I am planning to make some microcontroller boards which would do miscellaneous tasks. For example measuring analog voltages or controlling other instruments. Each board needs to be controlled/downloaded it's data from one place. For that purpose I would use an ethernet interface and do the comnunication over that. So my question is: which would be the most suitable method of achieving that. My ideas are: run a webserver on each module and communicate with POST/GET, or run a telnet server on boards and communicate with a telnet client. The security and speed/latency is not an concern but the data integrity is.
I don't need a html based gui for modules because I will implement an application which will communicate wizh the modules periodically, gets the data from them and stores in a database. And the database is what I will use later, for examining the data for example.
An other example:
I have a board which measures measures temperature. There is a server on the board itself run by the mcu. It is connected to a router via the ENC chip. I have my pc also connected to that router. I have an application which connects to the server run by the Atmega328 and collects the data then stores to a database. It repeats this let's say in every hour. I would use an Atmega328 and an ENC28J60 ethernet interface chip. What do you recommend?
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I'm trying to establish Modbus RTU connection (for learning purposes) between two PC's (Win10). I'm using two USB to RS485 converters (D- connected together and D+ also connected together). This converters are connected to USB2.0 ports.
USB to RS485 converter
So I'm using "Modbus Poll" and "Modbus Slave" from "modbus tools".
First computer act as slave and has the following settings:
Slave configuration
Slave definition
Second computer act as master and has following settings:
Master configuration
Master definition
And my problem is, everytime i get "Timeout error":
Timeout error
So, what I'm doing wrong? I'm pretty sure converters are not damaged, because Win10 detecs them.
After all I just want to send simple value to another computer (via Modbus RTU) :)
Thanks
Well, this is not a real answer but I can provide some debugging suggestions.
In the past, I had problems with that RS-485 hardware you're using. It didn't work and I'm not sure why. The one I have uses a strange logic to drive DE pin of the MAX485. If I remember correctly, it inverts the TX line coming from CH340G using a NAND gate and feeds it to DE pin. I'm not sure if it was the problem, but I don't think it's a good design.
You may need pull-up and pull-down resistors on RS-485 lines to prevent it from floating when no driver is driving the bus. Some converters include them internally. Also, you may need 120 ohm termination resistors on both ends.
Instead of working with RS-485, you can simply use TTL logic for testing purposes. Use two USB-TTL converters, connect TX to RX (cross connection).
When debugging communication buses (USART, SPI, I2C etc.) always use logic analyzers. Even the cheapest one saves hours of debugging time.
you need to install proper drivers. I used following link which includes a how to video as well as download link for the drivers . Also disable RTS as its 2 wire RS485 so RTS cant be used.
I am working on a legacy modbus program for an industrial SCADA system.
Currently, the c++ program acts as both a modbus TCP server and client.
Client behaviour:
It reads from a number of vendor PLCs (servers) on site, performs calculations and sends control commands back to the PLCs based on the data received across the site.
Server behaviour:
responds to a variety of TCP read and write requests from web interfaces and laptops on site.
Until now, this has worked fine, but we have recently installed a logging client on the network which polls our program very frequently (sub-second) and this has revealed timing issues: the program can potentially take a very long time in its client loop performing calculations and reading PLC values before acting as a server and responding to incoming requests.
Easy solution would be to split the programs into a modbus server and client instance, and keep them both running on the same embedded PC.
The issue I have is that the remote web interface (HMI) must be able to control the behaviour of vendor PLC 2 and Vendor PLC 2 will only allow one TCP connection from the embedded PC. In the past the program has handled writes requests from the HMI by forwarding them on to the PLC 2 via the open socket.
I'd be keen to gather thoughts on best practices here.
My thinking:
the modbus server program will need to respond to the HMI requests and somehow store the information required for vendor PLC 2, and it will also need to set a status register to inform the modbus client that there is data for vendor PLC 2.
The modbus client program will need to read the status register (and data) from the server and pass this on to vendor PLC 2.
Am I heading in the right direction?
Without having details on your implementation I can only guess the problem is that your program is single-threaded, and delays are caused by waiting responses from PLCs.
So, if my assumption is correct, you need to switch to 'select' function and redesign your software to be totally async. You have to put all sockets (both connected and accepted) in a FDs set and wait events on them.
win32:
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/desktop/api/winsock2/nf-winsock2-select
linux:
https://www.opennet.ru/cgi-bin/opennet/man.cgi?topic=select&category=2
I've written the same app ages ago on win32 (but without calculations) and it easily processed about 200 PLCs, working on the same machine with SCADA.
as I mentioned above,
does Arduino Uno capable of running application that is taking input from sensors around 6 sensors and sending that input to a remote database through out internet by using either (Wi-Fi shield, ethernet shield)?
I am asking such a question because I am going to use it in the next semester of academic year as a part of my final year project, but I am worried that it's RAM size is not enough since it is 2KB and I need to decide either using Arduino Uno or switch to Raspberry Pi.
It should be possible, altough you may have a hard time searching for a suitable driver for your database. If using MySQL, there is already a project to do exactly what you want.
Another (more flexible) approach is to write a small PC software to receive sensor data in a simple protocol you define, and write them to the database. Run it on the database machine (or any other machine, really), and then make the Arduino communicate with your proxy software instead.
How can I interact with a PLC to send and receive data to/from a remote server(PC).
For example a robot that have a PLC and want to interact with a server that placed at near room with a wireless communication.
Data must move all over the time. PLC sending the data to the server and server must sending back the result of computation on the data to PLC.
review : My PLC brand is Delta but its model has not been selected yet .
A common scenario is that the manufacturer provides an OPC server for the PLC. You should check their website once you know the model. Then it is just a matter for you to create an OPC client.
A good way to start is to get a free OPC server simulator like the one from Matrikon. It doesn't need any hardware. OPC is a standard interface (although there are often some minor variations between manufacturers) - if you can get your client to work with the test server you can probably get it to work with the PLC.
I am using STM32F205RGT6 Cortex-M3 microcontroller and coding with IAR Embedded Workbench.
I plan to keep the microcontroller in a power saving mode most of the time except when an external component tries to either communicate via SPI (the STM32 microcontroller is meant to be a SP slave) or via USB.
One external compinent is connected via SPI (PB12-15) and PC is connected via USB (PA11-12).
The communication works fine - I have tested both the SPI as well as USB.
I figured that once I am done setting up SPI and USB I will call a power saving function and add the same function call at the end of interrupt service routines. I have found PWR_EnterSTANDBYMode and PWR_EnterSTOPMode (in stm32f2xx_pwr.h) both of which I tried using.
However with such arrangement I cannot establish any communication (SPI or USB) with the microcontroller.
Is there something extra that needs to be configured (for example which pins should wake the microcontroller up)?
Am I using wrong function? Or wrong header file?
Can you point me to an example resembling such case (I could not find anything similar on ST's website)?
Any constructive feedback would be welcome.
In the mean time I found the application note AN3430 (http://www.st.com/internet/com/TECHNICAL_RESOURCES/TECHNICAL_LITERATURE/APPLICATION_NOTE/DM00033348.pdf) which is somehow more digestible (only 38 pages) which gives an excellent overview on power saving in the microcontroller.
Since I don't have access to PA0-WKUP (the wake-up pin) I had to discard using stand-by. Seems that just a simple sleep mode in main loop - by calling __WMI(); - should lower current consumption enough in my case. I might consider stop mode if sleep mode isn't enough but I will have read fragments of datasheet on configuration of EXTI registers that the application notepoints to.