I find that the workings of the library to be very good, but the documentation sucks.
I want to upgrade to GTK3, but it seems I need to install something called packman. That is a difficult philosophical step for me. Why can't I simply download a zip file(s) somewhere?
The documentation uses a lot of words without saying much, and the downloads want you to download stuff OTHER then gtk in order to get gtk. Why don't they simply have a GTK package and let me decide if I need all the other stuff.
Also, I have been reading on forums, even if I do the packman stuff, it still isn't enough for C::B.
Anyway, that is mostly a rant, what I'd really like is a suggestion to an alternative to GTK+.
Here are some of my requirements...
#1, It must NOT be an interpreter. Using Code::Blocks and C, I get an exe file and I'd like to continue that way.
#2 It must be programmable using C. I'd really like to stick wiith C::B, but I guess in a pinch I can use Eclipse (although that is another nightmare I won't get into here.)
#3 GTK requires a bunch of DLL's to be shipped along with the exe file. It would be ideal if the entire target could be included in the single exe without having to rely on external dll's or .net framework or other external stuff.
Any suggestions woule be apreaciated.
Thanks, Mark.
You best bet is to give a look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_widget_toolkits#High-level_widget_toolkits
If you wan to stick to C and not C++, then Qt is out.
The other that stands out is EFL. I've never used it myself, but it has good reputation and probably your best bet if you want to quit GTK+ and stick to C. However I don't know how easy it is to use it on Windows.
Now about GTK+:
Also, I have been reading on forums, even if I do the packman stuff, it still isn't enough for C::B.
There are people here that use GTK+ with Code::Blocks, so I don't get what kind of problem you're referring to.
Then your other problems:
The documentation uses a lot of words without saying much
Examples?
the downloads want you to download stuff OTHER then gtk in order to get gtk
What you don't get is that GTK+ is more that just the libgtk library. It has dependencies on a lot of other libraries, like glib, cairo, pango, etc. In the past there used to be a bundle or installer to have that installed on Windows, but people would mess up on setting the environment up based on their needs and give up. As the GTK+ manpower for the Windows platform is limited, the GTK+ team delegated the distribution of the GTK+ binaries to the MSYS2 project.
MSYS2 is a popular project that provides a lot of open source software already built for Windows, and solves the problem of building and installing dependencies by hand for the user. This step is made to make installation simpler, not harder. In a handful of commands you have GTK+ and all its dependencies installed for your platform, and can start coding your app. Another command and you have python and the python GTK+ bindings installed and can get started. Want to depend on another popular library? Chances are MSYS already provides it.
Windows has been known for decades to be bad on dependency management. If package management wasn't a a pain point on Windows, then stuff like chocolatey or conan wouldn't exist.
Your philosophical reluctance is merely that: philosophical. Sure GTK+ on Windows isn't perfect. With MSYS2 you will get packages built with gcc so the debug symbols are not compatible with the Visual Studio debugger and you will need to use gdb instead. But on your other question you say you use gcc and loathe Visual Studio, so this should not be a blocker to you.
GTK requires a bunch of DLL's to be shipped along with the exe file. It would be ideal if the entire target could be included in the single exe without having to rely on external dll's or .net framework or other external stuff.
This is not possible for the moment as static compilation of GTK+ isn't supported. The redistribution of an app, however, isn't as easy as I'd like it to be. The best way on Windows to redistribute your app while using MSYS2 is to create a pacman package for your app, listing its dependencies, then call pacman to install your app on an empty directory and tell it to install all your dependencies there too. The result will be a directory that you can redistribute, with a self-contained installation of your app and all its dependencies, GTK+ included.
I have installed a perl module, say XYZ then a folder is created that contains many .pm files. I copied the folder and put it in any other system where XYZ is not installed. So, I'm able to use methods of XYZ module in both system. I mean, I'm unable to find out the difference between these method, but I think there must be some. What I know is, when we install a perl module then dependencies also gets installed. Am I right? Can anyone mention other difference between two, if any?
A few off the top of my head:
In case of an XS module, the code is compiled for the local platform.
Installing a module via cpan usually runs the test suite so if there is any other reason beyond dependencies why it wouldn't work, you're told so (I guess that's very rare though)
Regular installation automatically goes to a directory where your perl can find modules.
Of course you can take care of all these yourself. These days chances are pretty good you're running either Linux or Windows on something x86-ish and as long as you only copy Linux to Linux and Windows to Windows, and to the same place as on the source system, you'll be fine. Basically that's what binary Linux distributions and ActivePerl packages do, too, and it may make sense e.g. if you want to avoid installing a whole bunch of compile-time dependencies on all target systems. Just make sure you don't get yourself into a mess by writing to system directories (e.g. /usr/share/perl5) that are supposed to be managed by your system's package manager.
We are getting ready to deploy a Tcl application, but i'm having trouble figuring out how to do it. Currently, I'm experimenting with tclkit and sdx.kit. I can pack a single tcl file and run it, but the structure of the whole application contains folders and images and c files that work together with tcl. i have two folders and inside a bunch of c files and tcl files and other stuff. How would i go and wrap the whole thing. What tool do you guys recommend other than tclkit and why?
The main way that you're recommended to distribute applications is as a tclkit. There are a few alternatives (e.g., TOBE, ActiveState's commercial tooling) but they're pretty similar as they all build on top of Tcl's virtual filesystem layer. (NB. This isn't the same as the Linux VFS stuff; this is a VFS in a single application.) Indeed, the ActiveState tooling actually is a rebadged tclkit (plus some other stuff like code obfuscation). I believe that TOBE uses ZIP archives instead of metakit databases.
The advantage of using a VFS-based solution is that it means that lots of things work inside, particularly including both source (for getting another .tcl file in) and load (for getting a binary library). In fact, you can put your application, the packages it depends on, and the resources (images, etc.) inside the VFS and be fairly sure that things will work. About the only things that we know run into real problems are where you want to exec something in the archive (the VFS mount is process-local; you have to copy the subsidiary file out if you want it to be seen in subprocesses) and if you're wanting to load certificates of private keys with the tls package (because the underlying OpenSSL library doesn't delegate to Tcl to handle that part of its I/O for some reason, AIUI).
When you're building these things, effectively you make a directory (and its subdirectories) that have everything laid out right. Then you run the packager (sdx for tclkits) and it builds the overall application for you. Attach the result to a runtime (the standard tclkit) and you're ready to test and deploy.
We don't generally do tool recommendations here on Stack Overflow, but the ActiveState Tcl Dev Kit is actually rather widely used. Many other people use sdx/tclkit. TOBE is quite a lot rarer. (There are other packaging techniques, but I wouldn't recommend them these days; a packaged VFS works very well indeed.)
I am trying to connect Matlab and OpenCV following this tutorial: http://xanthippi.ceid.upatras.gr/people/evangelidis/matlab_opencv/
Since I work on a Linux system I can't follow the instructions for the mexopts.bat file since the Linux equivalent (mexopts.sh) seems to be rather different and i find none of the options mentioned in the tutorial in the mexopts.sh file.
So I try to set the options in Matlab.
I downloaded the most recent OpenCV Version (2.4.8) and compiled it according to the instructions on their site (http://docs.opencv.org/2.4/doc/tutorials/introduction/linux_install/linux_install.html without the make install).
The structure of the OpenCV directory seems to be a problem, since there are multiple include directories and I was unsure which to specify.
[edit]:
there was a lot of pointless code here which has all been made superfluous as #Peter made me aware that I simply misunderstood how make/make install worked.
"Without the make install" is the problem. The include files and built libraries are scattered all over the source tree, as determined by the build system. make install collects all the headers that are appropriate for use by users of the library and puts them in one directory for including. It does the same with the libraries themselves. make install may also "strip" the libraries, which drastically reduces the size and improves the load time.
If you don't want the installation in a system directory, you can set the install path to be somewhere in your home directory.
I had developed a small program in netbeans using c++. I need to know how can i deploy/run the package on another linux system
Abdul Khaliq
I have seen your code, you probably missing XML files in the current folder... where the executable is located... paste then and then run as ./your-executable
I recommend that you use a makefile to recompile on your target machine which will ensure that your program is deployed properly.
You should use a makefile as suggested. I know that NetBeans can generate one, but it's been a while since I last did so. Maybe this can help: http://forums.netbeans.org/topic3071.html
Typically, once compiled, your executable will need several libraries. Chance is that those libraries will also be available on the target linux system.
Thus, you can simply copy your executable over to the other system. If you run ldd on your executable, you should see the list of libraries your executable is dynamically loading. Those libraries should be available on the target system as well.
In case your executable makes use of resources such as images and other binary files, you can use a resource system (e.g. Qt Resource System) and compile those binary files into your executable.
The easiest way to test is to do the copy, run
ldd yourExecutable
on the target system. It will tell you if you are missing any library. Install those libraries using the system package manager.
Of course, you also have the option to statically build all libraries into your executable. However, this is not recommended since it makes the executable too large and complicates matters.
What type of package is your netbeans compiler creating? deb,rpm? If you are moving the package to a different linux install you will need to use that distributions package type. Ubuntu - deb
Fedora/Redhat - rpm
etc...
I'm not sure how you change this in netbeans but I'm pretty sure it has the ability to. A google search could help you more.