Probably relating to the SO question MQTT for realtime data streaming, how would the realtime multimedia quality be achieved with MQTT?
This is different from the MQTT defined QoS 0, 1, or 2. In realtime streaming with RTP and RTCP, these extra functionalities are explicitly supported:
Sequencing
Time-stamping and buffering
Rate control
Quality feedback
Though the referenced SO question mentions VoIP are implemented on MQTT, how would the above factors be considered, or just ignored at all?
Edit: As #hardillb mentions below in the answer the "considerations would have to be implemented by application", what protocol the application should follow? Is RTP/RTCP over MQTT a good solution here?
While in the previous answer I said VoIP had been implemented, I didn't say how robust it was.
As can be seen from other answers (Is message order preserved?) message order can be influenced by QOS.
All other considerations would have to be implemented by application using MQTT as it's transport.
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I know all about the streaming protocols and what they are good for. But what confuses me is the protocols the video stream is encoded. Because the encoders use usually RTMP or RTSP protocols and then it is up to the service provider or decoder how the video/stream is delivered (in which protocol: HLS, WebRTC, HDS, MPED-DASH etc).
So it might be a silly question but is there a way to change the encoding protocols from RTMP or RTSP? When I record a video/live-stream with a software. Right now I am using OBS. And my main goal is findign a solution how to stream one-to-many with as low latency as possible (>2s).
Also as far as I know the difference between RTSP and RTMP is one uses iOs and the other Windows OS.
So it might be a silly question but is there a way to change the encoding protocols from RTMP or RTSP? When I record a video/live-stream with a software. Right now I am using OBS. And my main goal is
Yes. There are many (many, many) streaming servers on the market. nginx, red5, wowza, etc.
Also as far as I know the difference between RTSP and RTMP is one uses iOs and the other Windows OS.
No. protocols and operating systems are not related at all. Any OS can utilize any protocol. Web browsers are limited to just a few.
When I record a video/live-stream with a software. Right now I am using OBS. And my main goal is findign a solution how to stream one-to-many with as low latency as possible (>2s).
This is a HUGE question, that really can not be answered on stack overflow. one-to-many; is many 10 or 1000 or 1000000, They are different answers. Does it need to work on web or not (different answers). What does your infrastructure look like, what is your operation budget. Are users located global, or geographically centralized? All this would change the answer. And some of those answer may be that your problem is not practical. for example >2s 100000 users globally on web would be very expensive.
The Real-Time Streaming Protocol (RTSP) Version 1.0 was published as RFC 2326 in 1998.
Now nearly 20 years later Version 2.0 was published as RFC 7826 in December 2016.
I am wondering whether the changes affect the performance of live streaming using RTSP (over the Real-Time Transport Protocol (RTP)).
I know that RTSP is not used to send the real-time data, but used for session establishment and controlling mechanisms like playing, pausing or stoping the stream. So I guess the changes don't have an affect on the end-to-end latency between sender and receiver?
But in the changes it states for example
request pipelining for quick session start-up;
So my question: Is there an measurable impact on the performance regarding the introduced changes?
For example:
session start-up time (time till the stream starts playing)
end-to-end latency
RTSP traffic amount
...
It depends on what your implementation supports today... if you read the news groups associated or even the first few paragraphs of the RFC you will quickly begin to understand this...
In short I believe more than having a measurable impact on performance there are changes which should hopefully create better interoperability however this is as of yet to be seen.
Most of the changes (oddly enough) are for creating and playing archived media and how to cope with such changes in the transport layer as when unsupported bandwidth meets a requested playback rate....
The most useful changes are probably the definition of the text/parameters content type and the Accept header semantics.
Pipelining is now just more widely supported and may have already been supported... IPV6 has not changed... NAT was handled better and UDP support was dropped and another type of TCP transport was supported without frame headers...
Overall though.... there's nothing else which makes Rtsp 2 any better then 1....
The IBM IoT Foundation allows devices to submit events to the IBM cloud for consumption and recording. There appears to be two primary mechanisms to achieve the transmission of events ... MQTT and REST (HTTP POST requests). Assuming that a project will have sensors with direct TCP connectivity to IBM cloud over the Internet, what might we consider as the potential distinctions between the two technologies? What factors would case us to choose MQTT or REST as the technology to use? Are there any substantial performance differences at the final mile at the IBM end that would say that one technology is preferred over another?
MQTT is designed to be a fast and lightweight messaging protocol, and is as a result, faster and more efficient at this than HTTP when used to do the equivalent. More efficient not only means less traffic data and more speed, but sometimes it can mean less electrical power as well. MQTT is particularly good where bandwidth is a concern.
MQTT does, however, need a client implementation (like Paho) which is possibly a rarer thing than an HTTP client implementation, which would be more ubiquitous and therefore more likely/easily available on any given device.
There are also TCP/IP port considerations, where some network hardware may require HTTP ports 80 or 443 (although IoTF supports MQTT and MQTTWS on port 443).
There may also be an ideological or philosophical reason for choosing HTTP instead of MQTT (or COAP for that matter), but usually, I would say the reasons for choosing HTTP instead of MQTT would be network related or client support related.
There is no official paper on the performance differences yet, but safe to say MQTT will be more efficient and faster given just about any messaging scenario (long lived connections or adhoc etc.)
I would summarize the considerations as:
mqtt will support higher throughout and the API is much simpler compared to a REST api
REST API is likely much more readily available on iot devices, BUT this could be changing as mqtt is gaining in popularity and big players like Google Cloud Platform and IBM Bluemix support mqtt in their iot service.
I am designing a TCP/IP based pub/sub system. This is expected to have a high message update rate and also a large number of subscribers.
I was looking at CometD before but we realised that the Bayeux protocols it supports is just JSON on Http. We don't want a Http overhead in this system.
Now i am looking at ZeroMQ for a possible solution. Are there any other such systems out there which have been proven to handle large scale pub/sub over TCPIP?
Update - My publishers are just TCP/IP clients but my subscribers are web browser based widgets. As I understand, ZeroMQ does not have Http support for browser based subscribers. Are there any workarounds for such a case?
You seem to be making contradictory requirements:
You don't want HTTP overhead
Your clients are browser-based widgets
If you can rewrite your clients you might consider a 0MQ to websocket bridge. There are a few floating around, like https://gist.github.com/1051872.
Also, when you explain your requirements, please provide figures. "High message update rate" and "large number of subscribers" means very little. 10/sec? 1M/sec? 50 subscribers? 50,000? Also, it's worth noting the average message size, whether you have to work over public Internet, and any other constraints.
Recently started looking into these AMQP (RabbitMQ, ActiveMQ) and ZeroMQ technologies, being interested in distributed systems/computation. Been Googling and StackOverflow'ing around, couldn't find a definite comparison between the two.
The farthest I got is that the two aren't really comparable, but I want to know the differences. It seems to me ZeroMQ is more decentralized (no message broker playing middle-man handling messages/guarenteering delivery) and as such is faster, but is not meant to be a fully fledged system but something to be handled more programmatically, something like Actors.
AMQP on the other hand seems to be a more fully fledged system, with a central message broker ensuring reliable delivery, but slower than ZeroMQ because of this. However, the central broker creates a single point of failure.
Perhaps a metaphor would be client/server vs. P2P?
Are my findings true? Also, what would be the advantages, disadvantages, or use cases of using one over the other? A comparison of the uses of *MQ vs. something like Akka Actors would be nice as well.
EDIT Did a bit more looking around.. ZeroMQ seems to be the new contender to AMQP, seems to be much faster, only issue would be adoption/implementations?
Here's a fairly detailed comparison of AMQP and 0MQ: http://www.zeromq.org/docs:welcome-from-amqp
Note that 0MQ is also a protocol (ZMTP) with several implementations, and a community.
AMQP is a protocol. ZeroMQ is a messaging library.
AMQP offers flow control and reliable delivery. It defines standard but extensible meta-data for messages (e.g. reply-to, time-to-live, plus any application defined headers). ZeroMQ simply provides message delimitation (i.e. breaking a byte stream up into atomic units), and assumes the properties of the underlying protocol (e.g. TCP) are sufficient or that the application will build extra functionality for flow control, reliability or whatever on top of ZeroMQ.
Although earlier versions of AMQP were defined along client/server lines and therefore required a broker, that is no longer true of AMQP 1.0 which at its core is a symmetric, peer-to-peer protocol. Rules for intermediaries (such as brokers) are layered on top of that. The link from Alexis comparing brokered and brokerless gives a good description of the benefits such intermediaries can offer. AMQP defines the rules for interoperability between different components - clients, 'smart clients', brokers, bridges, routers etc -
such that a system can be composed by selecting the parts that are useful.
In ZeroMQ there are NO MESSAGE QUEUES at all, thus the name. It merely provides a way to use messaging semantics over otherwise ordinary sockets.
AMQP is standard protocol for message queueing which is meant to be used with a message-broker handling all message sends and receives. It has a lot of features which are available because it funnels all message traffic through a broker. This may sound slow, but it is actually quite fast when used inside a data centre where host to host latencies are tiny.
I'm not really sure how to respond to your question, which is comparing a lot of different things... but see this which may help you begin to dig into these issues: http://www.rabbitmq.com/blog/2010/09/22/broker-vs-brokerless/
AMQP (Advanced Message Queuing Protocol) is a standard binary wire level protocol that enables conforming client applications to communicate with conforming messaging middleware brokers. AMQP allows cross platform services/systems between different enterprises or within the enterprise to easily exchange messages between each other regardless of the message broker vendor and platform. There are many brokers that have implemented the AMQP protocol like RabbitMQ, Apache QPid, Apache Apollo etc.
ZeroMQ is a high-performance asynchronous messaging library aimed at use in scalable distributed or concurrent applications. It provides a message queue, but unlike message-oriented middleware, a ØMQ system can run without a dedicated message broker.
Broker-less is a misnomer as compared to message brokers like ActiveMQ, QPid, Kafka for simple wiring.
It is useful and can be applied to hotspots to reduce network hops and hence latency, as we add reliability, store and forward feature and high availability requirements, you probably need a distributed broker service along with a queue for sharing data to support a loose coupling - decoupled in time - this topology and architecture can be implemented using ZeroMQ, you have to consider your use cases and see, if asynchronous messaging is required and if so, where ZeroMQ would fit, it has a good role in solution it appears and a reasonable knowledge of TCP/IP and socket programming would help you appreciate all others like ZeroMQ, AMQP, etc.