I have a program that is being installed using a Deployment Project (Microsoft Visual Studio Installer Projects 2022).
Due to business changes, I need to break this one program up into several new programs. A similar scenario would be like when Apple discontinued iTunes and replaced it with the Music, TV, iBooks, and Photos apps.
When our clients install one of the new programs, the original will still be there, causing confusion about which one they should be using (using the analogy above, you wouldn't want iTunes still hanging around after the new apps were installed). The new projects have a different UpgradeCode from the original, so the installer doesn't recognize it as an older version of the same program (this makes sense) so it does not automatically uninstall it.
Getting the word out to clients that they need to uninstall the old version manually is difficult and unreliable.
Is there any way to add an action to the Deployment Projects for the new programs so that it knows to look for and uninstall the original program as part of the new installation?
To be clear: this isn't about upgrading an existing program. This is about replacing an old program (that has different GUIDs) with an entirely separate program (multiple replacement programs, actually). So the normal mechanism that automatically uninstalls previous versions isn't applicable to this problem.
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I have created a WIX Install MSI file for my Office Outlook Plugin. Everything runs fine however when i uninstall it through add/remove programs everything is removed except for the Plugin in Outlook. It runs but gives errors because the other components are now missing. How can I get it to remove it without going to Outlook and removing the plugin manually?
I have added the "RemoveFolder" tag in the XML which has no effect.
I'm guessing that you are doing some kind of active setup trick to do HKEY_CURRENT_USER registry propogation. I'd suggest not doing this and instead register the extension in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE. This way when the uninstall runs it can access all of the components that need to be removed. There are gotchas in terms of different patch versions of different versions of office and how they behave in terms of supporting per-machine registration of AddIns. Details can be found in blog articles that I've written over the years titled VSTO lessons learned.
We have a large application that has been developed over 15 years and in installed in 200+ client locations. The application currently consists of an Access database and a bunch of executable and report files located on a network share. A Setup.EXE file is run on each client machine (dlls are installed on the client) and then the client machines run the executables directly from the network share. During our upgrade procedure the new executable and report files are copied to the network share and that way each client gets the update immediately.
Our current installation program is very old and, among other things, it doesn't handle x64 so we are in the process of moving to a new deployment tool. At the same time we are migrating client Access databases to SQL Server. I am having difficulty finding a deployment tool to do what we require. Specifically we need the install/upgrade file to do the following:
It must be able to be run from a client machine on a network and copy the new executable and report files to the network share. That share could be a Linux box or a dumb storage device.
Accept a password before running the installation
Allow the user to select the network share as the location to copy the executables
It must NOT add anything to the client machine from where the package is run (Add/Remove Programs, registry, etc.)
Connect to a SQL Server database and run a script
The install/upgrade must be contained in a single, standalone .msi or .exe file. (no dependencies on dlls or frameworks other than those that come with Windows XP)
The file must be able to be run in one simple step. It is the end user that runs the upgrade without our support and without involvement from IT.
It looks like the closest thing to what I need is WiX but the problem there is that whenever the .msi file is run from a client, the client machine thinks that a program is being installed so it allows the client machine to uninstall the product, which is not acceptable.
If the product were written today it would certainly be architected differently but it currently is what it is and we can’t change that. Any help here would be greatly appreciated!
WiX is just a toolset built on top of Windows Installer technology. It makes many things easier and simpler as well as hides lots of Windows Installer weird features... But, it is still limited by Windows Installer, its underlying technology.
Your list of requirements made me think that Windows Installer is not the right technology to choose. I would assume that you'll spend more time on workarounds, than on functional code... But I have no experience with other installation technologies, so I'll leave those recommendations to others.
Situation: I've already written an ActiveX control for my IE users which works perfectly. I build the .ocx, CAB it up, sign it, and put it on the site with an EMBED tag. Users load the page, the yellow bar shows up asking if they want to install it: all they have to do is click it, and we're off.
Now I need to build support for FF, Chrome, and Safari (on Mac). From my research, NPAPI is the way to do this, and Firebreath is supposed to make it easier. But from what I have read, deployment is not so easy. Windows users would have to run "regsvr32" on a DLL (which none of my web users would actually do). I have no idea what would happen on a Mac. I believe the user has to copy it to a directory like /Library/Internet\ Plugins/, which is also a non-starter for deployment. Firefox users would download/run an .xpi. Chrome is supposed to run a .crx.
Does anyone out there have experience with this? How do you do a easy-for-users-to-run deployment of an NPAPI plugin for the other big 3 browsers?
This is a question that is raised a lot by FireBreath users, so it's probably about time I responded in more detail on a forum that is easier to find than the project google group.
First of all, to clear up the regsvr32 thing, FireBreath does indeed support "self registering" for all browsers; that means when you call regsvr32 it installs registry keys not just for IE but also for NPAPI browsers using the methods linked to by DReJ (+1 for that info, btw, thanks. Many don't know where to find it).
However, self-registering DLLs is highly discouraged in the installer world and by Microsoft. There are a lot of reasons for this. You've done a pretty good job of summarizing the other install options in your post; You can use a .cab on IE and a .XPI on firefox, but of course those don't help you on other browsers.
The method recommended by the FireBreath team (which I lead) is to use an MSI installer for all browsers. Personally, I dislike having things work differently on different browsers for an install, so I use javascript to detect the presence (or absence) of the plugin and then prompt the user to download and run the MSI installer.
FireBreath has "built-in" support for building MSI installers with WiX. If you install WiX 3.0 or later on your machine and re-run the prep script it will create a _WiXInstaller project that will build a basic MSI to install your plugin for all browsers as part of the Visual Studio build process. You can modify the .wxs template that will be left in your home directory to customize it.
More info can be found on the FireBreath wiki:
http://www.firebreath.org/display/documentation/WiX+Installer+Help
http://www.firebreath.org/display/~me#iaincollins.com/Potential+Installer+Improvements
If you are really in love with using your .cab installer for IE (I've had problems with them, but some seem to have good luck with them) you can distribute the MSI file inside your CAB and have it run when the CAB is installed. The advantage to this is that when you install the MSI it installs everything for IE, Firefox, Safari, Chrome, and Opera (as well as other browsers which are compatible with the same plugin technologies that those browsers use).
As a quick note, the reason that an MSI is the ideal solution for installing plugins (as opposed to using something that calls DllRegisterServer like regsvr32) is that the MSI is transaction based, so when you uninstall it will always reverse what was put in; that means that you don't have to worry about supporting uninstalling 10 different old installer versions that put things in different places, etc, because the MSI system takes care of uninstalling everything cleanly when you upgrade.
Hope that helps!
For NPAPI plugin you shouldn't run "regsvr32", in Windows you need to write some stuff to the register and on Mac or Linux you need to copy the plugin to specified locations (see "Installing Plug-ins"). I think the easiest way to deploy NPAPI plugin on Windows is to create windows installer that will install both activeX and NPAPI versions of the plugin (for example, you can look how deployment is done for commercial plugins like Unity3D, Roozz or Silverlight). The same is for Mac - just create installer.
I'm not aware of any way to install a plugin from within Safari.
Also, keep in mind that while you may think of the extension-style deployment as easier for users, it's not all that uncommon for Mac users to use more than one browser. If you make them re-install your plugin in each browser they will be confused (since that's not how browser plugins are generally deployed on the Mac) and annoyed. An installer or a manual drag-and-drop installation are the standard ways of deploying plugins on the Mac.
Does anyone know of a good software development framework or similar that has the following properties?
Cross platform: it should be runnable on XP, Vista, OSX and common versions of Linux (such as Ubuntu and Kubuntu).
No installation: Be able to run the software from a USB stick without having to copy anything to the host machine.
Have good GUI support (this is why this question doesn't give a suitable answer, as far as I can tell).
Permissive licensing such as LGPL or BSD or such.
Among the softer requirements are having a set of abstractions for the most common backend functionality, such as sockets, file IO, and so on (There is usually some platform specific adaptations necessary), and supporting a good language such as Python or C++, though it is usually fun to learn a new one (i.e. not perl).
I think possible candidates are Qt 4.5 or above (but IFAIK Qt software will not run on Vista without any installation(?)), some wxWidgets or maybe wxPython solution, perhaps gtkmm. The examples I have found have failed on one or another of the requirements. This does not mean that no such examples exist, it just means that I have not found any. So I was wondering if anyone out there know of any existing solutions to this?
Some clarifications;
By "framework" I mean something like Qt or gtkmm or python with a widget package.
This is about being able to run the finished product on multiple platforms, from a stick, without installation, it is not about having a portable development environment.
It is not a boot stick.
It is ok to have to build the software specifically for the different targets, if necessary.
The use case I am seeing is that you have some software that you rely on (such as project planning, administration of information, analysis tools or similar) that:
does not rely on having an internet connection being available.
is run on different host machines where it is not really ok to install anything.
is moved by a user via a physical medium (such as a USB stick).
is run on different operating systems, such as Windows, Vista, Ubuntu, OSX.
works on the same data on these different hosts (the data can be stored on the host or on the stick).
is not really restricted in how big the bundled framework is (unless it is several gigabytes, which is not really realistic).
It is also ok to have parallel installations on the stick as long as the software behaves the same and can work on the same data when run on the different targets.
A different view on the use case would be that I have five newly installed machines with Vista, XP, OSX, Ubuntu and Kubuntu respectively in front of me. I would like to, without having to install anything new on the machines, be able to run the same software from a single USB stick (meeting the above GUI requirements and so on) on each of these five machines (though, if necessary from different bundles on the stick).
Is this possible?
Edit:
I have experimented a little with a Qt app that uses some widgets and a sqlite database. It was easy to get it to work on an ubuntu dist and on osx. For windows xp and vista I had to copy QtCored4.dll, QtGuid4.dll, QtSqld4.dll and mingwm10.dll to distribution directory (this was debug code) and I copied the qsqlited4.dll to a folder named "sqldrivers" in the distribution directory.
You mention wxWidgets but dismiss it as failing at least one of the requirements.
I don't know what your requirements are and in what way wxWidgets wouldn't work for you, but IMO it does fulfill them:
Cross platform: it should be runnable on XP, Vista, OSX and common versions of Linux.
It does run on those platforms, but "common versions of Linux" isn't good enough, as you can never be sure that the necessary GUI libraries for wxGTK (which should not be linked to statically) will be installed. This is however a problem for other solutions as well, unless you plan to put everything onto the stick.
No installation: Be able to run the software from a USB stick without having to copy anything to the host machine.
See the previous point, you would need to specify which libraries are needed on Linux. Also you could specify at build time not to use some of the system-provided libraries (for example for graphics, compression, regexes) but to use the wxWidgets-internal libraries instead.
Have good GUI support
Check.
Permissive licensing such as LGPL or BSD or such.
Check. You can statically link wxWidgets into your application too.
supporting a good language such as Python or C++
Supports both, and there are bindings to other languages as well.
having a set of abstractions for the most common backend functionality, such as sockets, file IO, and so on
It does have some abstractions like that, but you can link to other cross-platform libraries as well.
We use wxWidgets for FlameRobin, a graphical administration program for the Firebird SQL server. It has active ports to Windows, Linux and Mac OS X, and has been compiled for at least some BSD variant and Solaris as well. It definitely runs from a stick on Windows, I haven't tried with Linux or Mac OS X, but I don't see why it shouldn't there too.
Java.
It has GUI support.
It provides your network/file/etc. abstractions.
It is cross-platform. Most platforms you can think of have a JRE available.
No need to install a JRE. Most users probably already have one, and if not, you can run the appropriate JRE right off the stick.
You can provide several startup scripts for various platforms to run the app under the appropriate JRE.
Something else to consider is HTML+Javascript. :D
You can look at Mono it cross platform, has GUI (GTK+, or Winforms 2.0) and I can execute code without installing.
This might not be crossplatform, but is maybe even better, it dont even use the platform : linux on a stick :-)
The subtitle is
Take your Java workspaces wherever you go on a USB key
Here with java and eclipse, but nothing stops you there of course.
http://knol.google.com/k/inderjeet-singh/installing-a-ubuntu-hardy-heron-java/1j9pj7d01g86i/2#
Well, it depends on what you mean by 'package'. Kylix came close to being such a thing. It was QT based, and it allowed you to write once and compile for Windows + Linux. However, it was not an open source solution.
I asked a similar question in this link
http://www.24hsoftware.com/DevelopersForum/CrossPlatform-C-Library.html
and the best asnswer seems to be QT.
I have started using QT, but it is not as easy as I expected mainly due to deployment problems due to the DLL hell, Winsxs hell and manifest hell.
Tclkit is a single-file, self-contained Tcl/Tk system. The mac version I have is about 3.8 megs. You can get a version for just about any modern OS. I carry around a thumb drive that has mac, windows and linux binaries so I can run my scripts on any platform. No install is required, just copy one file wherever you want.
The most recent versions of tcklit use native, themed widgets (though, on *nix there really isn't a single "native" set of widgets...)
I'm sketching an application deployment process for a bunch of relatively complex desktop applications. We have both native and Java apps, so the deployment must be able to check for existence of the JRE and install it if needed. Some of the apps depend on special hardware, so the deployment must also be able to launch the necessary driver installers. Some of the apps are multiplatform, and preferably the same mechanism should be able to create Windows, Linux and Mac OS X installers. That is:
The installer must be able to install, in addition to the application itself:
Java Runtime Environment.
Drivers (hardware) - that is, launch other installers.
The installer builder must be operable from the command line so that it can be integrated with an automatic build mechanism that generates installer packages for each platform as nightly builds.
In addition, I need to create "update from the web" mechanisms for the applications. It could be included in the installer, or it could also be a separate custom mechanism built into the application.
Now, this is getting a bit complex, and I suspect that there might be no single installer that could do this all. Therefore I'm thinking between two fundamentally different approaches:
Platform-specific mechanisms: NSIS would create .exe or .msi for Windows, XXX would create .deb for Ubuntu, and YYY would create .dmg for OS X.
Cross-platform installer that would handle all the requirements above: ZZZ?
Any recommendations? Some options that I've looked include:
NSIS - Excellent, but Windows only.
IzPack - Good, but requires JVM to run.
Is there an universal tool for this, or should I just pick an appropriate tool separately for each platform? In the latter case, what would be "NSIS equivalents" for Ubuntu and Mac OS X?
I have some recommendations as follows.
Use WIX (Windows Installer XML) for creating MSI installers for Windows
Use Package Maker (part of XCode tools) on MAC OS X, preferably the command line version
Write wrapper scripts (in Python or so) to drive the over-all installer creation process.
to aggregate all the components you need to install (may be from ur version control system)
generate necessary files for Wix and Package Maker as much as possible
to run the packaging tool and generate the package
Make sure that the overall installer creation process is a simple one command operation overall (with options to create different versions of your package based on criteria like release branch etc.)
Overall, developing this workflow requires some initial effort and quite a lot of thinking. But the end result is quite worth the effort.
I haven't done this on the Linux side, but I guess would use RPM/DEB on that front in this workflow.
BitRock InstallBuilder meets all the requirements, including being multiplatform and providing an autoupdate mechanism
You should take a look at InstallJammer. It will definitely handle the cross-platform elements that you want and can even add entries to the DEB and RPM databases on the target system during installation. OS X support is still experimental, but it mostly works.