If my service consumes Kafka messages, can kafka somehow lose my offsets? - apache-kafka

If I have a service that connects to kafka as a message consumer, and every message I read I send a commit to that message offset, so that if my service shutsdown and restarts it will start reading from the last read message onwards. My understanding is that the committed offset will be maintained by kafka.
Now my question is, do I have to worry about the offset? Can kafka somehow lose that information and when the service restarts start reading messages from the beginning of the topic or the end of it depending on my initial offset config? Or if kafka loses my offset it will also have lost all messages in the topic so that it is alright to read from the beginning?
Note: I use spring-kafka on the service, but not sure if that is relevant to the question.

In most cases where you have an active consumer (with manual or auto-committing), you don't need to worry about it.
The cases where you do need to consider the behavior of auto.offset.reset setting is when the offsets.retention.minutes time on the broker has elapsed while your consumer group(s) are inactive. When this happens, Kafka compacts the __consumer_offsets topic and removes any offsets stored for those inactive groups
Losing offsets doesn't affect the source topic. Your client topic(s) have their own independent retention settings, and its message can be removed as well (or not), depending on how you've configured it.

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Can we have retention period of zero in Kafka broker?

Does retention period of zero makes sense in kafka borker?
We want to quickly forward message from producer to consumer via kafka broker. From buffercache/pagecache on broker machine without flushing to disk. We do not need replication and assume our broker will never crash.
When a message is produced to a Kafka topic it is written to the disk. Once the message has been consumed, the offset of this message is committed by the consumer (if you are using the high-level consumer API) however, there is no functionality that deletes only the messages that have been consumed (many consumers may subscribe to the same topic and some of them might have consumed that message while some others might have not).
What I would suggest in your case is to set a short retention period (which by default is set to 7 days) but allow a reasonable amount of time in order to allow your consumer to consume the messages. To do this, you simply need to configure the following parameter in server.properties:
log.retention.ms=X
Note that there is no guarantee that the deleted message(s) have been successfully consumed by your consumer(s). For example, if you set the retention period to 2 seconds (i.e. log.retention.ms=2000) and your consumer crashes, then every message which is sent to the topic while the consumer is down will be lost.

Re-reading offset after kafka server reboot

Setting the autocommit.enable option for the Kafka consumer causes consumed messages to be committed, which means that if a consumer crashes, it will start reading offsets from the last committed position.
But what if we restart kafka server, will the consumer re-read already committed offsets or this option works in such case as well - after server reboot only unread message will be consumed?
You asked (sort of):
Does the consumer re-read message before the committed offset?
The answer is no. Once your offset is committed on the server, the consumers won't re-read any message (unless they manually want to).
But you might want to be asking this question to yourself:
Is it possible for consumers to consume the same message multiple
times even if they enable autocommit?
The answer to that is "not without effort". To understand why, read section 4.6 of Kafka design. Kafka doesn't provide exactly-once delivery guarantees on the consumers side. In order to make sure that multiple consumers don't consume the same messages you need to coordinate between your consumer clients.
The other option is to make all your messages idempotent. That way it doesn't matter if multiple consumers process the same message several times.
The committed offset works across Kafka server reboot, because
When producer publishes a message it gets a offset that is
immutable, and retains across server restart
In Kafka 0.9 and after the committed offset is stored in a topic __committed_offset(You might want to check name of this topic), which is retained across server restart
In Kafka before 0.9 also the committed offset will be stored in Zookeeper and zookeeper retains that offset in log file

Why do Kafka consumers connect to zookeeper, and producers get metadata from brokers?

Why is it that consumers connect to zookeeper to retrieve the partition locations? And kafka producers have to connect to one of the brokers to retrieve metadata.
My point is, what exactly is the use of zookeeper when every broker already has all the necessary metadata to tell producers the location to send their messages? Couldn't the brokers send this same information to the consumers?
I can understand why brokers have the metadata, to not have to make a connection to zookeeper each time a new message is sent to them. Is there a function that zookeeper has that I'm missing? I'm finding it hard to think of a reason why zookeeper is really needed within a kafka cluster.
First of all, zookeeper is needed only for high level consumer. SimpleConsumer does not require zookeeper to work.
The main reason zookeeper is needed for a high level consumer is to track consumed offsets and handle load balancing.
Now in more detail.
Regarding offset tracking, imagine following scenario: you start a consumer, consume 100 messages and shut the consumer down. Next time you start your consumer you'll probably want to resume from your last consumed offset (which is 100), and that means you have to store the maximum consumed offset somewhere. Here's where zookeeper kicks in: it stores offsets for every group/topic/partition. So this way next time you start your consumer it may ask "hey zookeeper, what's the offset I should start consuming from?". Kafka is actually moving towards being able to store offsets not only in zookeeper, but in other storages as well (for now only zookeeper and kafka offset storages are available and i'm not sure kafka storage is fully implemented).
Regarding load balancing, the amount of messages produced can be quite large to be handled by 1 machine and you'll probably want to add computing power at some point. Lets say you have a topic with 100 partitions and to handle this amount of messages you have 10 machines. There are several questions that arise here actually:
how should these 10 machines divide partitions between each other?
what happens if one of machines die?
what happens if you want to add another machine?
And again, here's where zookeeper kicks in: it tracks all consumers in group and each high level consumer is subscribed for changes in this group. The point is that when a consumer appears or disappears, zookeeper notifies all consumers and triggers rebalance so that they split partitions near-equally (e.g. to balance load). This way it guarantees if one of consumer dies others will continue processing partitions that were owned by this consumer.
With kafka 0.9+ the new Consumer API was introduced. New consumers do not need connection to Zookeeper since group balancing is provided by kafka itself.
You are right, the consumers don't need to connect to ZooKeeper since kafka 0.9 release. They redesigned the api and new consumer client was introduced:
the 0.9 release introduces beta support for the newly redesigned
consumer client. At a high level, the primary difference in the new
consumer is that it removes the distinction between the “high-level”
ZooKeeper-based consumer and the “low-level” SimpleConsumer APIs, and
instead offers a unified consumer API.
and
Finally this completes a series of projects done in the last few years
to fully decouple Kafka clients from Zookeeper, thus entirely removing
the consumer client’s dependency on ZooKeeper.

kafka consumer sessions timing out

We have an application that a consumer reads a message and the thread does a number of things, including database accesses before a message is produced to another topic. The time between consuming and producing the message on the thread can take several minutes. Once message is produced to new topic, a commit is done to indicate we are done with work on the consumer queue message. Auto commit is disabled for this reason.
I'm using the high level consumer and what I'm noticing is that zookeeper and kafka sessions timeout because it is taking too long before we do anything on consumer queue so kafka ends up rebalancing every time the thread goes back to read more from consumer queue and it starts to take a long time before a consumer reads a new message after a while.
I can set zookeeper session timeout very high to not make that a problem but then i have to adjust the rebalance parameters accordingly and kafka won't pickup a new consumer for a while among other side effects.
What are my options to solve this problem? Is there a way to heartbeat to kafka and zookeeper to keep both happy? Do i still have these same issues if i were to use a simple consumer?
It sounds like your problems boil down to relying on the high-level consumer to manage the last-read offset. Using a simple consumer would solve that problem since you control the persistence of that offset. Note that all the high-level consumer commit does is store the last read offset in zookeeper. There's no other action taken and the message you just read is still there in the partition and is readable by other consumers.
With the kafka simple consumer, you have much more control over when and how that offset storage takes place. You can even persist that offset somewhere other than Zookeeper (a data base, for example).
The bad news is that while the simple consumer itself is simpler than the high-level consumer, there's a lot more work you have to do code-wise to make it work. You'll also have to write code to access multiple partitions - something the high-level consumer does quite nicely for you.
I think issue is consumer's poll method trigger consumer's heartbeat request. And when you increase session.timeout. Consumer's heartbeat will not reach to coordinator. Because of this heartbeat skipping, coordinator mark consumer dead. And also consumer rejoining is very slow especially in case of single consumer.
I have faced a similar issue and to solve that I have to change following parameter in consumer config properties
session.timeout.ms=
request.timeout.ms=more than session timeout
Also you have to add following property in server.properties at kafka broker node.
group.max.session.timeout.ms =
You can see the following link for more detail.
http://grokbase.com/t/kafka/users/16324waa50/session-timeout-ms-limit

Simple-Kafka-consumer message delivery duplication

I am trying to implement a simple Producer-->Kafka-->Consumer application in Java. I am able to produce as well as consume the messages successfully, but the problem occurs when I restart the consumer, wherein some of the already consumed messages are again getting picked up by consumer from Kafka (not all messages, but a few of the last consumed messages).
I have set autooffset.reset=largest in my consumer and my autocommit.interval.ms property is set to 1000 milliseconds.
Is this 'redelivery of some already consumed messages' a known problem, or is there any other settings that I am missing here?
Basically, is there a way to ensure none of the previously consumed messages are getting picked up/consumed by the consumer?
Kafka uses Zookeeper to store consumer offsets. Since Zookeeper operations are pretty slow, it's not advisable to commit offset after consumption of every message.
It's possible to add shutdown hook to consumer that will manually commit topic offset before exit. However, this won't help in certain situations (like jvm crash or kill -9). To guard againts that situations, I'd advise implementing custom commit logic that will commit offset locally after processing each message (file or local database), and also commit offset to Zookeeper every 1000ms. Upon consumer startup, both these locations should be queried, and maximum of two values should be used as consumption offset.