I know about PayPal Chained Payments. They involve a primary (the goods seller) and secondary (the store) receipt and the primary one have full control over refunds and so on.
I want to have a way to process credit cards, without the buyer to have an PayPal account. I wonder if there is some mechanism to have a primary and secondary receipt in this case. How to handle fee receiving in this case?
I was stuck with the same sort of issue.
My research concluded that this cannot be done, with the current adaptive payments APIs.
So there are two solutions
1) Wait till the rest api team adds spilt payments to the rest APIs. You can follow development of this feature # https://github.com/paypal/PayPal-iOS-SDK/issues/9
2) Pay into one account (A nominee account look it up) and use mass payments to pay out to other accounts
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We're planning a web app that allows users to pay our clients directly through Paypal so there will be many different users and each will be paying a specific client through the website and there will be multiple clients.
These payments may be one-off payments but a few may be recurring.
We won't be charging a transaction fee for this so we basically want the whole payment amount to be deposited in the client's Paypal account (so they pay their own Paypal fees). I've looked at chained payments to be able to take a payment for a client but I'm just wondering what the actual flow of money is in a chained payment.
When a chained payment is made does Paypal deposit the payment go into our Paypal account first and then be paid into the client's account or does the client portion (in this case 100%) go directly into the client's account?
I'm asking as we're not sure how it would affect us in terms of accounting in our business if all the payment money was actually passing through our Paypal account (even if only briefly).
Or is a chained payment not the ideal solution for this?
Thanks,
Steve
If you are not taking a cut of the money, then I believe either Simple or Parallel payments would be a better solution. If you are going to be processing payments for a single buyer to a single merchant, then you can just use Simple Payments. If you are going to be processing payments for a single buyer to multiple merchants then you'd want to use Parallel Payments. More information on each of those APIs can be found here.
I have an educational website that uses 'Stripe Connect' to accept payments from students, and split the payments between myself (the platform provider) and the teachers (content-creators).
Payments to teachers are currently handled through Stripe. Whenever a student purchases content, the teacher automatically receives the payment directly into their Stripe account. I retain a portion of the transaction directly into my Stripe account. It's an easy system and works nicely.
The problem is that students want to pay with PayPal.
So, I would like to add PayPal as a payment option for students, without forcing content-creators to connect two separate accounts--one for when viewers pay with PayPal, and another for when viewers pay with Stripe. The only idea I have so far, is to deposit all PayPal payments to one PayPal account, then manually "payout" teachers into their Stripe accounts every week.
But is there an automated way to do this? Stripe says they don't accept payments from PayPal.
Any ideas/help would be appreciated. Thanks!
Adaptive payments does support chained payments, as Andrew says in his answer; it would work very much like what you describe having set up with Stripe.
However, this will not meet your requirements of having both PayPal and Stripe payments arrive in a single teacher account. Unfortunately, Stripe & PayPal see each other as competitors and to my knowledge neither one has built a tidy product to consolidate "their" payments into the other company's account.
If you are willing to move away from Stripe, PayPal does provide many solutions that consolidate "raw" credit card payments and PayPal account payments into a single receiver account, including through Adaptive Payments as cited by Andrew.
I would add that Braintree, having been purchased by PayPal, provides perhaps the most Stripe-like integration for a product that would accomplish this goal. However, I do not believe that the Braintree SDK will do the chained payments for you; you might have to do some work to make that happen on your end (take the first payment, then calculate and make payouts either weekly as you mentioned or per-incoming-transaction).
A couple other things to think about: if you split some payments into delayed fulfillment but others are chained inside one payments provider you will need to support two very different flows; you may find it easier (for both you and your content providers) to select one model and run everything through that model.
Also, instead of payments going to you & then chained to the content providers you could have payments to go directly to the content providers and then trigger billing (either invoicing or automatically collected via recurring payments) from the content providers to you for your cut.
The best pattern depends largely upon how you want the legal & financial responsibilities to lie: are you providing the good or service and people are paying you for it, making you like a retail store or distributor for producers? Or are content providers providing the good or service being paid for to the students, and you are like a marketplace/facilitator/advertising venue? This question becomes significant as soon as someone is unsatisfied with something they have bought :).
You can use the Adaptive Payments platform with PayPal to split payments just like you're doing with Stripe. Specifically, you'd use the Pay API setup as a chained payment with a secondary receiver.
If you happen to be working with PHP my class library for PayPal will make all of the API calls very simple for you.
A proposed scenario is, assume the shopping cart site, where buyer has to pay for a product. The sold product costs will be transferred to the respective merchant. Here, the website owner has to be paid(commission) for the purchased product.
Is it possible in Paypal? Right now, I am using Paypal checkout. Your ideas/suggestions would be helpful. Please do it.
There are a number of ways you could set this up.
You could use the Adaptive Payments platform, specifically the Pay API, to create parallel or chained payments so that multiple receivers can receive money within the same transaction.
You can also do a parallel payment with Express Checkout, but you can't do a chained payment.
The main difference is that with parallel payments the buyer will see the split during checkout. With a chained payment you can hide that so they only see the primary receiver. Also, chained payments can be delayed so you can trigger the commission to be paid at a later time if necessary (for example, waiting for services to be completed.)
Another way you could do this is to use Payments Standard, Express Checkout, or Payments Pro, and let the payment go entirely to a single account. Then setup a Pay API request to submit payment to the secondary receiver, or use the MassPay API. This could be setup within an IPN solution so the entire thing is automated. In this case you'd basically be building what the adaptive payments platform does for you, but it would give you a little bit more freedom over everything in the application.
I am using PayPal PreApproved payments for my crowd funding website, where project backers are only charged if the project is successfully backed.
I am worried that high rate of payments will fail when the PayPal API tries to collect the funds when a project is successful:
a backer might not have any funds in their PayPal account
a backer might close their account once the project is successful (to intentionally stop payment)
a backer might remove/cancel their preapproved payment
etc...
There are a number of ways that the payment could fail which would mean that the project owner would not get their funds.
Can anyone suggest a way of tightening or securing payments. Please note, that PayPal will only allow you to use PreApproved payments for crowdfunding. Please also note that project owners need to be able to receive the funds from my site. Sometimes, these funds can be as small as $10 or up to $10,000 so we need to use PayPal to pay them as there is not other method of getting the funds to the project owner
I've implemented Paypal Adaptive payments and used them for payments at http://www.wethetrees.com and we had the exact problems you are describing. The capture rate is almost random, we were down to 35% with one campaign and had to manually send all backers invoices.
When capturing we had backers with closed/unauthorized accounts, insufficient funds, unavailable payment methods etc. We switched to just doing direct capture for a while, which is great since we get 100% of all pledges, but Paypal closed our account without notice when one of our campaigns mentioned the word "Cuba".
The solution in the end was to scrap Paypal so now we're using Wepay and Dwolla, and we're considering Bitpay (Bitcoin) as well. Seems to like Paypal wants to kill crowdfunding or doesn't understand it. Anything less than a 90% capture rate is totally unacceptable and will cause projects to fail.
Preapproval isn't the only thing they'll allow you to use. That's just one part of the Adaptive Payments API, but you could go with a delayed chained payment, too.
This way your account can be treated sort of like an Escrow. You can use the Pay API to create payments in the system that are split between receivers accordingly. Only the primary receiver would get paid at first, though, and then you can call ExecutePayment to submit the secondary payments from the primary account within 90 days.
This way the primary account holds all of the funds so they're available to pay out when the goal is reached. If the goal is not reached the payments could be refunded.
I have a Paypal Standard gateway set up which pays the business account specified in the input no problem. I would like to make it so that at the same time, the customer is also paying a fee to the website - so they're paying our Paypal account a fee.
E.g. User buys a product (clicks Buy Now)
Goes to Paypal screen, and when the customer confirms the payment it will send the following money:
£10 - to the sellers account
£1.50 - to our account (fee)
I've heard a few methods such as Chain payments, Parallel payments and x.com says Adaptive payments, but I've not been able to understand the best method for doing this with a Paypal Standard integration.
Can someone point me in the right direction with this? Thanks in advance!
Adaptive Payments is a general term for the API's that handle this sort of thing. Chained Payments and Parallel Payments are under that same umbrella, so to speak.
Both chained and parallel payments will split your payment between multiple accounts like you're after. The primary difference is that the payer will see the split during checkout with a parallel payment, but you can hide that with a chained payment. You can also delay the secondary payment(s) using a chained setup.
If you happen to be working with PHP I'd recommend using my PHP class library for PayPal, which will make all of this very simple for you. I even offer 30 min of free training if you need help getting started, which is generally plenty of time to get you going if you understand how to work with array data.