We have a structure similar to the following:
create table company
(
id bigint not null,
tz text not null
);
create table company_data
(
company_id bigint not null,
ts_tz timestamp with time zone not null
);
The tables are simplified.
Fiddle with sample data here: SQL Fiddle
Every company has a fixed TZ. So, when we need to extract some information from company_data we use a query similar to the following:
select
cd.company_id,
cd.ts_tz at time zone c.tz
from company_data cd
join company c on c.id = cd.company_id;
We also have a function to get company tz:
create or replace function tz_company(f_company_id bigint) returns text
language plpgsql
as
$$
declare
f_tz text;
begin
select c.tz from company c where c.id = f_company_id into f_tz;
return f_tz;
end;
$$;
And another to transform a ts in a date applying a tz:
create or replace function tz_date(timestamp with time zone, text) returns date
language plpgsql
immutable strict
as
$$
begin
return ($1 at time zone $2) :: date;
end;
$$;
The problem we are having now is that company_data (and other similar tables) is a large and frequently used table. The majority of the SELECTs in that table performs filtering using a DATE.
For example:
select cd.company_id,
cd.ts_tz at time zone tz_company(cd.company_id)
from company_data cd
where tz_date(cd.ts_tz, tz_company(cd.company_id)) >= '2019-08-20'
and tz_date(cd.ts_tz, tz_company(cd.company_id)) <= '2019-08-22';
So, to speed up queries, we need to add an index in the company_data.ts_tz column. The only way for doing this that we found was the following:
create index idx_company_data_ts_tz on company_data
(((company_data.ts_tz at time zone tz_company(company_data.company_id))::date));
For this to work, we need to make the tz_company function immutable.
Some other problems (and ideas) emerged:
1 - The version of the query using tz_date function does not use index.
Not uses index:
explain analyse
select cd.company_id,
cd.ts_tz at time zone tz_company(cd.company_id)
from company_data cd
where tz_date(cd.ts_tz, tz_company(cd.company_id)) >= '2019-08-20'
and tz_date(cd.ts_tz, tz_company(cd.company_id)) <= '2019-08-22';
Uses index:
explain analyse
select cd.company_id,
cd.ts_tz at time zone tz_company(cd.company_id)
from company_data cd
where (cd.ts_tz at time zone tz_company(cd.company_id))::date >= '2019-08-20'
and (cd.ts_tz at time zone tz_company(cd.company_id))::date <= '2019-08-22';
Why that happens?
2 - We know that, in theory, tz_company should not be immutable, at most stable. But, the company tz is an information that should not change, ever. Yes, it could happen, but it is improbable. In the past three years, we never change the tz of any company. So, is still a problem for tz_company to be immutable? If it is, how could we rewrite the index? Note that a single SELECT could bring information of more than one company and mix different timezones.
3 - Because of the complexity of dealing with indexes in a timestamptz column we consider to add another column in every table that has a ts_tz. This new column would be a date with tz already applied. Is this a good approach?
Besides, we need to apply tz before casting because every client (company) selects only dates to filter and this dates are locale aware (tz aware).
EDIT 1:
The queries used are only for demonstration. But a requirement is that the client sees the timestamps in the timezone where the event has occurred, this is an important requirement. We deal with logistics operations in Brazil and Brazil itself has four different timezones across the country.
A holding could own different companies and every company could be in a different timezone.
So, a lot of queries deals with different companies at different timezones and applying some date filtering. Today, our backend returns all data ready to display, with timezone applied and this would be difficult to change.
What we want to achieve, is an easy and performative way of dealing with those timestamptz columns: applying filter by date (tz aware) and using indexes to speedup queries.
1 - That's because tz_date is not marked as immutable. It is safe to mark it as immutable if postgres allows to create an index on the same expression as in the body of the function -- it only would allow to do it on an immutable expression. Some postgres date-time manipulation functions and type casts are immutable, some aren't. BTW I'm not sure what happens to an index if at time zone operator breaks its immutability contract when tzdata is changed -- that happens quite often on postgres or OS upgrade, depending on the settings.
2 - That's a very dangerous approach, the index becomes corrupted if you change the data. You may lose data. If you absolutely need this pseudo-immutable function I would strongly recommend to add a trigger that disallows deletes, truncates and updates of company.tz. If you ever need to change the time zone data, drop the index first.
3 - The key question is whether you happen to query data across multiple companies?
a) If you do, it's only of numerological sense. 2011-09-13 events from Niue (UTC-11) and 2019-09-13 events from New Zealand (UTC+13) can never happen at the same time. The only common property of these events is they happened on Friday the 13th. That's only notation, it never was 2019-09-13 in both countries at the same time. So please make sure your queries really make sense. In this unlikely case denormalization of the date notation as a separate timestamp without time zone column would make sense, as you're filtering by notation of time, not by the moment of time. I would recommend a trigger to populate it.
b) All your queries are single-company. In this case I would create a plain index on columns only with no expressions and create a function and make queries like this:
create index on company_data(company_id, ts_tz);
create function midnight_at_company(p_date date, p_company_id bigint) strict returns timestamp with time zone as $$
select p_date::timestamp at time zone tz from company where id = p_company_id;
$$ language sql;
-- put your company id instead of $1
explain analyse
select cd.company_id,
cd.ts_tz at time zone tz_company(cd.company_id)
from company_data cd
where company_id = $1
and cd.ts_tz >= midnight_at_company('2019-08-20', $1)
and cd.ts_tz < midnight_at_company('2019-08-23', $1); --note exact `<`, not `<=`
I would standardize all the time zones into one calling it database or server time. I understand that companies are in different places, but that is not a good reason to have timezones all over your data. Using this method will eliminate the need to have a time zone reference table. When you pull the data from any one of these companies write your code to take into account the server time zone so that it reads in your local time.
This will eliminate tons of potential confusion. This is a method used across the world, that is why data timestamps in most APIs only have one timezone.
In response to Edit:
Hi #Luiz
Let me start with there is no right or wrong answer its whatever think works best. In my case I am of the opinion that the front end view and the data should be managed some what separate. On the data side as per this topic I would handle all date stamps using server time. The need to view data one way or another is a front end issue.
In the case of your requirement I would either hard code a js switch like such.
switch("CampanyA") {
case "CompanyA":
return Timezone EST...
// code block
break;
case "CompanyB" :
// code block
break;
default:
// code block
}
or if there are to many companies for a hard code to be handling I would make a table with the "Company ID", "Company name", and "Time Zone Code". Do not link this table to your data. You should add the "Company ID" to the main table with events that have the server time zone.
Use the table with the company time zone codes to populate your look up filter that will be used to run your query. When your script event handler reacts to the drop down menu it will save the current TM Zone code associated with that company and use the value when trying to display the time zone in accordance to your requirement. I would also force your code to load data as async (1000 records or so every few mil seconds) instead of all at once. This will vastly increase performance and the user will not be able to tell that their data is still loading.
This efforts will let you manipulate the time zone to meet the current and future requirements that might come up.
I think the current schema that u are using for your application is not the best for such a problem.
You would have a lot of problems saving different timezones at the same table.
Use UTC, only use UTC on the DB/Schema level, you can set that in Postgres conf also.
Depending on the application, you could send back UTC dates and convert them to their current local time in javascript/server Side. If that's not possible have one place where the user specifies their current UTC offset and then right before you display the date/time convert it to their time.
This is going to make your life super simple and u can achieve great performance on the Query level as u now would have a performant DB Schema, the SQL functions you have makes no sense as you can achieve much better performance just by using indexing in DB.
So as per your specific requirements, I would have the schema as u have with some additions, I would index the id for the table company and would store all the data in UTC for the timestamp in table company_data.
if the company data is being requested we fetch the Timezone(Text) from the company table, using this data we can have the backend code/JS do the timezone change magic.
we have a limited amount of timezones, you can ideally have those set in config to make the lookup easier and faster.
Related
Good day all,
I am trying to filter todays result in SQL table to a collection in powerapps. The column "dt" represents the column in sql of datetime type.
This is my powerapps filter:
ClearCollect(myCollectionName, Filter(myDatasource, Text(dt,"dd/mm/yyyy") = Text(Now(),"dd/mm/yyyy" )));
Seems like the collection is still empty even there is data for today in sql. May I know if my approach is the correct way in filtering?
Short answer: the data is likely being changed based on the client time zone. To fix it, you can update it by applying the time zone offset to the data from the SQL table, something along the lines of:
ClearCollect(
myCollectionName,
Filter(
myDatasource,
Text(DateAdd(dt, TimeZoneOffset(dt), Minutes), "dd/mm/yyyy") =
Text(Now(), "dd/mm/yyyy")))
Long(er) answer: the datetime type in SQL Server represents an absolute value of date and time. For example, the value '2021-12-23 09:30:00' represents 9:30 in the morning of the 23rd day of December, 2021 - at any part of the world. The date/time type in Power Apps, however, represents a point in time, typically referring to the local time where the app is being executed (or created). For example, if I selected that value and I'm in the US Pacific Time Zone (UTC-08:00), that would represent the same value as if someone in London (UTC+00:00) selected 2021-12-23 17:30:00. Since the two types represent different concepts, we may have mismatches like you are facing. To fix this, we can either use a type in SQL Server that has the same semantics as Power Apps (for example, 'datetimeoffset'), or adjust the time when it is being transferred between SQL and Power Apps.
The blog post at https://powerapps.microsoft.com/en-us/blog/working-with-datetime-values-in-sql explains in more details how to work with date/time values in SQL and Power Apps.
I'm digging into how Postgres works and have decided that any date/time data in my database should be of datatype timestamptz.
The rules that govern how Postgres parses date/time information vary based on the server's timezone, the client session timezone, and/or the database timezone setting. I can't expect my developers to know all of this, so to avoid any ambiguity I would like to somehow procedurally require a timezone be specified in any INSERT or UPDATE to a timestamptz column, and for any UPDATES or INSERTS to fail when the input value for a timestamptz column doesn't explicity include a time zone. I've created a regex that I can use to match against the input value; I just don't know how to hook up the plumbing.
I first thought I could do this with a custom domain; however, it appears that the CHECK constraint on a domain is done after the input string has already been parsed, so that won't work. (By then, the server has already inferred the time zone for values where time zone wasn't explicitly included.)
I could use a custom data type, but that's a whole can of worms there and I'm not sure that doing so would preserve all of the operators and functions that would operate on the underlying timstamptz column.
I could use BEFORE INSERT and BEFORE UPDATE triggers, but doing so would require me to iterate over every column in the NEW record, determine its datatype, then check the value against a regex to ensure a time zone is specified.
Does the community have any ideas on how to accomplish this? I think the BEFORE INSERT/BEFORE UPDATE is likely the best place to do this work, but I don't know how to iterate over the new record and find the data type for each column.
Is there an easier way to accomplish this that I've missed?
I can't expect my developers to know all of this
I think that's your problem. If you want to use PostgreSQL and work with time zones, you need your developers to understand it.
It's all very simple: Only set the timezone parameter correctly for the client session, then everything will just work.
What is the best way to store a timestamp value in Postgresql in a specific format.
For example I would like to store a TIMESTAMP '2020-07-09 17:29:30.873513Z' down to the minute and ignore seconds value.
I can drop the seconds by using date_trunc('minute', TIMESTAMP '2020-07-09 17:29:30.873513Z') Is there anyway for me to specify this format in the column itself when I create a table?
Don't store formatted timestamps in the database, use timestamp with time zone or timestamp without time zone. You would lose powerful datetime arithmetic, value checking and waste storage space.
To have the values truncated to minute precision, use a BEFORE INSERT trigger that uses date_trunc on the value.
If you want to ascertain that only such values are stored, add a check constraint.
I would like to recommend not to drop seconds or anything from the stored data. Because it will create issues while you process the data later. And if you have to eliminate anything, you may eliminate it while retrieving the data.
Use the following code while creation of table
col_name timestamp without time zone DEFAULT timezone('gmt'::text, now())
This will give you a result as shown in the following image:
Good Luck.
CURRENT SITUATION:
I have a table of wildfire incidents with a timestamp with time zone (timestamptz) field to track when the observation occurred.
Everything in the data creation process is in UTC: the incoming data from the source, the app server that inserts the data, the insert python code (appends a "Z" to the time), and the database server are all in UTC.
The incidents' geographic extent spans several time zones in the US, Canada, and Mexico.
PROBLEM:
I've been querying on a day's worth of data in UTC time, but need to extract out data relative to local time. The midnight to midnight range will be different in each time zone.
My use case now is one day, but I was asked to consider arbitrary time ranges. E.g.: find all incidents in the hottest part of the day (say 10:00 to 18:00) local time.
This table is quite large and I have an index on the timestamptz field right now. Any changes I make will need to work with an index.
Account for daylight saving time.
I have a method to get the time zone for each record, so I don't need help with that.
I created a test table for this with a timestamptz field ts_with and a varchar field for the time zone tz. The following query returns what I want, so I feel like I'm making progress.
SELECT
name, test_tz.ts_with, test_tz.tz,
TIMEZONE(test_tz.tz, test_tz.ts_with) as timezone_with
FROM fire_info.test_tz
WHERE TIMEZONE(test_tz.tz, test_tz.ts_with) BETWEEN
'2018-08-07 00:00:00' AND '2018-08-07 23:59:59';
QUESTIONS:
Will this use my index? I'm thinking the timezone function will avoid it. Any solution for that? I'm considering adding another condition to the where clause that selects on timestamptz buffered by a day on either side. That would use the index and then the timezone function isn't sorting through too much data (~6k records per day during fire season). Would PG figure that out?
The timezone function is giving me DST offsets (e.g.: Denver is currently UTC-06). I assume I'll get standard time after DST ends. If I run a query in December for data in August, will it apply standard time or DST?
thanks!!!
The way you wrote the query, it cannot use an index on ts_with.
To use an index, the condition would have to be of the form ts_with <operator> <constant>, and there is no way to rewrite the query in that fashion.
So you should create a second index on timezone(test_tz.tz, test_tz.ts_with).
I have table with created (timestamptz) property. Now, i need to create pagination based on timestamp, because while user is watching first page, new items could be submitted into this table, which will make data inconsistent in case if i'll use OFFSET for pagination.
So, the question is: should i keep created type as timestamptz or it's better to convert it into integer (unix, e.g. 1472031802812). If so, is there any disadvantages? Also, atm i have now() as default value in created - is there alternative function to create unix timestamp?
Let me rewrite things from comments to my answer. You want to use timestamp type instead of integer simply because that's exactly what it was designed for. Doing manual convertions between timestamp integers and timestamp objects is just a pain and you gain nothing. And you will need it eventually for more complex datetime based queries.
To answer a question about pagination. You simply do a query
SELECT *
FROM table_name
WHERE created < lastTimestamp
ORDER BY created DESC
LIMIT 30
If it is first query then you set say lastTimestamp = '3000-01-01'. Otherwise you set lastTimestamp = last_query.last_row.created.
Optimization
Note that if the table is big then ORDER BY created DESC might not be efficient (especially if called parallely with different ranges). In this case you can use moving "time windows", for example:
SELECT *
FROM table_name
WHERE
created < lastTimestamp
AND created >= lastTimestamp - interval '1 day'
The 1 day interval is picked arbitrarly (tune it to your needs). You can also sort results in the app.
If results is not empty then you update (in your app)
lastTimestamp = last_query.last_row.created
(assuming you've done sorting, otherwise you take min(last_query.row.created))
If results is empty then you repeat the query with lastTimestamp = lastTimestamp - interval '1 day' until you fetch something. Also you have to stop if lastTimestamp becomes to low, i.e. when it is lower then any other timestamp in the table (which has to be prefetched).
All of that is under some assumptions for inserts:
new_row.created >= any_row.created and
new_row.created ~ current_time
The distribution of new_row.created is more or less uniform
Assumption 1 ensures that pagination results in consistent data while assumption 2 is only needed for the default 3000-01-01 date. Assumption 3 is to make sure that you don't have big empty gaps when you have to issue many empty queries.
You mean something like this?
select extract(epoch from now())::integer as unix_time