Effect of "Data Access Expires" expiration on webhook application - facebook

this question is for Facebook developers especially those who have been using Graph API in their projects. I've set up a webhook application in a client's Facebook account to be able to fetch user comments from the pages they've been managing into the app we made. Our app also has a feature to reply and hide user comments but these features require Page Access Tokens. The tokens that we have generated from the Graph API Explorer have been converted to Long-Lived Tokens in order to not expire. However, upon debugging the access token, the "Data Access Expires" confuses me.
According to their documentation and this guy's post, the scopes listed in the Access Token Info picture I posted should not expire. I asked this question because my use case from the post I've referenced is different, with mine using webhook for pages and no user authentication is involved. Should I still expect that the webhooks and the functionality of replying and hiding user comments are still working should the token I am using has its "Data Access Expires" expire?

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Using Instagram Graph Api with permanent page access token only works for some accounts

I try to fetch some images from an instagram business account through the instagram graph api by means of a permanent page access token (facebook: permanent Page Access Token?). These specific tokens seem to be the only possibility to get permanent access to the graph api for a server-side app.
On the other side I found a hint in the fb documentation that only user accesss tokens can be used to access instagram business accounts.
"Page access tokens are not supported."
https://developers.facebook.com/docs/instagram-api/overview/?locale=en_US
Funny enough I was using page tokens so far without any problems. After resetting the database of my project and generating new tokens I observered that some accounts weren't able to fetch the data while others had no problems.
"Unsupported get request. Object with ID 'XXX' does not exist, cannot be loaded due to missing permissions, or does not support this operation."
I had 2 instagram accounts: 1 was working with page access tokens the other didn't. So, I checked it in the fb graph explorer. Using the user access token I have no problem with both accounts. Using the page access token respectivly for both accounts one is working fine for the query while the other isn't. A third account that I created has the same problem.
Things I tried to resolve the issue:
deleting all permanent page access tokens from my database and generate them again
generate the permanent page access tokens manually by means of the fb graph explorer tool
turn my instagram account back into personal and then again into a business account through the app
turn my instagram account back into personal and then again into a business account through the facebook page
create a new instagram account and a new facebook page to connect (repeating 3. and 4.)
My questions now:
Can I use permanent page access tokens for the instagram graph api?
If not, how do I get permanent server side access to the instagram graph api?
I am now searching the internet and stackoverflow for days and getting crazy because I seem to be the only person experiencing this problem. So, help will be highly appreciated by my fellow developers. Tia.
Since yesterday everything works fine again also when using the permanent page access token. Seems like fb resolved an internal bug. However, the question remains, if page access token can be used in general or if it is just a bug itself.

Is this process correct for maintaining long-lived Facebook Access Tokens when the user may not have access to the FB account?

I am creating a system to allow our clients to create articles and post them in our CMS. The one feature we are being asked to implement is that when an editor publishes an article, that that article gets posted to the company's facebook wall as well.
The tricky part to this is that the people who are allowed to publish articles may not have login credentials to the company's overall FB account. This means that I can't rely on the normal process to retrieve access tokens for accounts (or so it seems).
I did quite a bit of research and came up with the following documentation sources:
http://developers.facebook.com/docs/howtos/login/extending-tokens/
http://developers.facebook.com/docs/howtos/login/server-side-login/
http://developers.facebook.com/docs/concepts/login/login-architecture/
http://developers.facebook.com/roadmap/offline-access-removal/
From these it seems that in order to allow locally authorized users to post to the company's facebook wall I must:
Have a user with valid FB credentials log into an Admin page
Click a button to start the authorization process
Retrieve the short term access token from the FB response and exchange it for a long-lived 60 day token
Store the 60 day token in our database
Each time a user attempts to publish an article, test if the token has expired and if so alert the admin they need to re-authorize.
Is this the only workflow to accomplish this or is there a simpler method, preferably one that does not require the last step.
Use a page token. Get it using a long-lived user access token – then the page token will not expire by default.

Long-lasting FB access-token for server to pull FB page info

I'm aware that there are many questions about Facebook access-tokens and the grief they cause, but despite much experimentation and reading many frustratingly vague blog articles (FB and otherwise), I'm still struggling to get a clear answer to my needs. Let me succinctly break down my process so far:
I am creating a site that, server-side, needs to pull the posts/statuses from a single Facebook Page
I am an admin of that Facebook Page
I have created a Facebook App
Using the Facebook Graph API Explorer, I've generated a short-lived key, connected to my app and my account, that grants permission to my account to view the access-tokens for my pages
I've converted my short-lived key to a long-lived key (60 days) ala scenario 4 from this
And here's where I am stuck. My 60 day key works fine for my server to pull the info needed from the page, but as far I can tell, there's no way to programmatically extend that 60 day key. I also do not know of a way to generate a new short-lived key without manually going to the Facebook Graph API Explorer and creating one.
Since it is my server making the requests to the Facebook API and not a user-based system (where I could easily request that a user authorize the Facebook app again), this creates a very clunky system. Since Facebook deprecated offline_access, is there really no permanent way to have my server pull info from my own page? Will I really have to create a new key by hand and manually update my server with it every 60 days?
Or is there something I'm missing?
Update:
The step-by-step guide that was previously found here has been migrated down into its own answer.
These are the steps that were previously in the question - they have been migrated to this answer.
Having found that it is possible to generate a Facebook Page Access Token that does not expire (with help from #Igy), here is a clear, step-by-step quide for all those looking to the same:
Make sure you are the admin of the FB page you wish to pull info from
Create a FB App (should be with the same user account that is the page admin)
Head over to the Facebook Graph API Explorer
On the top right, select the FB App you created from the "Application" drop down list
Click "Get Access Token"
Make sure you add the manage_pages permission
Convert this short-lived access token into a long-lived one by making this Graph API call:
https://graph.facebook.com/oauth/access_token?client_id=<your FB App ID >&client_secret=<your FB App secret>&grant_type=fb_exchange_token&fb_exchange_token=<your short-lived access token>
Grab the new long-lived access token returned back
Make a Graph API call to see your accounts using the new long-lived access token: https://graph.facebook.com/me/accounts?access_token=<your long-lived access token>
Grab the access_token for the page you'll be pulling info from
Lint the token to see that it is set to Expires: Never!
That should do it. You should now have a Facebook Page Access Token that doesn't expire, unless:
You change your Facebook account password
You lose admin access for the target page
You delete or de-authorize your Facebook App
Any of these will cause the access token to become invalid.
If you are getting (#100) Tried accessing nonexisting field (accounts) on node type (Page), go to the Access Token Debugger, copy the value of User ID, and use it to replace the "me" part of the URL in step 9.
This is covered in the Offline Access deprecation document
Use the 60-day token for the page admin to retrieve a Page Access Token (via /PAGE_ID?fields=access_token or /me/accounts) - the Page access token will not have an expiry time
An approach that works in 2019
I was recently trying to achieve something similar (to the use case described in this thread), but I wanted to make sure to respect Facebook's current policies, so I did a little research and here I'm sharing what I found.
My use case
So, as I said already, my use case is very similar to the one described here; that is:
I'm doing some work for a school district.
They are using a software tool to manage pretty much everything that relates to school transportation.
That tool allows them to send email notifications (to subscribers) when they publish bus delay alerts and school closure alerts.
A lot of people in the community follow the organization on their Facebook page, and that's the only place they look for those alerts.
So an employee of the organization has to manually publish each notification on the Facebook page (in addition to creating it in the transportation software). Moreover, those notifications eventually expire (or are simply deleted before they expire), so the employee has to go back later on to delete them manually as well.
It's a waist of time, so what we are trying to do here is to develop as simple system that periodically polls the software tool's database for new (and expired) notifications and update them (i.e. add and remove) on the Facebook page.
This is, in my view, a legitimate use case, but I wasn't sure how to implement it in a way that's in line with Facebook's policies.
The accepted answer
I followed the steps of the accepted answer and it worked, except that things appear to have changed: now, even though the generated page token does not expire, access to data does expire after around 60 days. You will see that as well if you follow the procedure and inspect the page token in the FB Token Debugger Tool.
Besides, the fact that the generated page tokens are tied to the user account is also unfortunate, because if the user updates his/her password, then the page token also gets invalidated.
How to do it in 2019
After several hours of research, I stumbled upon the following Facebook documentation article: Business Login for Direct Businesses.
It turns out that it is now possible, following the steps described in the above article, to generate a page token that is not associated to any particular Facebook user account and which will not expire (unless the FB App gets deleted or the underlying application token gets deleted, you know...)
So here are the steps and the most important parts:
You need a Business Manager account.
Verification will be required and a digital contract will have to be signed.
You need to add the target Facebook page to that account.
You need to create a Facebook App, and transfer that app to the same Business Manager account as well.
The app will have to go through Facebook's review process, because the following permissions will be needed: manage_pages and publish_pages.
Important note For the posts made using the generate page token to be visible to users other than the application administrators, that app will need to have been published and approved.
You may still experiment with the concept without submitting for review, but the posts won't be publicly visible.
In the Business Manager account (only after your app and page have been added to the account), you need to create what's called a System User, and give that user admin role (or permissions) to the target Facebook page.
A system user is owned by the Business Manager account, and isn't tied to a specific user. My current understanding is that one major use case for a system user is programmatic access to Facebook's Graph API (just what we need).
Then, for that system user, you need to generate a access token (which will be never-expiring). You will be prompted to select for which app. You will then select your target app.
You will then need to use the generated app token to generate a page token, which will also be never-expiring. The procedure is described in this article as:
GET /<PAGE_ID>?fields=access_token&access_token=<SYSTEM_USER_ACCESS_TOKEN>
That's it.
That token will never expire, and it won't be tied to a particular Facebook user, so it's exactly what we need!
The last part is to make sure that your Facebook app gets approved by Facebook. It's in fact the most important part, because the whole procedure is worthless if people don't see our posts.
I wanted to know for sure that I could rely on the above procedure to build something for my client without Facebook rejecting it in the end, so, beforehand (i.e. before starting to work on my client's project), I went through the whole process of creating a page, an app, a Business Manager account, etc. I verified my business. I submitted my app for review. In my request, I was very specific about my use case and emphasized that the app was for "self-use" (i.e. that the organization is developing an app for itself, not for other Facebook users). I got approved without less than 24 hours.
A few other notes about the app review process:
I had to select a platform for the app, so I selected website.
I had to indicate why the app needed the two permissions and how it was going to use them.
I had to indicate why the reviewer would not be able to sign into my app and try it (i.e. because the app will be used by a worker process).
For the mandatory screencasts, I simply presented manual operations in the terminal using the curl utility (to generate the page token and make posts to the Facebook page). I also showed how I was using Business Manager to link the system user to the page and generate a token, and so on.
Again, I was very specific about my use case, and I think that that helped.
I hope this information will be useful to people with similar use cases.
Many thanks to #redhotvengeance for step-by-step guide.
After some time, now there is clearly described in Facebook documentation:
https://developers.facebook.com/docs/facebook-login/access-tokens/expiration-and-extension
Extending Page Access Tokens
Apps can retrieve a page access token from Page admin users when they
authenticate with the manage_pages permission. If the user access
token used to retrieve this page access token is short-lived, the page
access token will also be short-lived.
To get a longer-lived page access token, exchange the User access
token for a long-lived one, as above, and then request the Page access
token. The resulting page access token will not have any expiry time.
You can also copy and past from the app dashboard on facebook.
The steps:
Go to https://developers.facebook.com
Select your app in the top right corner of the page
(pic of what it looks like)
Click on Messenger from the options on the left (it will go to setting automatically) (pic of what it looks like)
Go to the "Token Generation" section in the page. Select what page you want to generate the token for. (pic of what that section looks like)
The copy and past your page token where ever you need it.
Keep in mind that while in theory your token won't expire, that it is directly tied to what ever facebook account your logged into. So say you change your password or you remove the permissions from between your account and your app then your token won't be valid any more.

2 different types of user facebook access tokens?

I have set up a facebook app so people can post stuff from my site directly to facebook using the graph api.
I request offline access and manage_pages so that they don't have to be logged in to facebook, but just to my site.
I also have set up the ability to post to a fan page they are managing directly from the site.
both those things definitely work because i have a fan page and i authorized it on my site and am able to post stuff to it directly from my site.
the problem is that when i send the access token to facebook /accounts?access_token=XXX, nothing is being returned for some users even if they are definitely managing (they sent me a screenshot showing they were the manager of the page)
looking at the access tokens i noticed that mine looks like (this is fake):
200785063253279|561ec27497172e3ddvs32dsc.1-10002342352350235|kB2_OoBtsgscsVW2mKMijfNdvb0
while the users in question have an access token like (again - fake):
AAAC2nOrFTH0BAJjMgS3h22ADhirwsfweRT35235LGcZCGisrefwae5tSF535DGlLKJOIBMnrMnI324sfasdSFOIjo325sIigfWOE1aNbvd8wAZD
I can't help but notice the vast difference between the two. is there a reason? is that why i am not getting any page info when i send the request to facebook?
Any help is appreciated!
The first Access Token is the old access Token format and the second Access token is the new Access token format.
This new format was announced a year ago:
https://developers.facebook.com/blog/post/497/
And rolled out last September:
https://developers.facebook.com/blog/post/2011/09/09/platform-updates--operation-developer-love/
Any new Access tokens you get from the system will be of the new format.

Can I publish to pages with an app access_token

As mentioned in this other question, if a user grants the publish_stream permission, I can publish to that user's wall using an app access_token. I tested that and it works. But I couldn't publish to the user's pages using the app access_token! Am I missing something?
Right now I use the /me/accounts/ connection to get the access_token of the pages, and use that to publish. But this is a huge headache for me and for users because these tokens expire often (when users change their password, ...et), and every time that happens the publish fails and I need to email the user to come login again so I can retrieve a new access_token for the page. It's a bad user experience and I'm trying to find a way around it. The app token works for publishing to users, which is great, but I couldn't find a way to make it work for pages. Any tips?
Edit:
To clarify further, I currently request the manage_pages and offline_access permissions, and then fetch the access_token of each page and use that to publish to it. That works. The main problem is that tokens expire, even with the offline_access permission. The most common reason a token would expire is if the user changes her password. Here is a common error that I get a lot when publishing to Facebook pages.
Facebook error. type: OAuthException, message: 'Error validating
access token: Session does not match current stored session. This may
be because the user changed the password since the time the session
was created or Facebook has changed the session for security reasons.'
To handle this, I email the user and ask them to visit our app again, and when they do I grab a fresh set of access_token to work with. But that's problematic because users are confused about why the error happened and blame us for it, and some users don't open their emails so the problem doesn't get solved and then they're angry later when they discover that our app had stopped weeks ago without them asking it to stop.
That's why I was hoping that I can publish with the app access_token to avoid these problems. Since it works for user profiles, I hoped it would work for pages as well. But so far no luck, unless I'm missing something obvious.
What you're describing used to work - all last year we were able to successfully post to fan page walls using the app access token. In fact, for some of our users, I see it still working. However, I think the other two answers are correct, this is no longer the way to post to pages (see "Page Login" here)
That said, you should be able to store the access token of the page to spare yourself the step of re-querying the users' linked accounts.
Unfortunately, the page's access token will suffer the same fragility as a user's, per the answer here: Facebook Page Access Tokens - Do these expire? . The page access token will expire when the user who gave you that access token changes their password.
To publish to pages, there is an extra step where you use their token to get a list of their pages. Each page has its own token, use that token to post to the page. Keep in mind that when setting up the original token, you need to specify that you need access to pages.
my app does exactly what you're after.
I request both manage_pages and offline_access permissions from a user.
I store the user's access_token.
I ask the user which page (determined by me/accounts) they want a stream item posted to and when.
Later, when it is time to publish to a page's feed, I grab the user's access_token from the database, the pageid, and the message.
Using that user's access token, I query the me/accounts and grab the latest access token for that account (aka page)
Using that page's access token, I me/feed (or is it me/posts...away from my codebase at the moment) post the stream item.