I am trying to do some embedded programming for an online course. The IDE I had to use does not have a Linux version, so I am planning to use the ARM DS-5. It says it can be used with eclipse but I cannot figure out how to get them to work. I have Ubuntu 14.04. I read somewhere that the ARM-DS-5 wouldn't work with anything newer than indigo but that was from 2012 and am not sure how accurate that is now. Any help would be great.
Depending on the use-case, you can pick one the three DS-5 variants.
Community Edition
Free to use.
Allows Linux library/app debug using GNU tools.
Comes in two flavors - Eclipse Plugin and Full Fledged IDE.
Professional Edition
30 days free evaluation.
Allows bare-metal (no OS) and Linux kernel and app debug.
Comes with ARM compiler, debugger along with GNU tools.
Comes with FVP, ARM's virtual hardware, allowing development without real hardware.
Ultimate edition
Everything in the Professional edition plus support for ARMv8, the ARM's architecture with 64-bit support.
You can visit here to see more detailed difference between various editions.
Note there is only one DS-5 IDE installer, which is available for download here. The variant is decided based on type of license chosen. So if you download DS-5 Ultimate for 30-day eval, it can converted to Community edition by changing the license at the end of eval period.
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I am currently evaluating List & Label. The edition comparison seems to indicate that the Standard edition cannot be used by 64-bit programs, and I also got that confirmed by the company making the product. However, what I need to know is the following.
I plan to use List & Label in a Visual Studio solution with projects compiled for AnyCPU with "Prefer 32-bit" set.
Is there anybody out there that runs the licensed Standard edition with AnyCPU and "Prefer 32-bit" set on a 64-bit machine? It would be nice to know for certain whether it works or not.
Yes, this will work. See What AnyCPU Really Means As Of .NET 4.5 and Visual Studio 11 to confirm this will start a 32 bit process on all platforms supported by List & Label:
If the process runs on a 32-bit Windows system, it runs as a 32-bit process. IL is compiled to x86 machine code.
If the process runs on a 64-bit Windows system, it runs as a 32-bit process. IL is compiled to x86 machine code.
I am thinking of installing Eclipse for developing STM32 programs (I have a question about this that I will post later). In the instructions it says I have to install:
the IDE for C/C++
GNU ARM Eclipse Plug-ins
GNU GCC ARM tool-chain
among other tools..
However, I am also thinking of installing e2studio for developing Renesas programs. You can see about this Here. There you can see that this is "based on Eclipse CDT" (what is the difference between this CDT and the IDE?) and that it also uses Plug-ins like GNU Tool & Support Here.
My question is, is this possible? Do I have to install them separately? (I guess so). Will the GNU tools will also be installed twice??
(I am using a windows10 machine)
Thanks in advance
CDT is dedicated to C/C++ programming. Actually I personally prefere to have separate eclipse installations for different families of uC. Why? Because it is much easier to manage updates and to keep my work in the correct order.
For STM32 I advice (I think, you are a novice user of Eclipse & ARM toolchains) to install OpenSTM32 (yo have a straightforward installer). It imports projects from CUBEFX & MX which gives you an easy way to import examples & initialisation code from Cube. I personally do not use HAL libraries but as I know I am a minority.
However, I am also thinking of installing e2studio for developing
Renesas programs. You can see about this Here. There you can see that
this is "based on Eclipse CDT" (what is the difference between this
CDT and the IDE?)
Eclipse CDT is an open-source general-purpose C and C++ IDE.
e2studio is one of several software packages that extend CDT with (most likely proprietary) plugins geared towards a more specific market (in this case, Renesas programs).
My question is, is this possible?
Yes.
Do I have to install them separately? (I guess so).
Yes.
Will the GNU tools will also be installed twice?? (I am using a windows10 machine)
You can certainly share a single installation of a toolchain between two installations of CDT, if both of them need the same toolchain (in terms of version and architecture). I don't know enough about STM32 and Renesas to tell you if they use the same toolchain.
I am able to install DS-5 on an OS (for example Windows 10) that is not officially supported. What is the behavior of DS-5 on such an OS? Will it work partially, for example?
DS-5 is a suite of tools, including Eclipse IDE, compilers (ARM compiler 5, ARM compiler 6, gcc), DS-5 debugger, Streamline performance analysis tool.
Though an OS may not be listed as supported, individual tools may be supported. A good example is Mac OS, where Streamline and Eclipse IDE are supported while other tools are not.
The best way to find out if a tool would work is to check the DS-5 System requirements page
Can you use the CMSIS, HAL, TM libraries for STM32F407 discovery board with eclipse, without STM32Cube? According to this link http://www.carminenoviello.com/en/2015/06/04/stm32-applications-eclipse-gcc-stcube/ you can do it with eclipse & STM32Cube. But I wonder if you can do just same thing without the STM32Cube. Since I'm using OS X, it is impossible to install the STM32Cube, but in order to use the GPIO library I need to use CMSIS, HAL, TM libraries.
You might be able to used the older "Standard Peripheral Driver" model - which was a just a distributed set of driver files specific to the chip. These libraries are no longer supported and are replaced by STM32Cube which generates equivalent code - but with better support for hardware abstraction however they are still very useable.
Search "STM32F4xx_StdPeriph_Driver" to locate the libraries (which include the standard peripheral drivers and CMSIS).
You can download the libraries as a separate zip file
http://www.st.com/web/en/catalog/tools/PF259243
just unpack it and import whatever you need from it into your project. You can take an example project which is closest to your needs, and start developing your application from that. That's what I did in Linux.
There is the STM32CubeMX, which is the installable program you're referring to, and there are STM32CubeF4, STM32CubeL0, etc, which are the firmware package for the different controller families.
CubeMX now officially supports Mac and Linux. However here is an old post how to run it manually http://www.carminenoviello.com/2015/09/09/running-stm32cubemx-macos-finally/.
Regarding the HAL and SPL I'll add that there are really nice libraries in libopencm3 which are developed by community and are not so "buggy" as HAL or SPL.
I found an interesting instruction. You can install the STM32CubeMX on OS X. http://www.stm32duino.com/viewtopic.php?t=267
There is an Eclipse based IDE by OpenSTM32 community called SW4STM32. Available at OpenSTM32 community's site. System Workbench for STM32 installer has been released on the following platforms:
Microsoft Windows Vista and newer (32 bits or 64 bits)
Linux (32 bits or 64 bits)
Mac OSX 10.10 Yosemite and newer + Xcode 7
Java SE JRE 7 or newer
When creating a project you can choose which library you want want to use, SPL, HAL or baremetal.
STM32CubeMX is a initialization code generator. It definitely eases development, but you can write you code completely from the beginning.
STM32CubeMX uses HAL as its Library. You can download the HAL and Include the files that you need and write down the code from scratch. You just need to be aware of the APIs, which are documented in UM1725 Application Note.
But, now STM32CubeMX is also available for Linux and Mac.
There is two options - SunStudio or gcc toolchain. What is the common practice to adhere when developing a driver -- make sure it builds with both compilers for 32-bit and 64-bit modes, or pick one compiler and stick to it?
Thanks.
There is no point building a 32 bit driver when you target Solaris 11.2 as this kernel is only released as 64 bit.
Both Solaris Studio and gcc can be used. The former is likely more popular for everything kernel related and you'll probably find more documentation about using it than gcc.
Until you can find someone who has used recent versions of the entire suite of tools available under both GCC with all its add-ons and Oracle's Studio toolset, you're not going to get a good answer. I'll say that I've yet to see an open-source tool that is as good as Oracle's Studio collect/analyzer tools at performance analysis of multithreaded large-scale applications, especially on Solaris. Most people who blindly post "GCC is better!" don't know the Oracle tools even exist.
Regarding device drivers, jlliagre's comment is quite relevant - it's quite possible to run into situations where a "native" compiler will work where a "foreign" one won't.
(Posting as an answer for emphasis)