How do I determine the identity provider (IdP) of a web application? I have been assigned to manage an LMS web application (I have basic admin privileges) that I am unfamiliar with and they would like to integrate SSO using SAML. I figure this is a noob question but I cannot find guidance on the topic anywhere.
I tried checking other threats on stackoverflow but I don't think any were this basic. I also tried going through the authorization settings of the LMS site but did not see anything helpful. Our site does have a sign in with google option (not sure if that shed's any light)
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If the LMS supports SAML out of the box, consult LMS docs on how to configure SAML on LMS side. The LMS will likely be a service provider. The identity provider will be an entity external to LMS. You will need to talk to admins of the identity provider so they can supply you with information about the identity provider. This information is known as SAML metadata; it is often provided in XML format. You will need to enter this information in config screens on LMS side. Sometimes the identity provider and/or the service provider will have instructions that show specific configuration steps for getting the other party to work with them; this might be your best bet for "out of the box" setup.
If the LMS doesn't support SAML, then all bets are off.
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Currently my organization uses a number of web apps/mobile apps/APIs, some of which authenticate against an in-house IdP and others which use a third-party proprietary system (over which we have no control).
We have been asked to implement SSO for these web applications and as a result I have been reading up on OpenID Connect. I believe this would be a better solution than SAML given that (a) end-users are not always enterprise users, and (b) SAML not designed for mobile applications.
I believe I understand the flow reasonably well but have one sticking point. To allow users to authenticate using an external IdP, we would need to map the user back to our internal id. For example, user authenticates using OIDC/Google, resulting in us receiving the user's unique Google idenitifer (and email etc if we queried further), but this is not useful to us until we can map the Google identifier back to our internal customer id.
Is this mapping out of scope for OIDC? If so, is there a best-practice method for doing this? I'm sure we are not alone in this requirement...
Thanks,
John
Is this mapping out of scope for OIDC?
Short answer, yes.! If your backend require a comparison/validation with internal identity details, then it has to be done out-of-scope of OpenID Connect(OIDC) protocol. OIDC simply define the process of obtaining tokens (ID and access token), which are required for authentication and authorization.
is there a best-practice method for doing this?
One option is to use out of band directory synchronization. For example, Google provider Google Cloud Directory Sync (GCDS), which allows you to synchronize identity details to LDAP or MS Active directory. Other alternative is to use SCIM protocol to communicate and provision users dynamically. For example Google provide that support as well.
Alternatively, you can use just-in-time provision at the time you receive tokens. This support will depend on your identity provider implementation. For example, WSO2 identity server support both JIT provisioning as well as SCIM.
I need some guidance on my SSO implementation. We have a web application where we are authenticating the user through applications Database. We check user details in USER table and match password. If everything looks good we create PHP session and allow user to Login. One of our partners is requested for SSO integration, they want us to behave like Identity Provider (their application will be Service Provider). I have no idea from where should I start. Few initial guiding points will be a great help.
Thank you!
First question is what protocol they want to use:
SAML 2.0, WS-Federation or OpenID Connect / OAuth?
What platforms do you use? - Windows , Linux? Microsoft shop?
Do you want to pay for a commercial product or use open source?
What repository do you want to authenticate against? You mention a DB. Is this SQL Server, MySQL or what? Not all products authenticate against all repositories.
If e.g. the answer is SAML 2.0 and open source, look at shibboleth or simpleSAMLphp.
identityserver would be another possibility.
If the answer is WS-Fed, Microsoft commercial, look at ADFS.
I am implementing Single Sign On through SAML. For this, I need an IDP (Identity Provider) which can be installed on-premise. Can you provide me the list of IDP's available and their licence Cost and supported platform? I searched and found like Gluu, Shibboleth but not finding the exact. Please help me out.
Thanks in Advance.
Refer SAML-based products and services.
I have used shibboleth and simpleSAMLphp - both open source - both work.
If you want to pay, then Ping Federate, ADFS, OpenAM and Auth0 are all good options.
I do not want to share our user identity with anyone else. We are using Progress Open Edge Database to store user id and password and authenticate from there.
Is there any way that we install IDP on-premise where our user identities should not be shared in cloud rather it is in our network?
I am using OneLogin but it allows to share user id with themseleves but i do not want to share user id with any IDP, instead it should be on my network, that is why i am lokking for an IDP which can be installed on-premise.
A little old post but maybe someone else looking for an answer can benefit. There are many Identity Providers available out there. It depends on your use case which one you should go with and if you need an open source or if you want full support for it.
If your use case requires you to support all the IAM features with easy to configure UI then Keycloak and miniOrange are the ones I would recommend. Keycloak is open source and miniOrange charges for support if you need it. There are others like Shibboleth and SimpleSAMLphp but they don't have an intuitive and easy to use UI and you will have make changes in their config files directly.
As you already pointed above since you don't have any cost issues then you can check out ADFS and Ping Federate.
My best choices will be:
Paid : PingIdentity
Free (as in community) : WSO2 IS, Forgerock OpenAM, Redhat Keycloak
Free : SAMLphp, ADFS (you paid for the servers anyway)
I'm trying to set up a single-sign-on solution to a 3rd party site. They currently don't have anything set up on their end yet, but they want to use SAML. They instructed us to "provide them a sample of a standard SAML2.0 message", and sent over a certificate. Kind of asking me to show them a key and they'll build a lock to put it in.
I need some direction on what to actually set up for this. The vendor has cryptically stated that they are using these parts of the SAML message: ds:Signature, saml:Conditions, samlNameId. I've put together a C# console app that can produce a Saml2SecurityToken using their certificate and a given Name Identifier, and set a timeframe for the condition. I think this is what they need from me.
We do have ADFS however. I've used it to authenticate users accessing internal sites, so I have a little experience with it. I'm overwhelmed by the information for ADFS though, and can't grasp what to set up for this kind of situation - I don't know how to translate the vendor & I's relationship into ADFS terminology.
Can someone explain who I am and who they are in ADFS terms? I think all the pieces for setting this relationship are right there, but I'm just getting swamped by the volumes of information on every page about ADFS.
On your ADFS site, navigate to:
https://your server/federationmetadata/2007-06/federationmetadata.xml.
Save this file, send to the vendor. This is the metadata. It describes the SAML profiles, the certificates, the public keys etc. You don't need to send them any actual certificates.
Ask the vendor for their metadata. Import this into ADFS as a Claims Provider Trust.
Configure your application via WIF to use ADFS.
When the user navigates to the application, the user will be redirected to ADFS. They will get the Home Realm Discovery screen and select either the 3rd party vendor or ADFS to authenticate and then they will get access to the application.
If ADFS is the source of authentication ADFS is the IP, the vendor is the service provider (RP). And obviously vice versa.
I have a 3rd party program that supports web SSO using SAML 1.1 (it is ready to serve as the Service Provider, in other words).
We would like to implement this SSO for our intranet users based on their Active Directory credentials. In other words, they've already logged on to their system, so let's simply use those credentials to facilitate an SSO. I am a little overwhelmed at where to begin, though.
My initial thought is that IIS / Active Directory could easily serve as the Identity Provider since IIS gives us "Integrated Windows Authentication" abilities. I would think we could just create a .NET web app that requires Integrated Authentication which simply extracts the current user ID, builds the SAML response, and re-directs the user back to the Service Provider with this SAML response to complete the SSO.
But then, my problem is that I simply have no real idea of how to go about creating this SAML response, the X.509 certs involved, etc... I am wondering if I am in over my head on this, or if creating this SAML response should be relatively easy.
Note this SSO is to be used by intranet users only, so no need to worry about federating with other companies / domains.
Another option that you may want to look into is Microsoft's Active Directory Federation Server (ADFS) 2.0.
I wouldn't bother trying to build something SAML compliant. It will take you weeks to use a toolkit and your efforts will probably only handle the one use case. Once you get something custom into place you'll soon realize the rest of your organization needs some type of SAML integration as well (either internal or externally).
The quickest (and IMHO) easiest way (and you'll come out looking like a hero) is to use something like PingFederate from www.pingidentity.com. You can have it up and running in less than a day if you know what you are doing.
Just my $0.02
HTH - Ian