UTC is different on 2 servers for same database - postgresql

I have one server which is on UTC time and one which is on EST. Now I dumped the database from the UTC one and imported it to the EST one. As timestamps are always saved as UTC I cannot find a reason the reason I get two different results for the same query:
select reported_on at time zone 'UTC', temperature from data order by reported_on desc;
UTC Server:
temperature | device | timezone
-------------+--------------------------------------+----------------------------
17.2 | ------------------------------------ | 2020-05-05 12:13:16.256+00
EST Server:
temperature | device | timezone
-------------+--------------------------------------+----------------------------
17.2 | ------------------------------------ | 2020-05-05 14:13:16.256+02
What am I missing here? How can I query the data without the timezones, I need the UTC time, not the +02 time? How can I achieve this?
Edit:
I added the lines through nodejs:
INSERT INTO data(device, reported_on, temperature, humidity) VALUES($1, to_timestamp(' + Date.now() /1000.0 + '), $2, $3) RETURNING *
The Typ of the column is:
reported_on TIMESTAMP,
Update:
Altering the timezone fixed the issue!
ALTER DATABASE sensors SET timezone TO 'UTC';
SELECT pg_reload_conf();

This is about your local database configuration. I created a dummy database locally and the result was this:
test=# CREATE TABLE timestamptest (timezone TIMESTAMPTZ);`
Showed my timezone pattern:
test=# SHOW TIMEZONE;
TimeZone
----------
UTC
(1 row)
And inserted some values inside:
test=# SELECT * FROM timestamptest;
timezone
-------------------------------
2020-05-05 15:26:27.377549+00
2020-05-05 15:28:14.014597+00
(2 rows)
Now, I changed the local timezone variable:
test=# SET TIME ZONE 'America/Montreal';
SET
And selected the info again:
test=# INSERT INTO timestamptest VALUES (now());
INSERT 0 1
test=# SELECT * FROM timestamptest ;
timezone
-------------------------------
2020-05-05 11:26:27.377549-04
2020-05-05 11:28:14.014597-04
(2 rows)
And my timezone is different because the SET command:
test=# SHOW timezone;
TimeZone
------------------
America/Montreal
(1 row)
You can change your local configuration and, about your selects showed in your question, the import seems to be correct, just the local timestamp configuration needed to be set equals from one to another.
Note that -04 on the end of the timestamp shows that your time has changed 4 hours in relation of -00 originally. Just a formatting ouptut.
More information here: here on postgresql docs

The statement "timestamps are always saved as UTC" is incorrect. Timestamp without time (timestamp) is stored with local time, timestamp with time zone (timestamptz) is always stored in UTC. From the documentation:
timestamp without time zone, PostgreSQL will silently ignore any time
zone indication. That is, the resulting value is derived from the
date/time fields in the input value, and is not adjusted for time
zone.
For timestamp with time zone, the internally stored value is always in
UTC (Universal Coordinated Time, traditionally known as Greenwich Mean
Time, GMT). An input value that has an explicit time zone specified is
converted to UTC using the appropriate offset for that time zone. If
no time zone is stated in the input string, then it is assumed to be
in the time zone indicated by the system's TimeZone parameter, and is
converted to UTC using the offset for the timezone zone.
Additional be very careful using 'EST', or any of the other timezone abbreviations, instead use the full timezone name. The abbreviations indicate a fixed UTC offset (i.e. EST is always UTC-5, and EDT is always UTC-4) and do not recognize Daylight Savings Time (DST). On the other hand the full names (i.e. are US/Central' or 'America/Montreal' or any other full timezone name) are DST aware and adjust UTC offset accordingly.
Unlike the abbreviations shown in pg_timezone_abbrevs, many of these
names imply a set of daylight-savings transition date rules.
You can observe this with:
select * from pg_timezone_abbrevs where abbrev in ('EDT', 'EST')
select * from pg_timezone_names where name in ('US/Eastern','America/New_York','America/Montreal')

The type of the column is TIMESTAMP*"
I guess there's your problem. You'll want to use TIMESTAMP WITH TIME ZONE instead. Alternatively, do not use AT TIME ZONE 'UTC' in your SELECT statement, so that you just get back the same timestamp that was stored, regardless of timezone.
What is happening in SELECT reported_on AT TIME ZONE 'UTC' is that the stored date is converted from the database's local timezone to UTC. In your second database with a different local timezone, that's a different conversion, leading to the offset in the result.

Related

postgres - date time is automatically converted

Using vscode in debug mode, when I hover over a date field, it show as the below image.
but when I logged it out, it get converted to
"execution_date":"2021-12-02T20:23:48.322Z"
which is minus 7 hour.
The field is stored in postgres database on AWS RDS as timestamp, running show timezone; returns UTC and I am using VSCode in GMT+7 time. How can I fix this because the date get changed and used to call api, so the returned result would be incorrect.
This is not a complete answer as that would depend on more information. Instead it is an explanation of what is going on that may help you troubleshoot:
set TimeZone = UTC;
show timezone;
TimeZone
----------
UTC
--Show that timestamp is taken at UTC
select now();
now
-------------------------------
2021-12-05 18:23:38.604681+00
--Table with timestamp and timestamptz to show different behavior.
create table dt_test(id integer, ts_fld timestamp, tsz_fld timestamptz);
--Insert local time 'ICT'
insert into dt_test values (1, '2021-12-03 03:23:48.322+07', '2021-12-03 03:23:48.322+07');
--The timestamp entry ignores the time zone offset, while the timestamptz uses it to rotate to UTC as '2021-12-03 03:23:48.322+07' is same as '2021-12-02 20:23:48.322+00'
select * from dt_test ;
id | ts_fld | tsz_fld
----+-------------------------+----------------------------
1 | 2021-12-03 03:23:48.322 | 2021-12-02 20:23:48.322+00
--timestamp takes the value as at 'ICT' and then rotates it to the current 'TimeZone' UTC. The timestamptz takes the value at UTC at rotates it to 'ICT'
select ts_fld AT TIME ZONE 'ICT', tsz_fld AT TIME ZONE 'ICT' from dt_test ;
timezone | timezone
----------------------------+-------------------------
2021-12-02 20:23:48.322+00 | 2021-12-03 03:23:48.322
I am guessing at some point in the process to get the value for the API the code is taking the timestamp value and applying AT TIME ZONE 'ICT' either in the database or downstream using some equivalent procedure.
I have found the problem, it's is related to how Sequelize and postgres deal with timestamp without timezone. If you have the same problem like me, please refer to the following link: https://github.com/sequelize/sequelize/issues/3000

Date and time in UTC - how to store them in postgres?

I am getting my data: date and time in UTC, in a csv file format in separate columns. Since I will need to convert this zone to date and time of the place where I live, currently in summer to UTC+2, and maybe some other zones I was wondering what is the best practice to insert data in postgres when we are talking about type of data. Should I place both of my data in a single column or keep them separate as types: date and time, and if not should I use timestamp or timestampz (or something else).
use timestamptz it will store your time stamp in UTC. and will display it to the client according to it's locale.
https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/static/datatype-datetime.html
For timestamp with time zone, the internally stored value is always in
UTC (Universal Coordinated Time, traditionally known as Greenwich Mean
Time, GMT). An input value that has an explicit time zone specified is
converted to UTC using the appropriate offset for that time zone. If
no time zone is stated in the input string, then it is assumed to be
in the time zone indicated by the system's TimeZone parameter, and is
converted to UTC using the offset for the timezone zone.
When a timestamp with time zone value is output, it is always
converted from UTC to the current timezone zone, and displayed as
local time in that zone. To see the time in another time zone, either
change timezone or use the AT TIME ZONE construct (see Section 9.9.3).
updated with another good point from Lukasz, I had to mention:
Also in favor of single column is the fact that if you would store
both date and time in separate columns you would still need to combine
them and convert to timestamp if you wanted to change time zone of
date.
Not doing that would lead to date '2017-12-31' with time '23:01:01' would in other time zone in fact be not only different time, but different date with all YEAR and MONTH and DAY different
another update As per Laurenz notice, don't forget the above docs quote
An input value that has an explicit time zone specified is converted to UTC using the appropriate offset for that time zone. Which means you have to manage the input dates carefully. Eg:
t=# create table t(t timestamptz);
CREATE TABLE
t=# set timezone to 'GMT+5';
SET
t=# insert into t select '2017-01-01 00:00:00';
INSERT 0 1
t=# insert into t select '2017-01-01 00:00:00' at time zone 'UTC';
INSERT 0 1
t=# insert into t select '2017-01-01 00:00:00+02';
INSERT 0 1
t=# select * from t;
t
------------------------
2017-01-01 00:00:00-05
2017-01-01 05:00:00-05
2016-12-31 17:00:00-05
(3 rows)

Convert a UTC timezone in postgresql to EST (local time)

I am new to PostgreSQL and I was wondering if there is a direct way to just convert the timestamp values in a table to a different timezone using a function. In my case it is UTC to EST.
These are the values for example that I need to convert to EST (not just one value but all the values in the table)
date
-------------------
2015-10-24 16:38:46
2016-01-19 18:27:00
2016-01-24 16:14:34
2016-02-09 23:05:49
2016-02-11 20:46:26
Here in London, we are currently 1 hour ahead of UTC. So - if I take your timezone without timestamp and say it is in UTC I will get it printed for my local timezone.
richardh=> SELECT ((timestamp '2015-10-24 16:38:46') AT TIME ZONE 'UTC');
timezone
------------------------
2015-10-24 17:38:46+01
(1 row)
But you want "EST" which seems to be somewhere in the Americas, judging by the value returned. You can wrap the expression in a little SQL function if you wanted to.
richardh=> SELECT ((timestamp '2015-10-24 16:38:46') AT TIME ZONE 'UTC') AT TIME ZONE 'EST';
timezone
---------------------
2015-10-24 11:38:46
(1 row)
Edit: how to do it in a query
SELECT ((stored_timestamp AT TIME ZONE 'UTC') AT TIME ZONE 'EST') AS local_timestamp
FROM my_table;
Similarly
execute
SELECT '2015-10-24 16:38:46'::timestamp AT time zone 'EST';
timezone
------------------------
2015-10-24 21:38:46+00
(1 row)
I usually leave everything in UTC and convert when it is time to show.
I use something like:
SELECT my_date_utc AT time zone 'utc' at time zone 'est' From ....
If you have problem accessing with your zone, you can simply pass your zone interval also.
To convert timestamp from IST to UTC.
SELECT '2020-12-14 06:38:46'::timestamp AT time zone INTERVAL '+05:30';
timezone
------------------------
2015-10-24 11:38:46+00
(1 row)
To convert timestamp from UTC to IST.
SELECT '2020-12-14 06:38:46'::timestamp AT time zone INTERVAL '-05:30';
timezone
------------------------
2020-12-14 12:08:46+00
(1 row)
It is 12:22 here in Los Angeles now.
I find that I have to reverse the UST and america/los_angeles arguments:
ods=> SELECT NOW(),(NOW() AT TIME ZONE 'america/los_angeles') AT TIME ZONE 'utc';;
now | timezone
-------------------------------+-------------------------------
2022-04-22 19:22:35.943605+00 | 2022-04-22 12:22:35.943605+00
(1 row)
Am I missing something?
You should always store the main reference of a date in UTC and either convert it to a time zone in your queries or store the specific timezone version of the data in another column. The reason for this is that it is quick and easy to convert a date from UTC to another time zone as long as you know that the timezone that it is stored as is UTC. It takes the guess work out of it. Alternatively, you can store the date WITH the timezone.
If you have an operation that automatically populates the date with the system clock of your server, then you can either
A: Change the operation to use UTC time
B: Change the system clock on the server to UTC
I had the same problem, I am working with different regions and timezones, I need to just fix the timezone in the query the way it doesn't effect other customers around the regions and I havent changed the table structure or any thing(Open–closed principle) . What I did In my query:
SELECT TO_CHAR(current_timestamp at time zone 'Australia/Melbourne', 'DD/MM/YYYY hh24:mi AM') as date_of_extract
This worked for me and I could change the 'UTC' defult timezone for my postgressql to the 'Australia/Melbourne'(any time zone you are looking into). hope this is helpful.
Building off of #Leandro Castro's answer...
To get current time in in timezone, use the CURRENT_TIME function:
SELECT CURRENT_TIME(0) AT time zone 'utc' at time zone 'est';

Retrieving UTC timestamptzs from postgres in the correct time zone

I store timestamps with time zone in my postgres database. The server time zone is UTC. All the timestamptzs are stored as UTC datetimes.
Now, I'd like to retrieve those timestamps, but for a specific time zone (e.g. US/Pacific). Because of daylight savings time, the correct time zone is sometimes PDT and sometimes PST. So I can't just run a query like select t at time zone 'pdt' because this will be wrong for the pst dates.
Is there a way to pull the dates from the database in the correct time zone?
According to the documentation, together with TIME ZONE code you can also specify locales. For your case you can use something like that:
ds=# SELECT current_setting('TIMEZONE');
current_setting
-----------------
UTC
(1 row)
ds=# SELECT now();
now
-------------------------------
2015-11-05 00:35:03.126317+00
(1 row)
pm7=# SELECT now() AT TIME ZONE 'America/Los_Angeles';
timezone
----------------------------
2015-11-04 16:35:06.344367
(1 row)

Difference between timestamps with/without time zone in PostgreSQL

Are timestamp values stored differently in PostgreSQL when the data type is WITH TIME ZONE versus WITHOUT TIME ZONE? Can the differences be illustrated with simple test cases?
The differences are covered at the PostgreSQL documentation for date/time types. Yes, the treatment of TIME or TIMESTAMP differs between one WITH TIME ZONE or WITHOUT TIME ZONE. It doesn't affect how the values are stored; it affects how they are interpreted.
The effects of time zones on these data types is covered specifically in the docs. The difference arises from what the system can reasonably know about the value:
With a time zone as part of the value, the value can be rendered as a local time in the client.
Without a time zone as part of the value, the obvious default time zone is UTC, so it is rendered for that time zone.
The behaviour differs depending on at least three factors:
The timezone setting in the client.
The data type (i.e. WITH TIME ZONE or WITHOUT TIME ZONE) of the value.
Whether the value is specified with a particular time zone.
Here are examples covering the combinations of those factors:
foo=> SET TIMEZONE TO 'Japan';
SET
foo=> SELECT '2011-01-01 00:00:00'::TIMESTAMP;
timestamp
---------------------
2011-01-01 00:00:00
(1 row)
foo=> SELECT '2011-01-01 00:00:00'::TIMESTAMP WITH TIME ZONE;
timestamptz
------------------------
2011-01-01 00:00:00+09
(1 row)
foo=> SELECT '2011-01-01 00:00:00+03'::TIMESTAMP;
timestamp
---------------------
2011-01-01 00:00:00
(1 row)
foo=> SELECT '2011-01-01 00:00:00+03'::TIMESTAMP WITH TIME ZONE;
timestamptz
------------------------
2011-01-01 06:00:00+09
(1 row)
foo=> SET TIMEZONE TO 'Australia/Melbourne';
SET
foo=> SELECT '2011-01-01 00:00:00'::TIMESTAMP;
timestamp
---------------------
2011-01-01 00:00:00
(1 row)
foo=> SELECT '2011-01-01 00:00:00'::TIMESTAMP WITH TIME ZONE;
timestamptz
------------------------
2011-01-01 00:00:00+11
(1 row)
foo=> SELECT '2011-01-01 00:00:00+03'::TIMESTAMP;
timestamp
---------------------
2011-01-01 00:00:00
(1 row)
foo=> SELECT '2011-01-01 00:00:00+03'::TIMESTAMP WITH TIME ZONE;
timestamptz
------------------------
2011-01-01 08:00:00+11
(1 row)
I try to explain it more understandably than the referred PostgreSQL documentation.
Neither TIMESTAMP variants store a time zone (or an offset), despite what the names suggest. The difference is in the interpretation of the stored data (and in the intended application), not in the storage format itself:
TIMESTAMP WITHOUT TIME ZONE stores local date-time (aka. wall calendar date and wall clock time). Its time zone is unspecified as far as PostgreSQL can tell (though your application may knows what it is). Hence, PostgreSQL does no time zone related conversion on input or output. If the value was entered into the database as '2011-07-01 06:30:30', then no mater in what time zone you display it later, it will still say year 2011, month 07, day 01, 06 hours, 30 minutes, and 30 seconds (in some format). Also, any offset or time zone you specify in the input is ignored by PostgreSQL, so '2011-07-01 06:30:30+00' and '2011-07-01 06:30:30+05' are the same as just '2011-07-01 06:30:30'.
For Java developers: it's analogous to java.time.LocalDateTime.
TIMESTAMP WITH TIME ZONE stores a point on the UTC time line. How it looks (how many hours, minutes, etc.) depends on your time zone, but it always refers to the same "physical" instant (like the moment of an actual physical event). The
input is internally converted to UTC, and that's how it's stored. For that, the offset of the input must be known, so when the input contains no explicit offset or time zone (like '2011-07-01 06:30:30') it's assumed to be in the current time zone of the PostgreSQL session, otherwise the explicitly specified offset or time zone is used (as in '2011-07-01 06:30:30+05'). The output is displayed converted to the current time zone of the PostgreSQL session.
For Java developers: It's analogous to java.time.Instant (with lower resolution though), but with JDBC and JPA 2.2 you are supposed to map it to java.time.OffsetDateTime (or to java.util.Date or java.sql.Timestamp of course).
Some say that both TIMESTAMP variations store UTC date-time. Kind of, but it's confusing to put it that way in my opinion. TIMESTAMP WITHOUT TIME ZONE is stored like a TIMESTAMP WITH TIME ZONE, which rendered with UTC time zone happens to give the same year, month, day, hours, minutes, seconds, and microseconds as they are in the local date-time. But it's not meant to represent the point on the time line that the UTC interpretation says, it's just the way the local date-time fields are encoded. (It's some cluster of dots on the time line, as the real time zone is not UTC; we don't know what it is.)
Here is an example that should help. If you have a timestamp with a timezone, you can convert that timestamp into any other timezone. If you haven't got a base timezone it won't be converted correctly.
SELECT now(),
now()::timestamp,
now() AT TIME ZONE 'CST',
now()::timestamp AT TIME ZONE 'CST'
Output:
-[ RECORD 1 ]---------------------------
now | 2018-09-15 17:01:36.399357+03
now | 2018-09-15 17:01:36.399357
timezone | 2018-09-15 08:01:36.399357
timezone | 2018-09-16 02:01:36.399357+03
Timestamptz vs Timestamp
The timestamptz field in Postgres is basically just the timestamp field where Postgres actually just stores the “normalised” UTC time, even if the timestamp given in the input string has a timezone.
If your input string is: 2018-08-28T12:30:00+05:30 , when this timestamp is stored in the database, it will be stored as 2018-08-28T07:00:00.
The advantage of this over the simple timestamp field is that your input to the database will be timezone independent, and will not be inaccurate when apps from different timezones insert timestamps, or when you move your database server location to a different timezone.
To quote from the docs:
For timestamp with time zone, the internally stored value is always in
UTC (Universal Coordinated Time, traditionally known as Greenwich Mean
Time, GMT). An input value that has an explicit time zone specified is
converted to UTC using the appropriate offset for that time zone. If
no time zone is stated in the input string, then it is assumed to be
in the time zone indicated by the system’s TimeZone parameter, and is
converted to UTC using the offset for the timezone zone. To give a
simple analogy, a timestamptz value represents an instant in time, the
same instant for anyone viewing it. But a timestamp value just
represents a particular orientation of a clock, which will represent
different instances of time based on your timezone.
For pretty much any use case, timestamptz is almost always a better choice. This choice is made easier with the fact that both timestamptz and timestamp take up the same 8 bytes of data.
source:
https://hasura.io/blog/postgres-date-time-data-types-on-graphql-fd926e86ee87/
The diffrences are shown in PostgreSQL official docs. Please refer the docs for deep digging.
In a nutshell TIMESTAMP WITHOUT TIME ZONE doesn't save any timezone related informations if you give date time with timezone info,it takes date & time only and ignores timezone
For example
When I save this 12:13, 11 June 2021 IST to PostgreSQL TIMESTAMP WITHOUT TIME ZONE will reject the timezone information and saves the date time 12:13,11 June 2021
But the the case of TIMESTAMP WITH TIME ZONE it saves the timezone info in UTC format.
For example
When I save this 12:13, 11 June 2021 IST to PostgreSQL TIMESTAMP WITH TIME ZONE type variable it will interpret this time to UTC value and
stored as shown in below 6:43,11 June 2021 UTC
NB : UTC + 5.30 is IST
During the time conversion time returned by TIMESTAMP WITH TIME ZONE will be stored in UTC format and we can convert it to the required timezone like IST or PST etc.
So the recommented timestamp type in PostgreSQL is TIMESTAMP WITH TIME ZONE or TIMESTAMPZ
Run the following to see diff in pgAdmin:
create table public.testts (tz timestamp with time zone, tnz timestamp without time zone);
insert into public.testts values(now(), now());
select * from public.testts;
If you have similar issues I had of timestamp precision in Angular / Typescript / Node API / PostgreSql environment, hope my complete answer and solution will help you out.